[USMA:54164] Re: NBC News

2014-07-16 Thread Phil Chernack
Different Brian Williams. The Brian Williams on NBC was born in Elmira, NY and grew up in Middletown, NJ. During the Vancouver Olympics, he did a skit with the Canadian Brian Williams From Wikipedia, On February 22, 2010, while providing coverage of the Winter Olympics, Williams did a

[USMA:53855] Re: MG

2014-05-22 Thread Phil Chernack
As in other words…Don’t get nibbled to death by ducks! I believe I posted something similar a few years ago. I also think it was Howard who championed my thoughts back then. I am doing so for Howard now. Phil From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf

[USMA:53726] RE: Strange coke can

2014-04-17 Thread Phil Chernack
Howard, That looks like the size of an imperial pint (568.26 ml). Phil From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf Of Ressel, Howard R (DOT) Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 8:42 AM To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:53725] Strange coke can New

[USMA:52506] Re: NASA metric

2013-03-13 Thread Phil Chernack
I believe that is the APing of the Washington Post rather than NASA. If you go to NASA's site, they use dual. Phil On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 9:00 AM, a-bruie...@lycos.com a-bruie...@lycos.comwrote: So much for nasa and Metric, just read an article on the Rover Couriosity, here is a viewing a

[USMA:52211] RE: current status of the Hawaii metric bill, H.B. 36

2013-01-22 Thread Phil Chernack
It would be nice if the bill made mention of the fact that Congress has already declared SI to be the preferred system of measurement for the U.S. Also, it would be nice if there was a mention of highway signs and gasoline sales. Phil On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 4:31 AM, derryod...@yahoo.com wrote:

[USMA:51352] Re: Imperial versus metric: just pick one

2011-12-07 Thread Phil Chernack
The U.S. signed the treaty in 1875 but the Senate did not ratify it until 1878. The U.S. is considered one of the original signatories to the treaty. On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 7:37 AM, John M. Steele jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.netwrote: A pretty good commentary on the mess of duality in Canada.

[USMA:51129] Re: New coke size

2011-09-22 Thread Phil Chernack
Acutally, it has very little to do with confusing the consumer and everything to do with gaining shelf space in the supermarket. A supermarket (can be a corp. chain, co-op or franchise) will only dedicate so much space to a particular size of a product. As the manufacturers have paid the

[USMA:49672] RE: A mole hill into Himalaya

2011-01-29 Thread Phil Chernack
The reality is that English standards are set by publishers and broadcasters. What people refer to as the King's English is in reality, the BBC's English. It is also recognized that British English and American English are distinct language groups with many regional dialects present in both.

[USMA:49552] Re: Metric System Thriving

2011-01-18 Thread Phil Chernack
Pat, You have posted this before. Why do you keep posting items from The Onion? You realize that it is a satiracal site. While indeed they can write some very funny articles (they have a new sports show starting on Comedy Central here) you can't take any of it seriously. Phil On Tue, Jan 18,

[USMA:49202] Re: centimetre or millimetre

2010-12-14 Thread Phil Chernack
I'm just getting a little confused on what all the fuss is about. Here is the way I see it: Metric conversion: the process of converting non-metric measures to metric ones. Metrication: the process of changing the primary measuring methodology within a nation or society to SI. This can

[USMA:48291] Re: Gold density

2010-08-01 Thread Phil Chernack
; Bill Hooper, Ph.D.; Carleton MacDonald; John Schweisthal; Derek Pollard; Ezra Steinberg; Harry B Wyeth; Stanislav Jakuba; Jason Darfus; James R. Frysinger, LCAMS; Eric Burns; Eugene (Gene) Mechtly; Michael Payne; Richard Messer; Brij Bhushan Vij; Nat Hager III; Phil Chernack; Pierre Abbat; Patrick

[USMA:46905] Re: Standards for Math and English

2010-03-10 Thread Phil Chernack
There was no announcement of new standards, just a proposal by the National Governers' Association to push for unified national standards. While Texas and Alaska have already opted out of such a proposal, the other 48 states have not necessarilly signed on.

[USMA:46831] Fwd: Re: Rick Sanchez Admits He Doesn't Know What Nine Meters Is | NewsBusters.org

2010-03-04 Thread Phil Chernack
-- Forwarded message -- From: Phil Chernack pcchern...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [USMA:46830] Re: Rick Sanchez Admits He Doesn't Know What Nine Meters Is | NewsBusters.org To: ezra.steinb...@comcast.net For those who missed my first post

[USMA:46809] The Daily Show segment w/Rick Sanchez of CNN

2010-03-02 Thread Phil Chernack
Pretty funny. Wait for Jon Stewart's retort to 9 meters, what's that in English? http://www.hulu.com/watch/131441/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-the-uninformant#s-p2-sr-i1 Then, the Moment of Zen: The metric system is English

[USMA:46414] Re: Stonecutters song

2010-01-15 Thread Phil Chernack
I guess you don't watch The Simpsons. This song is from one of my favorite episodes (my father happens to be a Freemason). If you are not familiar (and I can't see how you wouldn't be after 20 years :) ) the show is very tounge-in-cheek and satirical about myths, pop culture and American society

[USMA:45615] Re: Hawaii metric

2009-08-13 Thread Phil Chernack
Well, seeing as Hawaii was a territory prior to statehood since 1898 I think the answer is obvious. On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 11:39 AM, John Frewen-Lord j...@frewston.plus.comwrote: I have often wondered what measurement system was used in Hawaii before it became a US State in the early 1960s.

[USMA:45311] RE: Independence Day

2009-07-05 Thread Phil Chernack
Actually, the resolution (as proposed by Richard Henry Lee of Virginia) was passed on the 2nd. John Hancock signed the Declaration on the 4th and the rest of the congress signed it by the 2nd of August. Phil On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Bill Potts w...@wfpconsulting.com wrote: Ah, but did

[USMA:45164] Re: NASA Going English

2009-06-01 Thread Phil Chernack
I think that NASA did not do a good job of explaining what is really going on here. The case is simple: they are reusing the Apollo technology to accelerate this program. Apollo, as you know was done in customary measurement. To start to reengineer all of that data and design work to SI would

[USMA:45007] Re: The true state of the USMA list......

2009-05-03 Thread Phil Chernack
I'm not one for writing much anymore but when I do contribute, I'd like to think that what I have to say is cogent and impactful. Quite a while back, I wrote a thread about being nibbled to death by ducks. The whole point of that thread was this list was becoming bogged down with such minutiae

[USMA:43085] Re: consumer education on the metric system

2009-02-19 Thread Phil Chernack
Well, I pose this one: Does the avarage consumer know and understand the differences and relationships between ounces, pints, quarts and gallons? Many times I see unit pricing in quarts but the items being sold have no mention of quarts on them. They are either fl oz, mL or L. It seems to me

[USMA:42416] DTV Transition Delay

2009-01-23 Thread Phil Chernack
Looks like Congress, with the President's urging may delay yet again the full transition to digital television. http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gFQTV6u7aQ_ujqqX5bFP5QPRIVgAD95SJ1K09 When I see things like this, it doesn't bode well for a full metric transition. It seems

[USMA:42047] Re: Metric system invention

2008-11-25 Thread Phil Chernack
Actually, I would go with the Please read before quoting us in court page: http://watleyreview.com/About.html Phil On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Nat Hager III [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Again Watley Review is a complete satire (like the Onion), see the following history:

[USMA:41815] Re: Mystery writer plugs CGPM

2008-10-08 Thread Phil Chernack
Just watch the show Bones on Weds. at 8pm. (FOX). The show is based on the series of books and the main character (Temperance Brennen) works at the Jeffersonian in DC (a fictional Smithsonian-type of institution) where she solves crimes with her FBI partner Seely Booth. The show is a lot of fun

[USMA:41816] Re: Mystery writer plugs CGPM

2008-10-08 Thread Phil Chernack
Oh, and for those who don't get FOX or have the show available on your local outlet, you can watch it at www.hulu.com. It's free. Phil On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Phil Chernack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just watch the show Bones on Weds. at 8pm. (FOX). The show is based on the series

[USMA:41600] Re: NBC

2008-08-18 Thread Phil Chernack
Of course you could have sent it to UBS and like the immortal Howard Beale, open our windows and shout I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore! After all, it it not how we all feel about this :) (for those of you who don't remember, it's from the movie Network) Phil On Sat, Aug

[USMA:41379] Re: Energy calculation

2008-07-10 Thread Phil Chernack
Pat, I think your measurements are a bit off. I believe you mean GJ not MG for the amount of energy from a barrel of oil. Average dietary (or at least recommended intake in the U.S.) is 2000 kcal or about 6.8 MJ per day. Also, when it comes to cost, you are confusing energy with work. The

[USMA:41381] Re: Energy calculation

2008-07-10 Thread Phil Chernack
. Jim Phil Chernack wrote: Pat, I think your measurements are a bit off. I believe you mean GJ not MG for the amount of energy from a barrel of oil. Average dietary (or at least recommended intake in the U.S.) is 2000 kcal or about 6.8 MJ per day. Also, when it comes to cost, you

[USMA:41323] Re: US considering changing speed limits again

2008-07-04 Thread Phil Chernack
Don't count on it happening. The time, expense and lack of popular support will not let the speed limit be lowered. If anything, the law enforcement community may even be against it as it would require far more resources to enforce. It's not 1974 anymore and people just won't go for it. Phil

[USMA:41295] Fwd: Re: New milk jug size shape

2008-07-01 Thread Phil Chernack
Forgot to send to list when I replied :) -- Forwarded message -- From: Phil Chernack [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [USMA:41294] Re: New milk jug size shape To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The jug has a capacity of 4 liters with a fill of 1 gallon (3.78

[USMA:41296] Re: Hydrogen fuel for autos sold by the kilogram

2008-07-01 Thread Phil Chernack
As far as I can tell, hydrogen has always be dispensed by the kg. Even the president made mention of it in a State of the Union address a few years back. When fuel cell cars become more widespread, I can't see any other unit being used to dispense hydrogen. Phil On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 12:45

[USMA:41015] Re: Legality of selling fuel by the liter in the US

2008-06-02 Thread Phil Chernack
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Phil Chernack *Sent:* Friday, 2008 May 30 11:56 *To:* U.S. Metric Association *Subject:* [USMA:41004] Re: Legality of selling fuel by the liter in the US I can't say for every state but in New Jersey it is legal to sell and dispense

[USMA:41016] Re: Legality of selling fuel by the liter in the US

2008-06-02 Thread Phil Chernack
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Phil Chernack *Sent:* Friday, 2008 May 30 11:56 *To:* U.S. Metric Association *Subject:* [USMA:41004] Re: Legality of selling fuel by the liter in the US I can't say for every state but in New Jersey it is legal to sell and dispense

[USMA:41004] Re: Legality of selling fuel by the liter in the US

2008-05-30 Thread Phil Chernack
I can't say for every state but in New Jersey it is legal to sell and dispense by the liter provided both the price per liter and price per gallon are displayed. On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Mike Millet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just curious here , as I've been readying a lot about how some

[USMA:40988] Re: dry pints of tomatoes

2008-05-27 Thread Phil Chernack
Where do you get that it is illegal to sell by the dry pint? Produce is not covered by the FPLA, It is up to states to determine how produce is measured. Keep in mind that most laws governing the sale of dairy and produce go back 100 or so years. In some cases, these laws have been updated.

[USMA:40030] Re: Finishing metrication in Australia

2008-01-12 Thread Phil Chernack
I think we are confusing several issues here. The problem with Subway is not a labeling issue rather a marketing one. It seems that Pat's main point of contention is that after years of Australians getting used to seeing metric measures in common day places, Subway comes in and, through its

[USMA:38567] RE: Water measures

2007-05-01 Thread Phil Chernack
Gee Pat, I guess they all are dressed in polyester and dancing to disco too. That article was from 1979. Phil _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pat Naughtin Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 1:35 PM To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:38566] Water

[USMA:38413] Re: OT: date format

2007-04-05 Thread Phil Chernack
Stephen, By the way, I visited America (Florida) for my holidays a month after that tragic date and wherever I went as soon as people knew that my girlfriend and I were British we were warmly congratulated and almost thanked for coming to the US! I had never felt so welcome. It was odd the

[USMA:38404] Re: OT: date format

2007-04-04 Thread Phil Chernack
I have always written dates in dd mmm yy format ie: 4 Apr 07 on checks and other correspondence. Of course, the date on a check does not matter anyway. It will get paid when presented. I use ISO when putting the date in computer files such as 20070403.txt. Never has anyone questioned the way I

[USMA:38314] RE: Brand New Phone, 12 Hour Time.

2007-03-22 Thread Phil Chernack
First off, my cell phone (a Nokia) is set to 24 hour time no problem. My previous phone, a Motorola was also set to 24 hour time. I'm just a little confused about the purpose of this thread though. My reasons for advocating metric in the U.S. is to help us be more competitive and save

[USMA:38244] RE: Brand New Phone, 12 Hour Time.

2007-03-16 Thread Phil Chernack
To All, If you are really interested on why we have all these standards for cell phones, American Heritage Invention Technology magazine had a great article on the development of mobile phone technology since the 1940s You can find it here:

[USMA:38103] Re: Bob Woodruff on Jon Stewart

2007-03-07 Thread Phil Chernack
Keep in mind that The Daily Show is first and foremost, a comedy show. Jon Stewart is usually being facetious, especially when parodying the average joe. His comments should be taken as nothing more than that. Phil _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

[USMA:38046] Re: metric-length subs

2007-02-26 Thread Phil Chernack
Hmmm. Sandwiches provide an interesting quandary. Every sub shop I have been to offers some variation of the following: 6 (nominally 15 cm) or 1/2 sub 12 (nominally 30 cm) or whole sub 3 foot (1 m) (smaller party size) 6 foot (2 m) (larger party size) Once again, this is one area where 6 inch

[USMA:37842] RE: piecemeal metrication

2007-01-23 Thread Phil Chernack
Actually, I would hazard to guess that most manufacturers are either doing metric or capable of doing metric, even though they are producing non-metric sized products. A good example is Entenmann's, who produce 1 lb cakes but in the plant, refer to them as 454 g. I know this from a segment I

[USMA:37826] RE: possible first post on Clinton blog

2007-01-21 Thread Phil Chernack
It may be useful to point out that 47 states already permit metric-only labeling for products that come under their jurisdiction. Phil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Trusten, R.Ph. Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 12:23 PM To:

[USMA:37771] Re: metric conversion

2007-01-17 Thread Phil Chernack
It seems to be a matter of semantics. When one is talking of comparing one type of unit to another, it is conversion. Metric to USC conversion, USC to metric conversion. When one is talking of transitioning the way of measuring it is metrication. From the NIST website: The Metric Program seeks

[USMA:37755] Re: Car Talk Puzzler

2007-01-16 Thread Phil Chernack
Of course the width of tires is measured in mm. P225R17 tires are passenger rated with a width of 225 mm and a diameter 0f 17. Phil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Ressel Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 12:25 PM To: U.S.

[USMA:37404] Re: Losing the battle by inches | Chicago Tribune

2006-10-21 Thread Phil Chernack
You are correct that the rule of 1000 should apply but I have not seen it on bottled water.  I drink Poland Springs and the bottles are labeled .5 liter with the wrapping stating ½ liter bottles.  My guess is that the marketing folks seem to think that most people will recognize and

[USMA:37239] RE: 24-hour time format

2006-08-31 Thread Phil Chernack
Go to Brookstone (www.brookstone.com or a mall near you.) You'll find plenty of options there. They have a nice assortment of 12/24 hour format clocks both battery operated and cord powered. The ones that display temperature can be set for Celsius as well. If you don't like their selection,

[USMA:37227] RE: Bounty paper towels

2006-08-18 Thread Phil Chernack
That commercial has been airing for quite awhile. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of King, Mark D. Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 10:55 AM To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:37226] Bounty paper towels I recently saw a Bounty

[USMA:37217] Re: Ambiguous ounces used on TSA web-site.

2006-08-16 Thread Phil Chernack
Except when dealing with the general public. Then they have leeway. Phil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David King Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 9:36 AM To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:37213] Re: Ambiguous ounces

[USMA:37198] Re: metric road signs

2006-08-07 Thread Phil Chernack
It's a non-issue. If Puerto Rico becomes the 51st state, it will not matter what they post on their roads. Both metric and non-metric signs and speed limits are legal in all states as per federal law. Phil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

[USMA:37177] RE: a glass of water

2006-07-31 Thread Phil Chernack
Message Follows From: Phil Chernack [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: U.S. Metric Association usma@colostate.edu Subject: [USMA:37162] RE: a glass of water Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 18:46:05 -0400 Truth of the fact is that you should have around 2 L of fluid per day

[USMA:37162] RE: a glass of water

2006-07-27 Thread Phil Chernack
Truth of the fact is that you should have around 2 L of fluid per day. It is, as you say a guideline. The fluid can come in whatever form you want from your morning cup of coffee to the afternoon bottle of water. Glasses generally refers to around 250 mL. Phil -Original Message-

[USMA:36978] Re: Mile markers and metric conversion

2006-06-24 Thread Phil Chernack
You have to remember that in a majority of states, exit numbers are based on the mile markers.  For example, exit 52 is between mile 52 and 53.  The biggest problem is that not only would mile markers be changed but exit numbers would also have to be changed.  Some states like PA, FL and

[USMA:36968] RE: Seasonal unit

2006-06-22 Thread Phil Chernack
Han, You make a huge assumption that people know or even care about BTU vs. kJ. The truth is people just compare the numbers. A 9000 BTU/h is smaller than a 15000 BTU/h air conditioner and that is all that matters. You don't have to know what a BTU is to understand difference in quantity. What

[USMA:36958] RE: Seasonal unit

2006-06-20 Thread Phil Chernack
I think you used the word mandate where you meant to use permit. You will never see metric labeling mandated in the U.S. Phil From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Millet Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 4:38 PM To: U.S. Metric Association Subject:

[USMA:36961] RE: Seasonal unit

2006-06-20 Thread Phil Chernack
Seems like a simplistic view of things. From what I see, corporations, especially those that operate globally, are for metrication and metric labeling. Companies like PG have publicly stated so. The opposition seems to be from the food marketing industry which represents many smaller

[USMA:36916] Re: Body Worlds II

2006-06-07 Thread Phil Chernack
Yet if they dont take the steps to present information in SI, how can we make any concrete progress towards SI? Its got to start somewhere. Phil From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Millet Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 8:37 PM To: U.S.

[USMA:36870] Re: Wyeth footage

2006-05-29 Thread Phil Chernack
I still dial the phone as I'm sure many of you do too. I haven't actually dialed a phone in years. I don't see the terms footage, mileage or acreage disappearing anytime soon. Maybe eventually some will be replaced--land area for acreage, fuel economy for mileage, etc but even as we move to

[USMA:36740] RE: Jade: I didn't know how long a mile was!

2006-05-10 Thread Phil Chernack
I bet if you asked how many feet are in a mile, most would respond 5280. It tends to be a trivia question. At least it is in the US. Most people here know about 100 yards as it is the length of a (American) football field. Most do not know how many yards are in a mile. Phil -Original

[USMA:36711] Re: Countering the heritage argument.

2006-04-30 Thread Phil Chernack
I believe that chow mein was actually invented in Chinatown in San Francisco. Phil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Hooper Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 7:47 PM To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:36710] Re: Countering the

[USMA:36682] RE: sea transport and metrication

2006-04-29 Thread Phil Chernack
The idea of using watts to express power on ships was explained in a previous thread. Ships use electric engines powered by a generator. The generator is powered by the diesel engines on the ship. Therefore, power is going to be expressed in terms of the electric engines and thus, watts.

[USMA:36658] RE: Kiloliters

2006-04-26 Thread Phil Chernack
I'm actually quite used to hearing liters used for dry measure or capacity such as trunk space or basket size. It sure beats bushels which I never really understood anyway. Phil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Gallagher Sent:

[USMA:36577] Kiloliters

2006-04-17 Thread Phil Chernack
I came across the following article on oil prices and saw the term kiloliter for the first time.  Is this very common outside the U.S.? “Oil for September delivery rose 1 percent Monday to €49.32 a kiloliter, or $66.29 a barrel. “ “The October gasoline contract climbed 2.1 percent to

[USMA:36582] Re: metric stands alone

2006-04-17 Thread Phil Chernack
You hit it right on the head when you said it would be thoroughly confusing to calculate fuel economy. The only way to make it logical at this point is to give fuel economy in terms of liters per mile. While certainly not desirable, it might be an interim step prior to converting road

[USMA:36584] Re: metric stands alone

2006-04-17 Thread Phil Chernack
they could. Mike On 4/17/06, Phil Chernack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You hit it right on the head when you said it would be thoroughly confusing to calculate fuel economy. The only way to make it logical at this point is to give fuel economy in terms of liters per mile. While certainly not desirable

[USMA:36549] Re: the preferred system

2006-04-13 Thread Phil Chernack
Why do people keep insisting that Americans dont understand or know metric measures. If prodded, most Americans will admit they know how long a meter is, how much a liter is and even how much a gram weighs. I would hazard to guess that most Americans know meters and millimeters more so

[USMA:36552] Re: the preferred system

2006-04-13 Thread Phil Chernack
: Thursday, April 13, 2006 11:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: USMA Subject: Re: [USMA:36549] Re: the preferred system Phil Chernack wrote: Why do people keep insisting that Americans dont understand or know metric measures. If prodded, most Americans will admit they know how long

[USMA:36530] Re: Contractors resisting metrication (was April 1)

2006-04-10 Thread Phil Chernack
Mike, You should tell your father that metrication does not mean the items he uses such as sheetrock or 2x4s will change. The sizes will remain the same but the labeling will change. Its just a matter of getting used to the new labels and different spacing. All you need to do is refer

[USMA:36489] Re: Contractors resisting metrication (was April 1)

2006-04-07 Thread Phil Chernack
There is no such thing as a federal highway. All highways (interstate, US and state) are state highways built and paid for by the individual states. States receive federal funding for various projects and highway construction but the highways are all state built, owned and maintained.

[USMA:36495] Re: Contractors resisting metrication (was April 1)

2006-04-07 Thread Phil Chernack
There are what are called Federal Aid Roads but these include any road that a state or local government receives money for to build or maintain. Just because a road is an interstate or US highway does not make it a federal highway. All interstate numbered, US numbered and state numbered highways

[USMA:36276] RE: FMI Show 2006

2006-03-17 Thread Phil Chernack
This makes me curious. Is there an institutional prejudice towards metric at the FMI or is it a few well-placed individuals who are arbitrarily making these decisions based on their own misunderstandings? It seems that many of their members are in favor of the amendment. Does the FMI do

[USMA:36290] RE: File attachments (we need a rule!)

2006-03-17 Thread Phil Chernack
The only problem with that is that it still does not stop the email from going onto the receiving server. The person's remote mailbox will still have the email in it thus, generating a possible warning from your email provider. Phil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[USMA:36242] Re: FW: Re: Metric vs. imperial comments from Australia

2006-03-10 Thread Phil Chernack
Your answer to that silly article about the metric system causing obesity in Australia was the way to go. Would the obesity problem not exist if a country used the BTU for nutritional energy one might ask. And the irony.. 1 BTU can be taken as 1 kJ in most cases, except where accuracy is

[USMA:36198] RE: Australia; shipping containers

2006-03-06 Thread Phil Chernack
The Newark Star-Ledger just published a story on the 50th anniversary of the container: http://www.nj.com/business/ledger/index.ssf?/base/business-2/114153971628060 .xmlcoll=1. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Philip S Hall Sent:

[USMA:36109] RE: Fw:BBC E-mail: Call for metric road sign switch

2006-02-24 Thread Phil Chernack
This, in a country that has a hang up over pints in a pub. I still don't get that. Anyway, the reason people may be so resistant to road sign changes is that it is a huge change all at once. Unlike the introduction of metric sizes in the marketplace which can take place gradually, people

[USMA:35986] Re: Diet Coke packaging changed

2006-02-05 Thread Phil Chernack
Decisions on bottle sizing are made by the local bottlers. Some of these bottlers are indeed owned by the company itself (through a separate division) but each bottler makes the sizing decisions for their market. For instance, Coca Cola Bottling of New York which serves the New York-New

[USMA:35972] RE: Video Podcast - Request for feedback.

2006-02-04 Thread Phil Chernack
While metric education is very important and I do believe that we could save tons of money by emphasizing metric education and eliminating customary unit education, I have to agree with Jon about the complexity of education. From what I have read, American students are either ahead or the same as

[USMA:35889] RE: NEW Yard (yd') or Metre New (m') and decimal time

2006-01-27 Thread Phil Chernack
And as you all know, we should all mind our ps and qs. Or is it 473 ml and 946 ml? J From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Hooper Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 4:43 PM To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:35888] RE: NEW Yard (yd') or Metre

[USMA:35850] RE: Downsizing to rounded SI sizes?

2006-01-25 Thread Phil Chernack
Was there a change in price? If not, it is just a way to raise the price without increasing the actual price. While its nice that they are going to a rational metric size, it is a cheap way of doing so. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John

[USMA:35745] Re: decimal time

2006-01-19 Thread Phil Chernack
With all due respect you haven't grasped the key point here. The statement 1 yd = 0.9144 m is not just a conversion factor. It is a *definition* of the term yard. It is interesting to note that not only is a yard defined as 0.9144 m but the inch is not defined as 1/36 of a yard but as 25.4

[USMA:35722] Re: decimal time

2006-01-17 Thread Phil Chernack
And who is in charge of their foreign affairs and defense? Sounds like a confederation of sorts if you ask me. Kinda like the time when 13 of Britain's colonies banded together and formed a new country. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

[USMA:35558] Re: Product of Germany

2006-01-04 Thread Phil Chernack
I think you are confusing 2 issues. One is the package size which is regulated by the FPLA or at the state level (UPLR) and the nutritional information. Your link refers to the latter of the two while the OP was discussing the former. As far as I know only 3 states at this time seem to not

[USMA:35431] RE: Typical Canadian usage

2005-12-19 Thread Phil Chernack
I think Dave is American, so maybe the Canadian fellow was simply translating meters to yards for Dave's sake because he assumed Dave would have no clue what the distance in meters would mean. Why do we keep assuming that others think Americans have no clue what metric is? If you went to

[USMA:35332] RE: counting gigasecond in JD

2005-12-05 Thread Phil Chernack
Title: counting gigasecond in JD Thats fine and dandy, but remember the stardate is -318271.23 J At least they used metric on Star Trek, even on the original series from 1966 to 1969. Phil From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ronald L. STONE

[USMA:35308] RE: Numerical codes for measuring units?

2005-12-02 Thread Phil Chernack
As someone who worked for a frozen food manufacturer and administered the UCC/EDI program, I can tell you that the code is simple. The first 5 digits are the manufacturer's code and the second 5 digits are the manufacturer's internal product number. The manufacturer's code is assigned by the

[USMA:35292] RE: Masons?

2005-11-29 Thread Phil Chernack
Actually, Matt Groening hasn't been involved with the show other than executive produce it since its inception. All he did is create the characters and perhaps give some of the early story ideas. The show has had a staff of writers that have included Conan O'Brien and Dana Gould. There have

[USMA:35289] RE: Masons?

2005-11-28 Thread Phil Chernack
Actually, its the Stonecutters and its from The Simpsons. It is the song they sing in their meeting. Its one of my favorite episodes. BTW, in the episode, Abe Grampa Simpson mentions he is a member of the Stonecutters, Elks, Masons, etc. The Stonecutters are not the Masons. J Here are

[USMA:35244] RE: liberia and myanmar

2005-11-19 Thread Phil Chernack
I'm not sure about Liberia or Myanmar, but the United States is officially metric. What we do not do here is predominately use metric in daily activities. Metric has made inroads over the years but still has quite a way to go. For more info about metric in the U.S., visit here:

[USMA:35248] Re: liberia and myanmar

2005-11-19 Thread Phil Chernack
I don't believe there was any formal survey done. The information that is quoted is actually about 40 years old. It was included in the report A Metric America: A Decision Whose Time Has Come which was originally published in 1968 I believe. The report was published by the Department of

[USMA:35158] Re: Government conversion mandates

2005-11-04 Thread Phil Chernack
While the feds cannot mandate metrication, they can make it very difficult to do business otherwise. For instance, if Congress made metric the only official system (as permitted under the constitution) the government could refuse to do business in non-metric measures. NIST could refuse to

[USMA:35166] RE: constitutional basis for metrication (was Government conversion mandate)

2005-11-04 Thread Phil Chernack
Paul, By virtue of the 14th amendment, all amendments (as well as the constitution itself) apply to the states as well as the Feds. I had that one beaten into me in high school history class :) Phil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

[USMA:35169] RE: constitutional basis for metrication (was Government conversion mandate)

2005-11-04 Thread Phil Chernack
. Section 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation. - Original Message - From: Phil Chernack [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: U.S. Metric Association usma@colostate.edu Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 12:29 Subject: [USMA:35166] RE: constitutional basis

[USMA:35173] Re: Government conversion mandates

2005-11-04 Thread Phil Chernack
Jim, et al, The answer to the question of what jurisdiction's laws would apply is that it would be clearly stated in the contract. All contracts have a clause stating which jurisdiction's laws apply for disputes regarding said contract. Phil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[USMA:35022] Re: The pitfalls of double conversion.

2005-10-27 Thread Phil Chernack
What exactly is full metrication? It is the stated position of the U.S. government to make SI the predominant or preferred system of measurement but not the exclusive one. I don't think the U.S. (or U.K., Canada, etc) will ever be 100% metric for all endeavors. I don't think that it is

[USMA:34621] Re: spelling

2005-09-24 Thread Phil Chernack
Lowering the bar? Are you implying that because we spell er rather re we are somehow lower than those who spell the other way? So you are saying that one way of spelling is better than the other rather than just different? You really have no clue about the English language or its evolution.

[USMA:34593] Re: One way to metricate the USA

2005-09-21 Thread Phil Chernack
After all, who needs traffic lights at a roundabout? (Mind you, I have seen that combination in New Jersey so perhaps that would be the best solution all round (no pun intended)). What you are talking about in NJ are traffic circles. They are very different from roundabouts. Traffic circles

[USMA:34577] Re: FW: What is stopping metrication? (Was spelling)

2005-09-20 Thread Phil Chernack
I pretty much agree with this, excepting only that I did not realize signs wear out. I would presume that aside from obsolescense and damage (getting hit by a car), they would last for two decades or more. Jim Elwell Signs do indeed wear out. Signs are required to meet certain

[USMA:34574] Re: hospital inpatient computer system eliminates non-metric units

2005-09-19 Thread Phil Chernack
Title: Re: [USMA:34525] Re: hospital inpatient computer system eliminates non-metric units Its funny that dosing cups, tubes or whatever are not included with prescriptions while over the counter products like NyQuil (the sneezy, stuffy, scratchy, sleep on the kitchen floor medicine) comes

[USMA:34573] Re: FW: What is stopping metrication? (Was spelling)

2005-09-19 Thread Phil Chernack
Jim, This is why changing the FPLA is so important. It is one way to push metrication forward with virtually no imposed cost on business. Businesses may voluntarily change their labeling and decide when their business and customer base is ready. All the amendment does is remove an impediment to

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