http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/6609860
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Have you guys seen these videos?
http://m.weeklystandard.com/blogs/feds-spend-38k-metric-system-superhero-cartoons_817152.html
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You will enjoy this piece of trivia I ran across. Today, October 14, is World
Standards Day honoring the efforts of people who develop standards for various
industries. However, the United States celebrates World Standards Day on
October 23 rather than October 14, which is somewhat
http://science.howstuffworks.com/why-us-not-on-metric-system.htm?mkcpgn=fb6utm_source=facebook.comutm_medium=socialutm_campaign=hswaccount
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From The New York Times:
Not Giving an Inch
Most of the world is on the metric system; why isn’t America?
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/24/books/review/whatever-happened-to-the-metric-system-by-john-bemelmans-marciano.html
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http://www.redlandsdailyfacts.com/lifestyle/20140809/he-wont-touch-issue-with-3048-meter-pole
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FYI – Interview with Kai Ryssdal, host of public radio’s Marketplace program,
regarding John Bemelmans Marciano’s new book on U.S. Metrication. Hear the
full interview in the audio player.
Wasn't the US going to start using the metric system?
NPR's Marketplace, August 5, 2014
http
http://m.us.wsj.com/articles/book-review-whatever-happened-to-the-metric-system-by-john-bemelmans-marciano-1406927564?mobile=y
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http://www.vox.com/2014/5/29/5758542/time-for-the-US-to-use-the-metric-system
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These are great examples. Perhaps, USMA should contact the BBC writer to add
medical miscalculations to the list!
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-27509559
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http://www.radioaustralia.net.au/international/radio/program/pacific-beat/samoa-to-adopt-metric-system/1287602
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I saw this story on the BBC News iPhone App and thought you should see it:
US plans sweeping food label changes
First Lady Michelle Obama is to unveil plans for the most sweeping overhaul of
nutrition labels on US food packages in more than two decades.
Read more:
http://m.fleetowner.com/technology/fleet-genius-pro-management-software-now-supports-metric-system
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Blogs 1 new result for metric system
The Esperanto of Science: The Metric System - Weekly Hubris
Sterling Eisiminger
The advantages of the metric system were further clarified to me when my
father-in-law and I built a desk. I was accustomed to the American weights
Weekly Hubris
which, btw, he is completely wrong about
from a brain development perspective.
Here is the last sentence of the article:
The world is moving fast. There's not much use for cursive writing anymore.
Let's let it go the way of instruction in the metric system.
How has the U.S become so
: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf
Of Martin Vlietstra
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2013 4:44 AM
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:52836] RE: metric.org domain name
As a non-USMA ember (though UKMA member), sounds a good idea, but if
everything is migrated
the
mistakes made trying to build in metric units.
A related example, I am friends with a sand control engineer who works on
oil rigs. It is an international company. They attempted to bring metric
tankers to the US. The oil workers made so many mistakes on the rig that the
company decided
So choose to live your life in metric if you want, and thank you
To me the above quote says it all. They consider this a preference issue, like
should I wear a red shirt today or a blue shirt? They do not understand the
negative impact in education and overall national competitiveness
http://www.retrieverweekly.com/news/umbc-pilots-shift-to-metric-system-1.301
7677#.UVrXuxzvtqU
Anti metric article
http://www.thepacker.com/opinion/fresh-talk-blog/199057461.html
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and if so, do we have a FPLA group?
Note: As a response to the statement that most American’s do not understand
metric units and would be confused during consumption transactions. This is
probably a true statement today; however, the new Common Core Standards in
Mathematics and the Next
agenda
(http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/policies/international/cooperating-governments/usa/jobs-growth/files/agenda-stakeholders-hlrc-10-04-2013_en.pdf).
At this time, we do not anticipate that metric labeling will be raised. Only
one trade association has brought up packaging and labeling
What does that even mean?
http://www.edenprairienews.com/news/schools/place-nd-in-science-fair/article
_87a09f4c-1e80-5c7f-be4a-cba909ec64be.html
He is based in Mississippi!
http://www.sunherald.com/2013/02/28/4498933/the-metric-system-makes-better.h
tml#disqus_thread
Hey Mark,
I think you might be mistaken about EU interest in metric-only labeling. I
suggest you contact Elizabeth Gentry at NIST to discuss this topic. I
believe the EU has not given up and the US has promised to make
demonstrated progress towards metric-only labels or maybe even full
Maybe partner with our friends at the UK Metric Association
(http://ukma.org.uk). Any move by the US towards metrication benefits them
as well. And the UKMA may have helpful EU contacts... just a thought, Mark.
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reddit.com/r/metric
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 8:53 AM, John M. Steele
jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.netwrote:
I guess the metric one was just in time. I read in the news today that
the threshold has been raised to 100 000.
It apparently only applies to new petitions. The article was not clear on
whether
Dear Sir:
Justin Scheck correctly points out that efforts to convert the United States
to the metric system have faced significant cultural resistance over the
past four decades (Cooking a Poundcake in a Metric Oven Is No Easy Task,
Nov. 24). Although metric system devotees are often
you think they will
transition to SI units within the next 10 years?
The campaign's goal is to encourage the Next Generation Science Standards
(NGSS) to take the official position that Science should be taught only in
its professional language- the metric system.
My draft slogan (open
Nagarajan
http://www.metricrules.org/ Metric Rules
Metric Only STEM Education in the USA
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Thank you so much for responding! I am not a unit expert; therefore, please
forgive me if my understands are incorrect.
What would a 3-D model of a metric cube, going from very small to very large
look like? And would not other aspects of the cube (like length, water mass)
also have
for
English-to-metric conversions that involve everyday things so that they
might recognize a miscalculation. Even though today's college freshmen have
been learning about the metric system since they were in elementary school,
some still struggle with these calculations.
If I am not mistaken all
Speculates that Track and field is relatively unpopular in the U.S., maybe
because its feats are measured in a way that is meaningless to most
Americans.
http://www.npr.org/2012/08/12/158658876/hard-lessons-at-the-olympics-like-th
e-metric-system?ft=1
http://www.npr.org/2012/08/12/158658876
of STEM instruction and STEM knowledge and why
the practice of dual-measurement instruction is an inefficient use of
limited class time. I know that measurement is only a piece of the education
puzzle but how big of a piece?
Bridget Nagarajan
Metric Rules http://www.metricrules.org/
Metric
You've got most of the ones I use when I teach people about metric, so they
have benchmarks from which to visualize without converting to antiquated
units.
I most often use:
- 1 kg = the mass of 1 L of water
- 1 g = approximate mass of a paper clip
- 2.5 g = exact mass of a US penny
I wonder if, upon US adoption of SI, whether tonne'd be used over current
pref metric ton since short ton wouldn't exist
Bridget Nagarajan
http://www.metricrules.org/ Metric Rules
Metric Only STEM Education in the USA
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Hi:
Does anyone know or think they know how any of the Republican or
other candidates feel about metric conversion?
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Since the Kelvin is not designated as a degree anymore, can it be used with
multiples and submultipes like all other units? Ex: kilokelvin
I think that this was the intention of the BIPM when they removed the appelative
degree.
Adrian
--
I am sorry but I could not follow the discussion on the listserv over the FPLA forum.
I consulted Jim's web page and of course the USMA page but found no reference on the
outcome of the forum.
Could anyone tell me what happened and if we can expect any changes in the FPLA
anytime soon?
Adrian
Joseph B. Reid wrote:
Terry Simpson wrote in USMA 23655:
Pat Naughtin wrote:
I'm beginning to see the word 'metrics' from time to time.
The word 'metric' and the plural are used in America quite a
lot for this purpose. The British tend to use the word
'measure' in similar circumstances
James R. Frysinger wrote:
Your help is invited in gleaning what we can here.
Thanks. See also:
The NRC proposed rule identifies a number of issues where the U.S.
regulations would have to be modified to conform with the international
IAEA standards including adopting the metric system in the NRC
This website shows a police mugshot using metric and non-metric scales
for body height:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/stonecoldmug1.html
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Phone: +44 7850 511794
Han Maenen wrote:
Ice is sold in metric containers in metric countries,
Here is an article about packaging by the UK based Ice Cream Alliance:
http://www.ice-cream.org/magazine/packaging.htm
Here is a UK retailers range:
http://www.mackies.co.uk/ouricecream/organic.html
This so-called
This website shows a police mugshot using metric and non-metric scales
for body height:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/stonecoldmug1.html
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Human Factors Consultant
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Phone: +44 7850 511794
Pat Naughtin wrote:
I'm beginning to see the word 'metrics' from time to time.
The word 'metric' and the plural are used in America quite a lot for
this purpose. The British tend to use the word 'measure' in similar
circumstances.
Quote from BATF website:
http://frwebgate3.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/waisgate.cgi?WAISdocID=23708625
762+3+0+0WAISaction=retrieve
[begin quote]
[Code of Federal Regulations]
[Title 27, Volume 1]
[Revised as of April 1, 2002]
From the U.S. Government Printing Office via GPO Access
[CITE:
meant by
limit rather than target.
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf
Of Gene Mechtly
Sent: 23 November 2002 16:29
To: U.S. Metric
The country code for Ireland is 353 and is incorrectly split in the
article. I also noticed the mismatch between input mass and output mass.
Oven temperature:
Irish ovens are almost certainly celsius or gas mark number. The figure
of 500 degrees is clearly the American author's Fahrenheit
I was talking to a friend about his new Audi
diesel car (diesel Audis are not available in the US),
which he bought because of the superior power and fuel economy.
He volunteered that his new wheels has so-and-so caballos.
Do you know the model number?
The official Audi website for Spain is:
After a little research, here is what I discovered with UK beer bottles
and cans.
Sizes:
The 568 ml (UK pint) size is very rare.
Labels:
All labels had metric units (in accordance with the UK law). Some (but
not all) of the 568 ml sizes included the word 'pint' on the label.
Labels on all other
If metric only labelling is permitted, will the law for beer also be
changed?
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I found the following definition of an inch:
1 inch = 2.4 cm
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q189826
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John Nichols wrote:
Presumably Newton's apple had a weight of
one newton
[...]
play as it contacted Newton's head.
[...]
So assuming that it feel 1 metre
You have to first assume that:
1. It was an apple. Some versions merely say 'fruit'.
2. That the fruit struck anyone on it's downward
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From that page came this most interesting paragraph:
Yes I saw that. It is a strange paragraph. I couldn't decide whether to
cheer or boo.
Kilopascal wrote:
Maybe SI is the official measurement system in heaven.
All those unbelievers in the holy trinity (the holy metre, the holy
litre,
and the holy kilogram)
Surely you mean 'second' instead of 'litre'.
Kilopascal wrote:
NET WT 11.0 OZ 311.9 g
I find it very difficult to believe that they are able to be
package this product to such a precise weight.
Nominal quantity is a legal lower threshold, not a legal target. Any
precision is therefore self-imposed by the manufacturer.
Harry Wyeth wrote:
For those of us not living next a Spanish-speaking country,
this seems to be continental Spanish for US-style horsepower.
Same in the rest of = Europe?
UK regulations are in kW
UK specifications quote one or more of the following three units: kW,
bhp, PS
Kilopascal wrote:
I find it very difficult to believe that they are able to be
package this product to such a precise weight.
Package contents can be less than nominal.
The US term is 'maximum allowable variation' (MAV). See table 2-5 in:
http://ts.nist.gov/ts/htdocs/230/235/h133/appena.pdf
Kilopascal wrote:
Can anyone in Europe check out these products and let us know
how they are packaged. What is the size declaration on the label?
I saw mm's in the following nominal sizes in the UK:
45g
125g
250g
Thanks to all that have sent comments.
Some of you may already have seen the applied corrections and
improvements that you suggested.
Feel free to send a note anytime.
Sincerely,
Gregory Peterson
Saskatoon SK Canada
URL: http://members.shaw.ca/metric/
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Joseph B. Reid wrote:
I am asking for the bibliographic reference of your statement. I was
unable to find it in the www posting that you mentioned,
You will find the quote if you search for the phrase 'NIST wrote' in:
http://www.ftc.gov/os/statutes/fpla/basis_jan1994.html
Thanks to some extra spare time (and three hour naps by my 11 month old
son) the One Metre web site (formerly Metric in Canada) has received
a well earned retrofit.
I'm inviting USMA listserv members to take a look and provide any
constructive criticism.
Please send your ideas to:
Gregory
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Too bad they couldn't send me the UK book, though I wonder if
that also converts cups to ounces only.
A UK manual is unlikely to mention cups at all. I have seen cups on UK
measuring equipment in the past but I don't believe anyone uses them.
UK recipes give weight
The FPLA contains the expression: 'SI metric liters'
Liters are not an SI unit. That three word expression could have been
simplified to just the one word: 'liters'.
Search on 'si metric liters' in:
http://www.ftc.gov/os/statutes/fpla/part500.htm
You mean you haven't see fuel consumption rated in dekalitres
per megameter (daL/Mm)? g
(Actually, I'm trying to decide whether or not that would
be an improvement over L/100 km.
I think my preference, though, would be for L/Mm.)
The Honda Accord would then be rated at 98 L/Mm.
You could also
Joseph B. Reid wrote:
The only relevant statement in that document is:
[...]
I am confused. Does that mean that the position of the NIST (quoted
again below) is not relevant?
[begin quote}
NIST wrote that it is confusing and redundant: a) to use the term SI
metric system because it implies
Oops. Thanks for spotting that and correcting me.
But it all resolves to m2 or cm2 doesn't it?
Bill Potts wrote:
I don't think even the space shuttle uses fuel at that rate.
98 cubic meters per kilometer? Whew!
I guess you mean 98 cm^3/km.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Honda Accord would
February 20, 2001
http://sse.jpl.nasa.gov/whatsnew/pr/010307A.html
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Caltech manages NASA JPL.
I discovered the following Caltech powerpoint presentation. It contains
a few software tips for dual unit environments that I thought were
interesting.
http://www.cs.caltech.edu/courses/cs1/lectures/Day11.pdf
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Human Factors Consultant
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James R. Frysinger wrote:
A short time ago you published a link to the NASA Metric Directive and
now to the IG's report following the MCO disaster. Those are both
excellent documents to read. Links to those were posted here a few
years
ago but I'm sure that most people have since lost them
it that way because it is
recorded that way.
A frequent justification for inch-pound only is that they won't expose
people to metric until people are familiar with it. People won't be
familiar until they are exposed to it. That is why dual units are used
to break the cycle.
James, I would like to reassure you that I read your posting and
appreciate that you are familiar with the details of the IG report.
I do not believe that this came across in my last posting. Lest it be
thought that I am 'write-only', please note that I do enjoy reading and
learning from postings
Joseph B. Reid wrote:
any intelligent reader of the SI brochure would have
no difficulty in distinguishing SI from metric units
that are now obsolete. These units are listed in Tables 9 and 10.
I clearly have difficulty.
Are you saying that all units listed in table 9 and 10 are obsolete?
2002 20:16
To: U.S. Metric Association
Cc: Curtin Radio
Subject: [USMA:23358] Re: metric = SI
Dear Mike and All,
I suspect that the real culprit here is the Bureau of Meteorology who
are
providing data to the radio station that is too precise. Maybe you
could
check with the Perth office
http://nodis3.gsfc.nasa.gov/library/displayDir.cfm?Internal_ID=N_PD_8010
_002C_page_name=main
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Phone: +44 7850 511794
Blank out a bit more. Try:
nodis3.gsfc.nasa.gov
and drill down to:
NPD 8010.2C
or simply copy the nasa reference code into a web search tool.
Use of the Metric System of Measurement in NASA Programs
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A search of the autocad website reveals references to both terms
('imperial' and 'english').
Kilopascal wrote:
AutoCAD use the terms English or Metric.
John Nichols wrote:
Autocad calls it the Imperial System.
The US government is not consistent in the terms that it uses. The term
'inch-pound' appears to be common in the top level documents.
Federal standard 376B 1993 = 'inch-pound'.
Metric conversion act 1975 as amended to 1988 = 'English system'
Omnibus trade and competitiveness act = 'traditional
as I could repair an old
CGS user interface or update it to the current version of the metric
system.
My clients would throw me out of the door if I tried to give them
history lessons. They pay me to tell them what applies today and cite
usable references for their engineers. Since modern form
Ma Be wrote:
the stereotype 'English' is not appropriate
(since not all 'English'-speaking peoples use it!).
Indeed. It makes no sense as a reference to the language 'English' or to
the country 'England'.
English speaking people in England do not use the US pint.
If it is a reference to US
Joseph B. Reid wrote:
Terry Simpson wrote in USMA 23314:
[begin quote}
NIST wrote that it is confusing and redundant: a) to use the term SI
metric system because it implies that there are metric systems other
than the International System of Units (SI),
[end quote]
http://www.ftc.gov/os/statutes
Johnathan McClure wrote:
Why is the phrase metric used more than SI?
The term 'metric' is easier to say and has been around for longer.
SI is the set of scientific standards, which includes everything
from lux to webers, while metric is the system used
by the general public, and deals
Nat Hager III wrote:
Reaffirmation as of September 2002. Linked and attached.
www.dot.ca.gov/hq/oppd/design/m092702.pdf
Great!
Unlike the FPLA, the Caltrans text is written by somebody who
understands what they are talking about.
Pat Naughtin wrote:
It seems to me that the letters A to D, DD, and E to F
refer to a graded method of volume measurement
It may seem that way but it isn't the case. They are measures of length
and can be expressed as inches or mm.
Wouldn't the whole range be simpler if the volume of
each cup
publications use the term 'inch-pound'. I am
comfortable with that.
The term 'inch/pound' is less satisfactory because 'metric/inch-pound'
is clearer in meaning than 'metric/inch/pound'.
FHWA will use dual units with the SI value first followed by the
inch-pound value in parentheses
http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/programadmin/contracts/staopt.htm
SI units to be given first, with the corresponding non-SI units
following in parentheses
http://www.lbl.gov/Workplace/RPM/R1.23.html
metric
will cite the SI before the inch-pound.
Good. That was what I was hoping to read. I hope this is not
controversial and will be accepted easily.
The FPLA will still allow either to be listed first.
I fully understand. I was not challenging this.
I now have further comments:
1. Hard metric
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The term 'fps' (foot-pound-second') was what I was
taught
Now that you mention it, so was I.
'ifp' is almost meaningless, containing two units for
one quantity.
Good point.
Joseph B. Reid wrote:
Please quote the text where NIST equated metric and SI.
[begin quote}
NIST wrote that it is confusing and redundant: a) to use the term SI
metric system because it implies that there are metric systems other
than the International System of Units (SI),
[end quote]
http
Joseph B. Reid wrote:
I call the old American system inch-pound
I have been thinking about this. The term 'inch-pound' seems to be
uniquely American.
I wonder if this is because there is more than one 'foot' in the USA so
it is not possible to have an unambiguous system name involving 'foot'.
I would think a 2 sig-fig limit would be good practice
in FPLA rounding requirements.
The FPLA says that you 'should' use 2 sig-figs for quantities below 100
g.
[begin quote]
The SI metric quantity declaration should be shown in three digits
except where the quantity is below 100 grams
I notice that the examples used in the FPLA are truncated rather than
rounded. This is presumably because of the 'largest quantity applies'
rule.
[begin quote]
1 lb (453 g) not 1 lb (453.592 g)
[end quote]
http://www.ftc.gov/os/statutes/fpla/part500.htm
A jar of jam/honey/marmalade in the UK
Pat Naughtin wrote:
One boy insisted that Sunday was day 1. The poor boy was subjected
to ridicule (an early example of tyranny of the popular vote
Your reference to the 'tyranny of the popular vote'
reminded me of Chapter 8 of Robert J Prechter's,
'Wave Principle of Human Social Behaviour:
As
, the UK regulation for unit pricing of wine is 'per
750 ml'. This matches the normal bottle size, of course.
why they were going to the extra trouble of converting something
that is wholly metric to obsolete units.
Indeed.
selling imported goods from Poland, Russia, Germany etc. These
were not large scale imports and the retailers were what Americans call
'Mom and Pop' I believe.
Many products had metric-only labels and therefore may have been
illegal. This trade will be made legal by the FPLA amendment, although
. The US version relates font height to
label size but the UK version relates it to the quantity of product.
The UK version is metric by default e.g. minimum figure height 2 mm.
The US version is by default non-metric e.g. Not less than 1/16 inch
(1.5 mm) in height.
Nat Hager III
This may have inadvertently provided incentive for the
over-precise rounding in SI declarations.
The FPLA mandated 'not more than' 2 decimal places, then it became 'not
more than' 3 decimal places. Now it is: 'should be' 3 significant
figures.
Thus I 'should' write '454 g' but I
of legacy regulations
with amendments of amendments. Some products have controlled sizes and
some do not.
Most, but not all, imperial regulation sizes were soft converted to
metric units e.g. 454 g. Size ranges were then either hard metricated,
or had hard metric values interleaved into the range.
Thus
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