Dear Bill,

Sorry about that. I am in the midst of changing computers. It may be that I
inadvertently sent it twice ­ but this was entirely unintentional.

Cheers,

Pat Naughtin LCAMS
Geelong, Australia

on 2003-06-12 19.08, Bill Potts at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Pat:
> 
> Your message, below, appears to be an exact duplicate of your USMA: 26025.
> 
> Bill Potts, CMS
> Roseville, CA
> http://metric1.org [SI Navigator]
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Pat Naughtin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 00:54
>> To: Bill Potts; U.S. Metric Association
>> Subject: Re: [USMA:26021] RE: my German friend never heard of SI
>> 
>> 
>> Dear Bill and All,
>> 
>> I have followed your discussion in support of a rigorous definition of the
>> word, acronym, and I can see the distinctions that you are making.
>> 
>> However, I have always understood that the designers of Le Système
>> International d'Unités alway intended that the letters SI should
>> be a symbol
>> for Le Système International d'Unités as it is a symbol for The
>> International System of Units.
>> 
>> In this sense the word 'symbol' was intended in its algebraic sense. I
>> believe that the designers of SI were deeply impressed by their success in
>> forming an algebraically sound system of units that was profoundly
>> coherent..
>> 
>> They were not about to let the name for this system be either an
>> 'abbreviation' or an 'acronym'; it had to be a symbol in the same
>> sense that
>> the symbol for metres per second (m/s) is made up of the three symbols
>> metres, m division, /, and seconds, s.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Pat Naughtin
>> Geelong Australia
>> 
>> Pat Naughtin is the editor of the online newsletter, 'Metrication matters'.
>> You can subscribe by sending an email containing the word subscribe to
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 
>> on 2003-06-12 12.54, Bill Potts at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>>> A definitive description of what an acronym is and is not is in
>> the New York
>>> Public Library Desk Reference. Here it is:
>>>> Acronyms are pronounceable formations made by combining the
>> initial letters
>>>> or syllables of a string of words. Some abbreviations look like
>> acronyms, but
>>>> are listed as abbreviations because they are not pronounced as
>> words, for
>>>> example, CIA (usually pronounced "C-I-A") and DAR (usually pronounced
>>>> "D-A-R"). A few acronyms may be pronounced either as words ("REM") or as
>>>> abbreviations ("R-E-M").
>>> So, unless SI is usually pronounced as "si" (see) or "sigh," it
>> is simply an
>>> abbreviation. "S-I" (ess eye) puts it squarely in the
>> abbreviation category.
>>> 
>>> Incidentally, I wear several hats (figurative ones), of which
>> one is that of
>>> professional writer (two published books, many papers and presentations,
>>> several articles, and a number of manuals, seminars and
>> courses), so I've been
>>> around this particular block (the acronym argument) quite a few times.
>>> Bill Potts, CMS
>>> Roseville, CA
>>> http://metric1.org [SI Navigator]
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
>>> Norman & Nancy Werling
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 19:00
>>> To: U.S. Metric Association
>>> Subject: [USMA:26020] RE: my German friend never heard of SI
>>> 
>> Re: Acronyms
>> 
>> My Webster's New World Dictionary, Second College Edition, latest © in
> 1976
>> says that radar is an example of an acronym, "radio detecting and ranging"
> (ra
>> d a r).  Until I got interested in this acronym debate, I certainly did
> not
>> kknow that about the word 'radar'.
>> 
>> BTW, I pronounce "SI" as "ess eye".
>> 
>> Norm
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> To: U.S. Metric Association <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 21:44
>>> Subject: [USMA:26019] RE: my German friend never heard of SI
>>> 
>>> In a message dated 2003-06-11 20:40:43 Eastern Daylight Time,
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>>> 
>>>> *acronym* A word formed by the combining of initial letters of a series
>>>> of words or syllables and letters of a series of words or a compound
> term.
>>>> Funk &Wagnalls Dictionary, International Edition.
>>>> 
>>>> In my opinion, the two-character "symbol" *SI* may be correctly called
>>>> an "acronym" or an "abbreviation."
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> The word usually has to be pronounceable as such to be a true acronym.
> The
>>> New York City Transit Authority had a subsidiary formed when they took
> over
>>> the Fifth Avenue Coach Lines in 1962 called the Manhattan And Bronx
> Surface
>>> Transit Operating Authority; New Yorkers actually pronounced the word
> made
>>> from the initials of this.
>>> 
>>> cm
>>> 
> 

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