A lot of pages and sites about dates in general and ISO 8601,
Han
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[2002-Feb-01]
The ISO 8601 listings on the Open
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Nat
Just perused these sites, and I cannot find one e-mail address to the
sports announcers. If someone can locate an address or addresses, please
post to the group. Thanks!
Gene Mechtly wrote:
James Freysinger wrote in USMA 17885:
Joseph B. Reid wrote:
James Freysinger wrote in USMA 17873:
My Webster's Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary gives 1892
as the date it [micron] was first used and interestingly it was one
year later
that the Mendenhall Order was published.
Had a little fun purchasing an HP deskjet printer yesterday. I needed the
cheapest thing for home, since most of the time I just read things off the
screen anyway. A friend advised me to go one step up, and get a model with a
larger print cartridge so I'm not constantly paying for new print
Joseph B. Reid wrote:
James Freysinger wrote in USMA 17885:
Joseph B. Reid wrote:
James Freysinger wrote in USMA 17873:
My Webster's Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary gives 1892
as the date it [micron] was first used and interestingly it was one
year later
that the
2002-02-03
I wonder how many of the luddites out there would refer to these as 1 and 2
ounces. I know 50 mL is not 2 ounces exactly, but to the luddites, it
doesn't matter. Just like Alcoholic beverages. The common FFU names don't
equal the SI sizes either.
Did the salesman have the urge to
Did the salesman have the urge to call them by something in FFU?
No. I was the buyer and he was the seller. Money talks.
I have isolated myself from FFU, and don't know it.
I'm fairly isolated too. Between the physics courses I occassionally teach
(where textbooks are all metric),
kilopascal wrote:
Sometimes I will rub salt into the wound by inferring that those who claim
to know FFU really don't and only parrot the unit names.
A classic WOMBAT instance of this is the teaspoonful or the tablespoonful..
God knows what the parents of America use to measure their
2002-02-03
Paul,
Last Tuesday, our parent company's insurance Manager came to visit us and to
discuss changes to our insurance policy. The letter sent out ahead of time
listed a variety of reasons why our insurance costs have increased 60 % over
the past year and why all our co-payments and
Dear All,
I'm not too sure my question has its place on this list but I would like to
know how the Indians of America used to measure, dimensions, wood, land ...
before the European came into America ?
Anyone could help me ?
Best regards from Paris and many thanks
Marie-Ange Cotteret
At 01:51 PM 2/2/2002 +1100, Pat Naughtin wrote:
Could you elaborate on the 'financial benefit (s) in a reasonable time' that
were relevant to your particular business.
I wish I could answer this with lots of wonderful pro-metrication
ammunition, but I cannot. In fact, I have been asked on a
If someone uses a teaspoon or tablespoon andoverdoses, then the pharmacist is responsible for the error.
That would be an historic legal case, John, as to who is at fault in such
an incident, and I'm sure the plaintiff would sue both the pharmacist and
the doctor. The persistence of
Bonjour, Marie-Ange!
I have done a small amount of research into Native American astronomy
and during that I encountered no indications of how quantities were
specified. I suspect that they either did not bother to be very
quantitative or that this is hard for us to find since their languages
2002-02-03
I should have been more elaborate. What I meant to
say is if the pharmacist's directions call for a "teaspoon", and the person
administering the drug uses the wrong sized teaspoon causing a mis-dosage, the
pharmacist can be held responsible. By being vague, the pharmacist puts
Those correspond, respectively, to the English amount and quantity, as I
have always understood them.
Grandeur (and, presumably, grootheid) can also be translated as size
(although an almost equally common French term for size is taille).
I guess the precise (or literal) French translation of
Dear Jim and All,
To add to Jim's scholarship on the matter of micron (mikron or mikrom?).
I looked up my 1971 edition of 'The Compact Edition of the Oxford English
Dictionary On Historical Principles'.
It had two relevant entries 'mikrom' and 'micron, mikron'
Mikrom
1898 Lord Kelvin
You'll find a lot of material in :
Histoire universelle des chiffres (1994)
de Georges Ifrah
or in english :
The Universal History of Numbers : From Prehistory to
the Invention of the Computer -- Georges Ifrah, et al;
Hardcover
* The Universal History of Computing: From the Abacus
to
Dear Jim, Joe, and All,
I am resending this message as I have just noted that Lord Kelvin's
suggestion of changing the spelling of mikron to mikrom includes a reference
to 'Langley, fourteen years ago', which implies a creation date for mikron
of about 1884.
Who was Langley? I imagine that the
Dear Paul and All,
Yes, I'm sure that it has been done many times using many different names. I
based my Jadic parody on one based on a Burgeson ( Jeremy W. Burgeson), but
Smoot sounds nice too.
Independently, and some time earlier, some of my friends mocked me (and my
metric interests) in the
Pat Naughtin wrote:
Dear Jim and All,
To add to Jim's scholarship on the matter of micron (mikron or mikrom?).
I looked up my 1971 edition of 'The Compact Edition of the Oxford English
Dictionary On Historical Principles'.
It had two relevant entries 'mikrom' and 'micron, mikron'
John, you're obviously a very intelligent fellow, but once again, we are polarizing
Metric (and SI) into an issue of US patriotism vs. anti-Americanism.
How we handle the Argentine economic crisiis,
*if* we should we handle it,
and, indeed, the USA's politcal track record overall are not
The USMA Newsleter (now Metric Today) was A4 size until the 1980 Nov-Dec issue,
which was 8-1/2 x 11. No explanation was given...
It's *not* a small issue to me...
If we can't lead by example, we're hypocrites.
If we use 216x279mm paper i/o ISO-A4, we're playing the same you first game as
2002-02-03
About a week ago,I reported some findings on the use
of metric in Texas. Also, I mentioned about my neighbour who works at Ford
Motor company and claims metric is not used there.
Pat Naughtin responded about metric in the auto plants in
Australia. But, I want to know from
Hi, John,
I'm resubscribed now, probably in honor of the Patriots (can't look!!),
the other lost cause. Just came back to see how SI was doing, and, now
being a Texan,
Paul,
Speaking of lost causes, maybe you've just had a good lesson in keeping
the faith.
g
Nat
Sun 22.05 ET
Pat Naughtin asked in USMA 17873:
I am resending this message as I have just noted that Lord Kelvin's
suggestion of changing the spelling of mikron to mikrom includes a reference
to 'Langley, fourteen years ago', which implies a creation date for mikron
of about 1884.
Who was Langley? I imagine
Vectorsnrasterss wrote in USMA 17909:
John, you're obviously a very intelligent fellow, but once again, we are
polarizing Metric (and SI) into an issue of US patriotism vs.
anti-Americanism.
How we handle the Argentine economic crisiis,
*if* we should we handle it,
and, indeed, the USA's
This is not the first time I have attempted to explain my position, which
involves using ifp every now and then.
I simply think that when I am a guest in another country I have to respect
the customs of the people living there, even if that is FFU or ifp. Secondly
I do not believe that
Although Ireland is supposed to be a metric country, fallen snow is still
measured in inches and windspeeds are still measured in miles per hour. See
below,
Han
Further wind and rain on the way today
By Declan Fahy, Elaine Keogh and Anne Lucey
Further strong winds and widespread rain are
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