Believe it or not, this was discussion on a railroad-oriented list, with
Norman (from Toronto) making an offhand comment about me favoring Celsius,
and it started a whole round of discussion. These are non-metric-oriented
people yet even they see the need to get the conversion done.
Carleton
reports in the paper and they are all
metric.
How does one live for almost 30 years surrounded by metric and pretend
it doesn't exist?
Euric
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Carleton MacDonald
Sent: Friday, 2003-11-14 21:15
To: U.S
Joseph Reid wrote:
My take on the situation is that the centimetre is so close to the inch
that people brought up on inch/pound have a tendency to convert
centimetre-measurements into inches, whereas millimetre-measurements
are so different from inch-measurements that they do not try to make a
One wonders what goes through the minds of the no voters - what motivates
them to do that.
cm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Markus Kuhn
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 15:17
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:27682] RE: New
Someone probably saw pounds of force somewhere and just multiplied by 2.2
or something like that, doing a straight conversion while remaining somewhat
ignorant of what it really meant.
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James Frysinger
Sent:
Hmm. One could push the issue in those states by creating metric-only
labels for the entire country and sending the product to all states,
including them. Then wait for the yelling. Then point out how stupid the
yelling makes that state look, and would it please get on with the program,
The problem with Weatherbug is that if you select the metric option the wind
speed is in kph. I've written to them several times about that; after the
first time, I've been ignored.
Carleton
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Mighty Chimp
Two minor points:
At 18,000 feet (varies in some areas) aircraft change their altimeters from
whatever was at the nearest ground station to the standard setting of
1013.2. This way everyone at higher altitude is using the same standard
and, assuming they are properly calibrated, all altimeters
Feet and kPa are not directly related.
What it does mean is that an altimeter, set to standard pressure (1013.2),
will read the altitude indicated, if the outside pressure at that altitude
is the amount given.
And the main reason for the common setting at and above FL 180 is to make
sure
are flying on surfaces of constant pressure.
Any idea why this isn't standard practice? Have you seen this discussed
before in the pilot circles?
John
On Monday 15 December 2003 04:00, Carleton MacDonald wrote:
Feet and kPa are not directly related.
What it does mean is that an altimeter, set
Because the altimeter does not measure pressure at altitude, only distance (feet or
meters).
There is a setting where you put in either (1) ground level pressure at the
appropriate ground station, if you are not above the transition altitude; this
corrects for non-standard pressure, or (2)
If I remember right, Sud Aviation (which was also involved with the
Concorde) was one of the European manufacturers that got together to create
Airbus. By themselves, they were all making airplanes few people other than
their nationalized airlines wanted; together, they made a product that
My
Honeywell thermostat doesnt have this requirement. Set it to Celsius and program it normally, in increments of
one degree.
cm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of
Norman Nancy Werling
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003
20:24
To:
In my 1999 Saab 9-5 bought used, there are three settings for the display
system (outside thermometer, heat/AC settings, trip computer).
1. US - all wombat.
2. UK - temperature in whole degrees C, time 24 hr, but distances in miles.
3. Metric - everything right. Whole degrees C only.
Stupid
Unless of
course you count the archaic horsepower (but they do show engine output in kW
too)
cm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of
john mercer
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003
00:40
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:27986]
The
graphic came onto my computer as Ariel.
Microsoft only uses Helvetica.
Another giveaway. cm
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Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of
Chimpsarecute
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003
14:04
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:28029]
A year or
two ago the Australian dollar was well behind the Canadian dollar.
Now both
are nearly the same at 0.73 0.75 USD.
Even
though this may make it cheaper to send US products abroad, the US
manufacturers have already sent most of that work abroad, so I dont know if
there will
Noon is 12:00 pm in the 12-hour clock, because one minute after noon is
12:01 pm. It would be totally weird to go from 12:00 am to 12:01 pm.
Midnight is 12:00 am in the 12-hour clock, because the day begins at
midnight, and one minute after midnight is 12:01 am. Likewise, it would be
totally
Well, there's the front end of the week, and the back end of the week, and
together they make the weekend ...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Predrag Lezaic
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 14:29
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject:
Except that won't work, because:
The last moment of the day is 23:59:59, or 11:59:59 pm.
The first moment of the new day is 00:00:00, or 12:00:00 am.
It would be very strange to go from 11:59:59 am to 12:00:00 am to 12:00:01 pm.
cm
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I thought I'd mention it. If
you don't agree with the two midnights in one day concept, please
direct you disagreement to Mr. Kuhn and not me.
Euric
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From:
Carleton MacDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
U.S. Metric Association [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:
Thursday
It probably dates back to the invention of the clock itself.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Michael Ossipov
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 19:31
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:28081] Calendar, date and time
Does someone if who
: Chimpsarecute
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004
19:49
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; U.S.
Metric Association
Subject: Re: [USMA:28080] RE:
Calendar, date and time
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Original Message -
From: Carleton
MacDonald
To: U.S. Metric
Association
Sent: Thursday, 2004-01
blame if they show up for their
reservation 12 h too late or 12 h too early?
Euric
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Original Message -
From: Carleton
MacDonald
To: U.S. Metric
Association
Sent: Thursday, 2004-01-01
21:41
Subject:
[USMA:28090] RE: Calendar, date and time
Our
reservation computer
We should remember that the phonograph record has been completely supplanted
by the compact disc, which is made to a hard metric standard (15 mm hole, 80
or 120 mm diameter).
Undoubtedly someone out there will know of an obscure person or company
still making records ...
Carleton
-Original
Maybe because midnight is a constant, but sunset is not.
Carleton
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Ma Be
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 11:40
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:28108] When did we start reckoning days at midnight?...
: Calendar, date and time
On Thu, 1 Jan 2004 23:27:38
Carleton MacDonald wrote:
...
To the public, the day does not end at midnight; it ends when they go to
bed. This is where the 24 hour clock is very helpful. Ito?=s pretty clear
when the time goes from 2359 to that Something Happened. Not so
I take it Month 6 is the vacation month.
cm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Ma Be
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 15:29
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:28116] New Calendar!!!...
I'll take this opportunity (our fellow's post below)
The
meltdown usually comes when people have to actually use it (loose produce, meat
cut to order, etc.), and not just buying a package of something. They see steak priced by the kg and dont
know how much to order.
cm
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Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL
We would have to publish conversion charts for centuries, though: Dude,
when was my birthday?
cm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
John S. Ward
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 23:54
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:28164] Re: New
It seems quite likely that the contractors are working at picking off states
one at a time. With the current Congress and administration it is unlikely
that there will be any serious move back to metric now or in the future.
cm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL
Whining
contractors who have the ear of their legislatures.
cm
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Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of
john mercer
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004
23:39
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:28195] New York
state department of
I know
quite a few people who think that because this is America we are on top of the
world, why should we change, and the rest of the world should change and do
things the way we do.
cm
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Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of
Phil
Oops, got it backward. A UK pound was around $1.75 in 1982.
cm
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From: Jamie Terrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 14:33
To: Carleton MacDonald
Subject: RE: [A_A] GNER Menu
--- Carleton MacDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When I
I'm going through all my old stuff and organizing it. One of the things I
found was a Rand McNally street map of Boston from the mid-1970's.
On the back is the following, copied as written*. Break out the
handkerchiefs and the tissue:
THE METRIC MEASURE
Within the next ten years, the United
The only problem is that different people feel cold differently.
I was in Chicago in November 2000. A number of us from all around the
country were at a meeting. We went out to dinner at a restaurant off North
Michigan Avenue, near the Water Tower. The temperature was just below
freezing and
Ironic, it
was a Ray-Gun who dissolved the US Metric Board in the early 1980s
cm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of
Chimpsarecute
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004
11:25
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:28370] Mars
You
Three phase power into private homes is very rare. If you have all three
phases it's generally to run large motors, which are much more efficient
with three phrase running (and I don't think single phase motors get above a
certain size anyway). The biggest motor in most houses would be the air
I think that this is what is done. The power company probably divides the
wires on the low-voltage side of the transformer to even the load; that is,
about a third of the houses get 220 v from phases 1 and 3, a third from 2
and 3, and a third from 1 and 2.
cm
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From:
I think the issue is that it was done deliberately and gratuitously, for
shock value only. Quite different than doing it in context, in a serious
movie. It became the acting out of adolescents, and that is what ticked
everyone off.
cm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yup, my
county.
Of course,
The Washington Post dumbed down the units in yesterdays story about the Mars rover.
Carleton
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Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of
G. Stanley Doore
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004
06:41
To: U.S. Metric
Sounds
like Creation Science.
cm
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Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of
Chimpsarecute
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004
19:56
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:28630] RE: Get a
load of this!
Tony
Bennett on theBWMA forum.
My own opinion:
I couldn't care less if it's spelled meter, metre, etc.
What bothers me is when it's spelled inch, pound, ounce, mile ...
Carleton
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Bill Hooper
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 11:07
To:
As well as being pure, SI has to fit everyday life, or it will be laughed
out of existence by those who don't want to make the change. Everyday life
includes noting how far it is to a destination, knowing your speed in the
same units, and thereby figuring how long it will take you to get there.
In Kohl's I saw a variant of measuring cup with big numbers and the
proclamation US measurement only, allegedly to make it easier for Wilma
Flintstone to use. The US/metric version was still available too. Both
were by Pyrex. Ironic, since Pyrex's glass bowls, despite the paper label,
say only
Gaithersburg, Maryland, home of NIST:
1. My doctor's office (Kaiser). Balance scales are in lb. Baby scale can
have the balance flipped over to read kg. Conversion chart on wall (lb to
kg) next to stand up scale. Mommies all want the weight in lb. For anyone
older than a baby, nurses write
That would probably have to work only for a certain range.
For me at 1.79 m a mass of 79 kg would be pretty good.
But for a very short person, say 1.25 m ...
Carleton
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Pat Naughtin
Sent: Thursday, February
Not just there. In 1999 we went to Montreal to visit friends and went out
to dinner. The waitress served everyone wine, including my 13-year-old,
because in Quebec children often get a bit of wine at family dinners and
Jeffrey was going out with his family.
Carleton
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In 1998 I rented a Ford car here in Maryland; in 2004, so did a friend. In
both cases I looked at the owner's manual. Both manuals had all the car
specs listed in SI first and FFU second -- not only the specs, but text
within the manual itself. The only weak point was the use of horsepower
Since I changed from AOL proprietary e-mail to a cable internet provider,
and began using Outlook, dealing with e-mail is much faster and simpler. We
use it at work. The trains still run, the Republic still stands, and the
sun still rises in the east.
cm
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From: [EMAIL
This reminds me of something ...
Last year I was in a Costco in Canada and picked up some toothpaste, Crest,
quantity on tube is by volume -- 130 mL.
However, toothpaste sold in the US has the quantity in mass instead --
ounces and grams.
Same stuff, wonder why the difference.
Carleton
Aren't the employees still a part of the Civil Service, in some form of
other? I work for another quasi-governmental agency, but we are not
considered part of the Civil Service.
cm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Gavin Young
Sent: Sunday,
The
Fedex International Airbill allows the entry of mass and size in either SI or
wombat. cm
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of john
mercerSent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 20:32To: U.S. Metric
AssociationSubject: [USMA:29108] UPS
Although we think of them as related, the USA could convert from F to C
without doing anything else. Something long overdue, and relatively simple.
cm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Jason Darfus
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 12:22
To: U.S.
Suggestion:
Don't show links as properly-punctuated parts of sentences .. show them as
separate paragraphs, and disregard puctuation, viz.
sentence
link
more of sentence
That may help minimize broken links too.
cm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Subway 15" and "Subway 30" could be used ...
cm
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Ezra
SteinbergSent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 21:15To: U.S.
Metric AssociationSubject: [USMA:29253] Re: Australian
labelling
Yes, that's
Likewise here. I just order the large sandwich or the small one.
Carleton
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Chimpsarecute
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 00:13
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:29256] Re: Australian labelling
...
when
I installed a new humidifier and bought some metallic duct tape to seal off
the old location after patching it with a piece of metal cut from the new
location.
The roll was 48 mm x 50 m with NO inchpound equivalent shown!
Bought at Home Depot right here in Maryland.
Carleton
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Don't
forget:
Grover
Norquist
Sen.
Istook
Tom
DeLay
Wall
Street Journal Editorial Board
Karl
Rove
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Bill
PottsSent: Monday, March 29, 2004 11:45To: U.S. Metric
AssociationSubject:
That's
what this forum is about. But the cause of metrication does not live
outside the political world, and discussion of the political forces and
attitudes that affect metrication is valid.
Examples:
One
Congressman, who slipped a small, almost unnoticeablezinger into the
Not all cars. Saab speedos are km-only and have been for some time. There
may be others.
cm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Stephen Gallagher
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:05
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:29400] Re: To Pat
The
students will likely develop cogent arguments along the lines of simplicity,
cost saving, standardization, coherence, etc. I wonder if any of them will
be sophisticated enough to also understand, and write about, the political
factors and impediments that come into play.
Carleton
IBM
was one of the first users of the small diskette, and I guess they felt they had
to dumb down the size for the American audience, or to match their 5.25 in
diskette (the only real "floppy" diskette; the 90 mm diskette is rigid plastic,
and does not flop).
Carleton
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True. Wine and beer in wine and beer shops (and in ONE store of a chain -
one only). Distilled spirits is limited to county stores. And all wine,
beer and liquor has to be bought from the county warehouse. California,
where I'm from, has two simple laws: (1) not between 0200-0600 (2) not if
Title: Message
35 in
D.C. yesterday. Time to move to Newfoundland.
cm
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Phil
ChernackSent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 16:44To: U.S.
Metric AssociationSubject: [USMA:29591] RE: Where did everyone
The original inquirer was actually speaking about turbojet engines, which
often are rated in pounds of thrust. Most are actually turbofan engines,
with a large ducted fan in front that blows only air. This increases
efficiency and reduces noise.
Carleton
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From: [EMAIL
Looks like I started something on a railroad-oriented
list. Someone said that a "half-mile long" passenger train was the longest
he had seen. Then he described a 70-car train. I pointed out how
long it was - and away things went; it got rather interesting.This is
rather long and if you
I run Windows 2000 and changed the description to 90 mm floppy*. However,
if I right-click on the icon in My Computer, and then on Properties, it
still shows the type as 3 1/2 inch Floppy Disk, and this CANNOT be
changed. Stupid IBM and Microsoft.
*I tried to make it diskette but that was too
Actually, the demand water heater is getting quite a following in the USA.
Go to Google or other search engine and type in demand water heater and
browse through the results.
Carleton
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of MightyChimp
Sent:
A Pyrex bowl at the grocery store was advertised on its paper insert as 4
qt/3.77 L. I looked at the bottom, where letters are embossed into the
glass. 4 L. I have other Pyrex bowls at home that say 1 L, 1.5 L, etc.
Wonder why they had to falsify the amount on the paper insert.
cm
Probably because people feel more comfortable with smaller numbers:
90 instead of 900. Also, in this case, use of mm could imply a level of
precision that is not there. Physical objects, measured in mm even though
large, are EXACTLY that size. But a 90 cm shirt size, for example, would
have
Does
"15.2" mean 15.2 hands, or 15 hands 2 inches?
This
is a similar concept to "stone" in the UK.
cm
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Harry
WyethSent: Monday, June 07, 2004 05:10To: U.S. Metric
AssociationSubject:
Unreal, the strangeness of FFU.
Carleton
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of James
WentworthSent: Monday, June 07, 2004 08:03To: U.S.
Metric AssociationSubject: [USMA:30071] RE: Horses and
hands
Carleton MacDonald
(cm
I just launched Internet Explorer. The home page is www.comcast.net. Three
news items appear in a rotation. One read:
Birthday Leap
Former president George Bush will celebrate his 80th birthday by jumping out
of an airplane at 4500 meters. This will be his fifth skydive, which he
says he
I agree with her that one island should have one speed limit. So when is
she going to change the signs on her end?
cm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 15:27
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject:
Tide's 2 kg and 3 kg boxes of tablets are no longer in our local store,
though.
cm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Nat Hager III
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 21:08
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:30192] Tide 400 ml
Picked up at
Display the link and read down into the text.
You will note everything is SI -- except the height of the children!
Carleton
-
http://www.angkor.com/2bangkok/2bangkok/Subway/index.shtml
.
Carleton MacDonald
Except -- that what groups like the BWMA do over there, we can expect here,
when metrication finally is fully implemented in the USA. Learning from the
experiences of others is always a good idea.
Carleton
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of
There
are fixed distribution costs that do not directly relate to the quantity of
product inside the container. For this reason two half-sizes in two
containers is usually more expensive than one full-size in one
container.
Carleton
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This link is from a recent discussion on www.washingtonpost.com -- the
metric reference is a little more than halfway down.
Carleton
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/liveonline/advertisers/viewpoint_airbus
072004.htm?nav=vpbox
.
David King
*
*
Carleton MacDonald wrote:
This link is from a recent discussion on www.washingtonpost.com -- the
metric reference is a little more than halfway down.
Carleton
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/liveonline/advertisers/viewpoint_airbu
s
072004.htm?nav=vpbox
Again
-- it's because the cost of the product is not proportional to the size, when
other expenses are factored in. The salary of the bartender, the overhead
of the pub, etc., are fixed, regardless of the quantity of product vended.
A purely hypothetical example to illustrate the concept:
As part of the current Atkins diet fad, food manufacturers are falling all
over themselves to tell the cosumer how few carbs their food has.
I know about the calorie, kilojoule, gram, etc., but I do not find the unit
carb anywhere in the SI, or even in FFU, for that matter.
Does anyone know what
The other trick is to:
Click reply or forward. This lets you edit the text in the new window
Put your cursor right after the end of the first part of the link
Hit delete
The hidden hard carriage return disappears, and the link is put back
together
Now click on it and it should work
Carleton
710 ml is a soft conversion of the 24-oz size, which is somewhat common.
cm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of David King
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 17:39
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:30764] RE: 0.5 liter bottles.
710 ml is
USA
athletes seem to have no trouble with metric measure for swimming, foot races,
etc.
Why
the hangup with long jump and pole vaulting, I have no idea. And the
networks do not help one bit by continuing this garbage.
To
this athlete, all I can say is waa, waa, waa to his excuses. The
You need to also consider:
1. A well-funded campaign to recall the Governor, started by conservative
Republicans, began last year.
2. The person who initially funded the petition was suddenly no longer the
prime candidate.
3. A new prime candidate came out of nowhere.
4. The Karl Rove
In
1998 I bought a bottle of Coke in Canada (Moncton). It was 600 ml on the
label.
In
2003 I bought a bottle of Coke in Canada (Victoria). It was 591 ml on the
label.
The
bottle seemed to be the same size, but the latter was a direct conversion from
20 oz. (oz was not on the label)
I
It is particularly annoying to hear the NBC announcers give the result of a
long jump, high jump, shotput or javelin toss in FFU when, right behind, is
an electronic sign with the result in meters. Why are these sports
different from the others? NBC has no trouble with swimming or running.
Also, most speed limit signs are in black and white only. Keeping the same
two colors saves money.
cm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Stephen Gallagher
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 09:05
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:31018]
Last time I was there Saabs are sold in Canada with speedometers in km/h
only.
Carleton
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Hillger, Don
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 16:17
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:31078] RE: km/h on
Some of us are still here doing things in our various, sometimes quiet,
ways.
My friends have long since realized I'm not going to give them anything in
inches, miles, quarts ...
And when I go to Subway I will ask for the small one or the big one but
refuse to say six inch or footlong. (Once,
Hey, you forgot stones!
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Behalf Of m. f. moon
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 14:30
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:31113] Re: Metric
But if you think degrees are bad try thinking in radians!
Marion Moon
Gore thinking he could campaign fairly when someone like Rove was his
opponent?
cm
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Behalf Of Nat Hager III
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 21:52
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:31168] Drudge
Drifting off
Ah, the
wonders of back-converting.
cm
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Michael PayneSent: Friday, October 01, 2004 14:19To:
U.S. Metric AssociationSubject: [USMA:31206]
Propel
Recently bought a case of Propel vitamin
From The Washington Post, Sunday, October 3, 2004. Emphasis
added. Carleton
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A2278-2004Oct2.html
Shoppers Raise Their Red Flags
By Margaret Webb Pressler
Washington Post Staff WriterSunday, October 3,
2004; Page F01
Whenever I organize my
In
answer to your question at the bottom ("Why do Americans consider it to be
acceptable to be alone in a unit of measure?") I think you already gave
the reason (no. 5).
Carleton
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of BrentonSent:
Euric
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From:
Carleton
MacDonald
To: U.S. Metric Association
Sent: Sunday, 2004-10-03 15:05
Subject: [USMA:31213] Consumer Issues:
Unit Pricing
From The Washington Post, Sunday, October 3, 2004. Emphasis
added
Then-Prime Minister Mulroney, a conservative, listened to some whiners in
the 1980's and the result was the metric baby stuck halfway born - he made
things voluntary at that point. The sticking point was the usual one --
loose produce, meat, etc. NAFTA has probably had a lot to do with US FFU
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