Why is this list setup so that when I reply to a message it goes to the
sender and not to the list? None of my posts have appeared on the
mailing list yet, and I hope this one does and is the correct address to
send to. Other lists I am on are set up so that any reply goes to the
list, not the
While most of the world uses the A series of paper, the USA continues on
with its own sizes (e.g. Letter). Canada also has its own proprietory
paper sizes.
The international A series is very easy to use. The ratio of the sides
is always the square root of 2, i.e. divide the length by width and
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on 2004-06-26 08.00, David King at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
While most of the world uses the A series of paper, the USA continues on
with its own sizes (e.g. Letter). Canada also has its own proprietory
paper sizes.
The international A series
I would have thought the USAF would have used air miles. :-)
Seriously though, are not the USAF fully metric? I can only go by what I
have seen on TV, in the portrayal of the USAF in the series Stargate
SG1, where they were fully or almost fully metric, certainly did not use
miles but used
And why choose to go back to the stone age and ditch km?
David
MightyChimp wrote:
Here is the page the statement was taken from:
http://www.harness.org.au/ahrc/annual/public/records/aus_distt.htm
But, I'm confused. If they reverted to miles, why are the distances
in the first two columns
I could only read the first part of it and felt sick. There are some
sick minds out there. The ironic thing about the Nazi link, is that
there are two political parties in the UK who have been described as or
linked with Nazis in the past due to their very racist policies, the
British National
t the BWMA was linked to a neo-NAZI group. Could you
provide more info?
Euric
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From: "David King" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "U.S. Metric Association" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 2004-06-30 19:15
Subject: [USMA:30262] Re: Metric Paramilitaries Ready t
An interesting site on metrication is at http://www.metrication.com/ for
those who have not seen it yet.
David
ncrease the likelihood of accidents.
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urse) from causing further damage to metrication.
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From:
David
King
To:
U.S.
Metric Association
Sent:
Monday, 2004-07-05 19:31
Subject:
[USMA:30294] Re: The Campaign against Metric Signage
So
ods in FFU
only.
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Found this info at
http://www.network54.com/Forum/thread?forumid=101350messageid=1080132944lp=1086609534
Poll
March 24 2004 at 12:55 PMmetre
Came across a radio poll conducted March 24/04 by the Australian
Broadcasting Commission in a predominantly rural area (Riverina NSW)
Question: Which
to give up trying to send my message
to them. If any of you have read my message and think it has merit, and
if you would be interested in sending a copy to them for me, I would be
pleased to have you do so.
with regrets,
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t to
do it?)
In any case, I'm afraid I'm going to give up trying to send my message
to them. If any of you have read my message and think it has merit, and
if you would be interested in sending a copy to them for me, I would be
pleased to have you do so.
with regrets,
Bill Hooper
Yes, the same problem for me too, and I am using Mozilla Thunderbird for
email. Typographical quotes are more correct and look nicer, but it
seems that somewhere in the email system these get changed, due to plain
text coding or whatever.
David
Bill Potts wrote:
Pat:
Could you please stop
this nonsense they have
on right now.
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we all keep passing this
to our friends
(and enemies) it will also, sooner or later
get back to the
complainers, lets all try,
please
Have a wonderful
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Thanks for that, Terry, I did not realise that there was more than one
Western ISO font to choose from, I have set my email prog to use the one
ending in 15 and now I see your Euro symbol instead of the circle with 4
pointy bits.
David
Terry Simpson wrote:
.
I see that you are still using
The inch is precisely defined as 25.4 mm, however, this can never be
more precise than metric. As MightyChimp wrote, FFUs are today defined
more by their metric equivalents. For centuries the imperial
measurements have changed over time, between places and sometimes the
names changed, where is
ad of "Ye Old English units", I often refer to the entire set
as "Ye Olde Englsih mixture". I used to call it "Ye Olde English
System" until someone pointed out that it is not much of a "system"
but more of a hodge-podge mixture of originally unrelated units.
Now
t;y'all".
Sie also means they, which is not the same as the plural you or you-all.
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Potts is right. I stand corrected.
Thanks.
Regards,
Bill Hooper
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Also see
http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?p=dictString=exactAcronym=PSI
for acronyms of PSI.
David King wrote:
Psi is pronounced like the word "sigh", the P is silent, as in
psychotic or psoriasis.
It is a word which means "Parapsychological phenome
measurements, such as pints and miles.
The poll was conducted in response to a call by the UK Metric
Association that Britain should go totally metric.
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I think most people who want to keep the pint are afraid of getting
less beer -- there really is too much obesession with beer amongst the
British working classes!
David King
Michael-O wrote:
David King
wrote:
Bwma are very proud of that statistic.
however, the question was, should
Okay, I am now omitting the HTML signature and sending all messages to
the list in plain text only. If the extra size of using HTML is a
problem, then perhaps list users should stick to sending posts in plain
text only unless HTML is absolutely needed for a post.
David King
Bill Potts wrote
. At present all beer sold
in bottles or cans is metric only, and the beers listed on the menu were
all in metric sizes.
David King
Michael-O wrote:
David King wrote:
Bwma are very proud of that statistic. however, the question was,
should the UK go TOTALLY metric? And if 93% said
in grams. The freedom of expression statement by BWMA
is ridiculous as the amount of the contents is informative rather than
an opinion, and freedom of expression is related more to opinions than
scientific data.
David King
MightyChimp wrote:
Under EC (Should be EU) directive 1999/103, the above-type
We do actually have a mailing list for UKMA members, this is located at
http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/metric
David King
Harry Wyeth wrote:
May I suggest--in case any USMA administrators are
listening/reading--that this service somehow be modified to create
something separate
kg/kW could also be expressed as g/W
Pat Naughtin wrote:
Dear All (especially the Physicists),
Recently I posted a message (copy below) where I constructed a unit to show
a ratio between power and mass of some common, and some not so common, cars.
The unit I chose was watts per kilogram with W/kg
My comments below in the text:
MightyChimp wrote:
David,
How would you like to be a poster on the BWMA site? We need UK citizens to
post rebuttals to statements made by UK imperialists. I'm always told that
because I've never been to the UK I don't know what I'm saying when I make
statements of
For long URLs, it is often better to make a short one, using
http://tinyurl.com and then you something like
http://tinyurl.com/4xqnr
which takes you to the site linked to below, but avoids the problem of
the link being so long it breaks up before the end of the line.
David King
*
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Carleton
I think that in general in the UK the price of half a pint of beer/stout
etc. is half the price of a pint in a pub on draught.
When sold in cans, bottles, etc., the sizes will be in metric in the UK
and price per 100 ml varies.
David King
Stephen Gallagher wrote:
--- Stephen Davis [EMAIL
The link works if you use the short link: http://tinyurl.com/4xqnr
David King
H. Maenen wrote:
It is not possible to click this link anymore. Does anyone know what
was said about metric aviation?
Han
Message date : 02-08-2004 11:26
From : MightyChimp
become fully metric long before now that things would be
better, and that if the UK had remained totally imperial it would be
worse as the UK could not have traded with anyone (unless it used metric
and US measurements, both of which are different to UK imperial
measurements).
David King
outside a school would not become 100 km/h but hopefully
something like 40 to 60 km/h.
David King
Nat Hager III wrote:
Might want to keep an eye on this
http://www.politics.ie/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=6030
http://www.politics.ie/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=6030
Nat
--
. But I
won't go any further into religious discussions as this is a forum about
getting the USA to go metric rather than a Christian forum.
David King
Scott Hudnall wrote:
Measurement and mathematics in the Bible should be taken with a
healthy dose of skepticism and an few mg of salt
with Nazis. Also they are not officially linked to the
BMWA.
David King
MightyChimp wrote:
It was posted on the Metricsucks website by a BWMA member who posted it
under my username.
His real name is Bryan Parry.
I had no idea that the BWMA was linked to a neo-NAZI group. Could you
provide more info
it on the grounds of it being a man-made
modern invention.
David King
710 ml is quite strange for bottled drink size. 750 ml is the normal
size for wine, and it could be used for other drinks easily and logically.
David King
Euric wrote:
Why not 330 mL, 500 mL, 750 mL, 1 L and 2 L? Why 710 mL?
Euric
- Original Message -
From: Phil Chernack [EMAIL
a receipt for the actual products I purchased with the
correct descriptions please?
David King
Scott Hudnall wrote:
The other day I was shopping at The Container Store in and noticed
that they offer many kitchen products in hard-metric sizes with
metric-only labeling on the containers ( they were
Or use http://tinyurl.com please! Visit the site, enter the long URL and
then use the generated URL they provide and paste that into your plain
text email, it will so short it will not break, e.g.
http://tinyurl.com/5v24u
David King*
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Euric wrote:
I don't do that. It is annoying and an extra
with imperial and be wanting to use that, except for
military use (as the US military have long been metric).
Anyway, I look forward to seeing the show when it reaches the UK.
David King
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2004 August 14
re 30758
I am told that Stargate is produced
have had a UK passport since 1990 and never had my size
info on the passport.
David King
Euric wrote:
I was in a local clothing store on the weekend to take advantage of some
sales. I was absolutely surprised to discover that the racks upon racks
of shirts that I looked at had the sizes stated
.
Melvin Lister should start his own Cry Baby Olympics for losers with
pathetic excuses. He might actually win a gold medal at that.
David King
H. Maenen wrote:
When the BWMA finds out about this, it will probably make the demand
that at all international sports event in the world ifp units must
This is the first message I received for 2 days also. Maybe all the
Americans are on holiday?
David King
H. Maenen wrote:
I have not received any message from the list server for two days now.
Something wrong with the listserver?
Han
Don't forget as well that the Governor grew up in a metric country, Austria.
And you could ask him to terminate the backward thinking move to
imperial units.
David King
John Nichols wrote:
Write to Arnie instead.
Dear Governor,
I am very sad to learn that CAL-TRANS is about to waste a small
be better described as US units. They are never referred to as
English units in England, only as imperial units, because a lot of them
originated with the Roman Empire.
David King
Euric wrote:
Arnold may have been born and raised in a metric country, but he is now
totally Americanised. I'm sure if you
.
David King
Jim Elwell wrote:
At 27 08 04, 04:02 PM, mavi fibe wrote:
Why keep fighting? That's the conclusion I arrived at
with this incredibly stupid decision. If the ones who
were at the forefront of bringing progress to the US
when it comes to the SI system gave up, what else can
ANYONE
Or how about DAU for Dumb Ass Units?
I don't understand the M in DMU.
David King
Phil Chernack wrote:
I meant DMU for dumb-ass units.
-Original Message-
From: Phil Chernack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 7:43 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 'U.S. Metric Association
According to BBC website, a poll suggests that 62% of UK citizens want
the UK to complete the changeover to metric
1 sept 2004
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3934353.stm
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it might be better for USMA to NOT be under 501(c)3
restrictions/regulations. Ideally USMA needs the backing of big business
or a millionnaire/billionnaire backer -- anyone know Bill Gates'
position on metric?
David King
Jim Elwell wrote:
As Robert Bushnell pointed out recently, the US Metric
The results of the poll have now been removed from the BBC website, but
it was clearly showing 62% or respondents wanting metric. Also now at
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3934353.stm there are quite a lot of
pro-metric comments.
David King
Euric wrote:
Where did you come up
fractions or many noughts after the
decimal point.
David King
Euric wrote:
metre
Millimetre v inches September 7 2004, 5:42 AM
Some time ago, I came across an imperial site where an engineer waxed
lyrical about thous (1/1000 of an inch) used in lathe work. As
expected, he sang the praises
When I worked on the CNC machines, it was in microns, which I also
referred to as micrometres in my posting (UK spelling).
David King
Terry Simpson wrote:
Of David King
I have, many years ago, used CNC machine tools and always
worked in microns
Ahem
I pronounce it uzmah. I also use the word kilo. But I never use
imperial or US customary units.
David King
Bill Potts wrote:
Ahem to your ahem.
USMA is not an acronym -- unless you want to get everyone to pronounce it
ussmah. Everyone I know spells it out, as initials -- you ess emm ay.
I agree
in metricated the roads. Both can save lives, as the
Irish govt have used metrication of speed limits to reduce speed limits
in areas where it was needed. And if all roads in the world used km it
would make driving safer if we all use the same system. Maybe the US
will follow suit.
David King
Tom Wade
I guess that Cadillac do not want their cars driven outside of the USA!
David King
Jason Darfus wrote:
Correction - all the current Cadillac CARS have MPH-only speedos.
This doesn't seem to be the case with the SUVs.
All the current Cadillacs have MPH-only speedometers. Go check out
Try Yahoo groups, it's free and allows users to post messages on the
group website or via email.
http://groups.yahoo.com
David King
mavi fibe wrote:
Hello, folks,
I'm sorry to bother you for this, but I'm in need of assistance. Can
anyone here provide me with info on how to build this type
Pity they did not use any metric for anything else, they have things
like a 2-mile marker, 215 feet, etc.
David King
Euric wrote:
When I went to the site it looked like they are calling the race a 12
kelvin race. Kind of strange, wouldn't you think/
Euric
- Original Message
Translation:
Error... the page you seek is not on this server. Click here to go the
main index page.
David King
Euric wrote:
Clicking on his website gives you this:
Han may need to translate.
Fout...
404;http://www.gin.com/absolute
De pagina die u zoekt bestaat niet op deze server.
klik hier
. They also insisted their
screen sizes were accurate. Having never had a chance to measure their
screens I do not know, but monitors for desktop PCs never have a
viewable area of the size quoted, even the flat screens which have no
tube inside.
David King
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http
complexities
and so on...
The Department is adamant there will be no further delays.
http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/motoring/2004/1006/1096684862192.html
David King
Ezra Steinberg wrote:
I did a search of the Irish Times and came up with this result:
*100%* *Irish Times Article - 'Education' blamed
It seems to be saying that they could not sell by barrel measure but
any imperial units were okay that were allowed in law at the time.
David King
Euric wrote:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/thread?forumid=101350messageid=1097716349lp=1098041098
http://www.network54.com/Forum/thread
imperial units but just repeating what they heard,
such as a person weighed so many stones, etc.
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an old cooker, and all its temps were
in Celsius, so I really don't believe that there are any cookers left
with F on them still in regular use. Well I just looked at some frozen
food that needs to be cooked in the oven, and it gives temps in both C
and F.
David King
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I thought this list was about implementing the metric system in the USA,
trying to get the USA to accept and use metric, rather than invent
fanciful new measurement units or redefining metric to suit oneself.
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Euric
. It certainly seems that it is being used more on TV
and among English people.
David King
Thanks, that does make it easier, putting in the equivalent metric
lengths, otherwise it is all pretty meaningless.
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Euric wrote:
Thanks for the info, but it would have been easier to understand if it
read like
was promising to be like the British (taking into account the
other things he said to, which I forget now) because the British are
fully metric. Well, he was almost right.
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I think it's probably true that most
I cannot read the article without registering.
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Euric wrote:
*http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/10/29/1099028208550.html?oneclick=true*
Inches re-introduced in Australia
*Give them an inch...*
Partly because Australia
The only gas used in cars here in the UK would be liquid petroleum gas
(LPG) which is also found in other vehicles too, including some new buses.
Well there is course the other type of gas, i.e. when someone had too
much food that disagreed with them :-)
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I doubt that Bush will do much for metrication if he wins again. I am no
fan of either Bush or Kerry, but it might be a good idea to suggest to
the winner that metrication of the USA should be completed asap if the
USA is to be competitive in the modern world rather than isolationist.
David
I find it extremely hard to believe that the Irish public have
absolutely no knowledge at all of metric. Surely they have been taught
metric at school?
David King
*Switch to metric speed limits delayed and confused - Mitchell
**Date:* Wednesday, November 03, 2004
*Topic:* Transport (from
I sent this today to the Iron Man organisers, as they specify all the
measurements in US units. Only on one page did they give km equivalents
which they did badly, as the miles amounts were approx (for training)
and the km were exact to 1 decimal place.
http://vnews.ironmanlive.com
David King
seriously. The scientists in France invented the system,
and the world has accepted it universally (at least at an official
level) since without saying it could not meet the needs of the people.
It has always met my needs.
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According to
http://www.croner.co.uk/cgi-bin/croner/jsp/Editorial.do?cache=truechannelId=-50105contentId=12917BV_UseBVCookie=Yes
the Bahamas uses both imperial and metric.
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Euric wrote:
*UKMA: Bahamas is not a country
I did not see any mention of the old soldier who died as having promoted
metric at all in his obituary. Was it there or somewhere else that you
discovered he fought for metric? I am thinking that the recipient of
your letter will think likewise and think that what you wrote was not true.
David
Sorry, this was supposed to go to the USMA list. I keep forgetting to
change the to field!
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Subject:Re: [USMA:31467] Tesco
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 14:13:00 +
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References: [EMAIL
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Phil Chernack wrote:
I have been watching CSI: Miami and CSI: New York with some regularity
now and have noticed the use of SI in both. This past Monday, one of
the investigators when talking to a suspect stated
Greek letters are part of the standard Windows OS, in Windows 2000 and
XP, so I can write with my email program and most people should see it
okay on their PC. Otherwise it is normally written as mju, at least by
Olympus for their mju range of cameras (pronounced mew).
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, then it
makes sense to stick with a time measurement system that the majority of
the world uses, too.
David King
Bill Potts wrote:
Brij:
I'll say this for you. You're persistent.
However, I must also say that, in your quest for the decimalization of time,
you're flogging a dead horse. (Yes, even
I hope they film it in a better studio this time with better special
effects, the first moon landing had too many errors to be taken seriously.
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David Shatto wrote:
Hi everyone. I came across this story today on Space.com
and so on in the USA in order to better compete on
the world scene. I think that most countries outside of the USA do not
want non-metric labelling, especially in countries where they have not
learned anything related to US customary units.
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different to UK imperial measures. But, the sooner the USA metricates
fully, the better things will be for the rest of the world in moving
forward.
David King
Bill Hooper wrote:
On 2004 Dec 6 , at 11:07 AM, Rodney Jones wrote:
I have yet to see a post from anyone actually related to metrication
What a pity it was not on a metric sized page!
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This is the only direct contact I received from the Machine Design editorial
is approx anyway?
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Jim Elwell wrote:
At 8 12 04, 03:01 PM, David King wrote:
What a pity it was not on a metric sized page!
David King
Two
Not sure what you mean by customary files.
David King
m.f.moon wrote:
Going to full metric paper, i. e., ISO sizes presents a real cost to
business as most customary files won't handle A4 very well.
Marion Moon
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From
In the UK the letter K is often used to denote anything that is in
thousands nowadays, such as salary of 20 K meaning 20 thousand pounds.
David King
john mercer wrote:
/Hello everyone. I was watching t v last night. they were talking
about money. They were talking about $5 and used
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1 foot = 30.48 cm
1000 cubic cm = 1 litre
30.48^3 = 28 316 cm^3
= 28 316 ml = 28.316 litres
^
David King
Scott Hudnall wrote:
1 foot = 0.3048 meters. You would convert your cubic foot reading to
cubic meters then move the decimal to arrive at cubic decimeters
(liters
conversion or the figure for the
external volume?
David King
john mercer wrote:
* They had another model listed as 24 literor .09 cu.ft. If you
use that formula it looks like .1 cu.ft is 3 liters, but that would
make the conversion factor between liters and cu.ft 1 cu.ft = 30
liters. Thanks
was probably the least
voted for candidate in the whole of London. And in his advertising
campaign before the election, he used a very old picture of himself when
he was a young man, even though he is in his 50s.
Although this meeting is very local to me, I don't think I shall be going.
David King
FFU = Fred Flintstone Units, thus called because they are the
old-fashioned units that most of the world does not use, and which are
more suited to the Stone Age typified by the Flintstones cartoon.
Could also stand for Failed Former Units, Funny Foreign Units, Fake
Foolish Units, etc.
David
degrees
Celsius is.
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Mike Panfil wrote:
I have a question for those of you who reside in Canada...
When you converted to Celsius was the switch from
actually
list FFU as meaning Fred Flintstone Units.
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Stephen Humphreys wrote:
As I just stated in a previous response, Football Fan Union is not
known
are afraid to bring it about.
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Stephen Humphreys wrote:
I was under the impression that Americans simply call it Customary
or English. Personally I don't like
At least someone understands what Brij is saying, I don't think anyone
else does.
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Stephen Humphreys wrote:
I think I understand (!)
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