On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 21:17:15 -0700, Brian Phillips
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If the majority of consumers will restrain themselves, the music
industry will follow suit.
I guess because of the hundreds of times the media industry has
restrained itself from taking advantage of the consumer with
Just to keep an old flame war going
I will not argue that BSD is more free, except that, if you read my
letter, you would notice little difference between Disney taking a work
that was only protected for 28 years and making a derivitive that will
be protected for 95, or more, years and a
I just joined this group yesterday due to a project I am working on, which I
will describe in another email, but I thought I would make some mention of
this copyright issue. I have been working for the Family and Church History
department of the Church for several years and developed software
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, Andrew Jorgensen wrote:
The kind of people who steal music would steal it at any price. It's
a matter of integrity, not cost.
I beg to differ. I think that the vast majority of people who copy a CD
for a friend, who tape music off the radio, or who download mp3s from
Craig J. Lindstrom wrote:
Think about what the church might own.
/me thinks.
Nope, can't think of anything. Is there something dark in our history
that would draw into question the veracity of our beliefs? Or are they
sacred things we don't want to see out in the public? Either way,
I suppose there are documents that the church does not want available for
public view, or would rather not have them easily available. Not that this
is one, but do you want the temple ordinance available for public view?
Think a little harder :)
As far as letting the copyright expire, you would
Okay, I've been working on this for a while, but it seems the iptables
nut is just too hard to crack. I even went to UVLUG's excellent firewall
meeting last Saturday.
I'm trying to get Devil Linux (a live cd-based firewall distro) to work,
and I just can't seem to get it right. It boots fine,
On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 11:10 -0700, jb wrote:
Okay, I've been working on this for a while, but it seems the iptables
nut is just too hard to crack. I even went to UVLUG's excellent firewall
meeting last Saturday.
excellent might be a little generous. ;)
Hang tight. iptables is not that hard
A very wise friend of mine told me there are three things I should never
do because they would put my testimony in jeopardy:
1. Look at pronography
2. Break the Word of Wisdom
3. Work for the Church
Frequently we assume that all things the Church does are inspired
decisions made by the
--- jb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Craig J. Lindstrom wrote:
Think about what the church might own.
/me thinks.
Nope, can't think of anything. Is there something
dark in our history
that would draw into question the veracity of our
beliefs?
--jeremy
The salamander letter!
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, Craig J. Lindstrom wrote:
I suppose there are documents that the church does not want available for
public view, or would rather not have them easily available. Not that this
is one, but do you want the temple ordinance available for public view?
Think a little harder :)
I'm
Recently, at the recommendation of a silly friend I tried partitioning
my hard drive and trying the 9.2 build of suse available on your ftp
server. After a mild catastrophe, I finagled the whole system back to a
stable state only to find that my wireless card refused to work under
the native
On Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 08:32:28AM -0700, Sasha Pachev wrote:
I am restraining myself from all the music filled with the content that
drives away the Spirit.
...
I [listen] only to ... public-domain Russian music from the 70s and
80s.
Now if THAT doesn't drive away the Spirit, I wouldn't
On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 14:44 -0700, Craig J. Lindstrom wrote:
Having said that, I have written software that is public domain (what open
source was called before the current open source craze), and software that
is patented. I chose.
Open Source software has never been public domain. This is
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 09:50:12 -0700, Craig J. Lindstrom
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Boot from CF (it will show up as an IDE drive)
Have a look at OpenEmbedded http://www.openembedded.org/. It's
become kind of the base system for a lot of embedded / CF-based
distros and projects. From what I've
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Just a clarification: Copyright in the US has always had extensions.
However, the the original system required the copyright seeker to apply
for it, just like a patent, and then it was granted for on 14 years. If
the creator was still alive when that expired, they could apply for a
14-year
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, Craig J. Lindstrom wrote:
Actually copyrights do expire and they can only be extended if you can show
they are in use. To retain the copyright these documents were imaged and
are available in a collection. I think it costs around $1500. So no, it
isn't really a
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, Craig J. Lindstrom wrote:
Actually copyrights do expire and they can only be extended if you can show
they are in use. To retain the copyright these documents were imaged and
are available in a collection.
I'm not sure where you're getting this information from, but I'd be
I think most people recognize
that it is sometimes morally imperative to disobey an unjust law.
Agreed. Many of you who filter email list into threads or filter out
spam are already in violation of this patent.
I'm emailing you, despite the fact that this is a relatively trivial
problem, because constraints on my time and the speed of my internet
connection have really interfered with any further efforts to tinker
with this problem. I don't know exactly how much it is worth to me but I
would be
In other cases, if the
information gained from the treatment (or from other research) had been
published, other doctors could have improved upon it, and could have
helped to improve, or even save the lives of their own patients.
fyi,
patents are publications that explain *exactly* how to
Josh Coates wrote:
In other cases, if the
information gained from the treatment (or from other research) had been
published, other doctors could have improved upon it, and could have
helped to improve, or even save the lives of their own patients.
fyi,
patents are publications that explain
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, Josh Coates wrote:
patents are publications that explain *exactly* how to something works, and
they are supposed to be granted only if it someone familiar with the art
can reproduce it after reading the patent.
Nominally, of course. In reality, they're murder to get
On Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 08:15:10PM -0700, Craig J. Lindstrom wrote:
Yes there are times when an unjust law must not be obeyed. But it is
certainly not to get free music, movies, or software.
You don't realize how screwed up things are. For example, if you use
Linux, and you buy a DVD, you
You would still be unable to perform the procedure (even your improved
version of it) without a patent license from the original patent holder.
adam, jason - yes, thanks for the clarification. if the new patent
contained *every* part of the old patent, then you would have to license the
old
AV: I use ClamAV for corporate antivirus protection, and Grisoft AVG
for personal/home machines.
Drive Recovery Tools: You can do some drive recovery with Knoppix,
but I spent $150 on Spinrite 6 for it's low level functionality.
Malware cleanup: I use Spybot Search Destroy, and turn on
Curiosity.
What's the big difference between ClamAV and girsoft AVG?? Pros Cons
and the like.
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find the solutions they need. If there were no patents, would all the biotech
firms close up shop, so that no new medicines would be developed? Put
yourself in their shoes: millions of people die of cancer. Their health care
costs run into the billions. You have a bunch of medical
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