Stan, I thought you might be interested. This weekend I indulged myself. On
saturday morning I went down to a local dyno shop (Dynojet-150). Asked him to
do power runs. Peak power was 112hp. This is a bike with 13,500miles on it from
new, a Mark's 4-2-2 exhaust and absolutely stock needles and
Thanks for the details of your story. I enjoy this type of feedback and most people
don't say what they run. a 1.83 0-60 is decent. You hit a 1.70 and you are
really doing what the vmax is capable of in terms of a holeshot. Launch around 7-8
grand and feather the clutch. You will get it
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Subject: Re: Kerker Vs. Hindle
The owner John Gainey.
Look, They built my 1500 CC long Rod motor. The last dyno came in at 192HP
/125 lbs of torque and they are shooting for more. I don't know one way or
the other for certain, I just know
system with Vance Hines cans. I doubt Hindle has changed their
design in the past two years so why the different setups?
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From: Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: Kerker Vs. Hindle
you gotta know bert to answer this one. he is
a class A tinkerer and wanted to more or less design his own
pipe using some software, his own intuition, and help from
PCW. it was what he preferred so PCW obliged. i haven't heard
from bert in a while but i guess he's on the "other" list and
i am
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you gotta know bert to answer this one. he is
a class A tinkerer and wanted to more or less design his own
pipe using some software, his own intuition, and help from
PCW. it was what he preferred so PCW obliged. i haven't heard
from bert in a while b
about this pipe It just did not work out
and is up for sale. Infact .. the last I heard from him the whole deal
was very disappointing and the ticketmaster was in a state of terminal
dysfunction.
campbell
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From: Doug Ullman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Ke
e also stated that the stock system designed for the
Max has
good flow and hard to beat, other than the increased weight as opposed
to
the Hindle setup. "
end of post ..
campbell
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Subject: Re: Kerker Vs. Hin
Scumbag !! (just kidding) ... Now all of us vultures will pick over
the carcass ..Oho ... Cadillac tail lights !!
campbell
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From: Cory Frost [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Kerker Vs. Hindle
Pipe is sold - yours truely:)
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Cory, you've got your hands in just about everything, don't you. :-) More
power to ya!
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Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: Kerker Vs. Hindle
Pipe is sold - yours truely:) I
I think you just wanted some Pi with your coffee. :-)
Bryan
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Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: Kerker Vs. Hindle
I was looking through some old posts and picked out some quotes
Cory has it on his bike now, maybe he can get a shot of it. What Bert
did was change the pairing of the cylinders and tube size different than
what PCW is doing on their system.
Don "Old Man" Smith
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Did Civilito ever market the drag bike exhaust he made up several years ago.
It was made up of 4 equal length pipes?
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Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 13:21:36 -0600 (CST
Yes, 1,400.00 and change. Looks like a piece of crap.
Don "Old Man" Smith
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Pictures of it on my max are at http://www.v-max.com/frost/mymax
When I take it off next (for re-coating) I'll take a shot of the pipe
work
Cory F
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??? (were talking like "with the drive shaft").
campbell
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From: Vern Hathaway [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Kerker Vs. Hindle
I think it's a beautiful piece of work, just not worth $1400
Also never heard of a Dyno sheet on it, could be another &quo
I have 91FT/LB of torque, my 2 cents( 1cent US)
Tyler Pennock,VMOA # 380Eastern-Canada
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Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 3:06 PM
To: V-MAX TECH LIST
Subject: Re: Kerker Vs. Hindle
I think it's a beautiful piece of work, just not worth $1400
Also never heard of a Dyno sheet on it, could be anot
one.
Vern
Bryan Jackson wrote:
Absolutely!
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Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 6:23 PM
Subject: RE: Kerker Vs. Hindle
Maybe not worth it to you, but certainly to others. I just sold my house
over 80 ftlbs from just below 3K to mid 8K ... . torque
curve just like a stocker but a lot higher ... a lot of real world
umph there
campbell
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From: Vern Hathaway [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Kerker Vs. Hindle
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Also never heard of a Dyno sheet
I guess it's much better to line John Gainey's pockets instead.
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From: Vern Hathaway [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: Kerker Vs. Hindle
"One man's trash is another man's tre
Ross,
My best is a 11.282 @ 121.39 with a 1.84 60'. Very shitty 60' time due to a
"DD"
mod! Trying to learn how to launch. Two pro's have confirmed that with a
very low
1.7 60', I should be in the tens. One of my passes, I bogged bad and STILL
trapped
at 120.48 mph with a 1.98 60'. I think to
Stan I agree w/ you. But I have a kerker so I am
biased. More proof is at Terry's site. How many
bikes in the 120+ RWHP club have Kerker's ?? How
many have Hindle's ?? BTW I'll be in the club as
soon as i get off my duff and scan in my dyno runs.
Don't want this to turn into a religious thing but PCW told me that the
Hindle makes more power and that is why they put it on my bike. Maybe
they were referring to Stock Motor.
phil
Hey Doug how ya doing ?
Doug Ullman wrote:
Stan I agree w/ you. But I have a kerker so I am
biased. More
Phil wrote:
Don't want this to turn into a religious thing but PCW told me that the
Hindle makes more power and that is why they put it on my bike. Maybe
they were referring to Stock Motor.
phil
Colo Phil? on the Long Rod? That's funny, Gainey said on my Torrmaster the
Kerker probably
Hi Don,
If I crash my Vmax, I'll be dead. I won't have to worry about replacing it.
The only time I take my max to its real potential, is at the drag strip in a
controlled environment. As for the dyno, the same dyno operator, with nearly
the same conditions. Even at the track, I tried to keep
t
... talk for a few minuets mount up ... ride half a day ... eat
... and ride back .. hmmm I always see stuff that is
interesting but the "ride" dominates the day and "check out time" is
limited ...
campbell
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TC, we just happen to have the quickest strip here in Houston,also for
15.00 you can make as many runs as you can stand. Who knows!
Don "Old Man" Smith
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What times have you run now Stan?
Can you send me the split up, that is 60ft. 330, 660 (time mph) etc.as well as
the conditions (absolute baro. ambient temp and humidity and how far above sea
level are you? if any?)
The Pro tree is easier for me but unfortunately in the Comp Eliminator class I
own ;)
campbell
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From: donald smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Kerker Vs. Hindle
TC, we just happen to have the quickest strip here in Houston,also
for
15.00 you can make as many runs as you can stand. Who knows!
The only thing you need a controlled enviroment and done within 10-15
minutes of
each other. Wet and dry bulb readings, Temp. changes. 10* degrees makes
a difference. The Hindle I have was bought 5 yr's ago. I'll still stay
with Hindle. Also what do you do when you crash a bike with a Kerker and
actually the URL is www.twobros.com
you forgot the 's' :-)
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From: vmax97 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, March 10, 2000 12:57 AM
Subject: Re: KERKER vs Hindle
Go to www.twobro.com All info is there.
Scott VMOA #500
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Subject: Re: KERKER vs Hindle
There is a cheap shot of the Two Brothers pipes at ...
http://www.twobros.com/vmaxfull.html
but I don't think it does the full system justice because they show
the carbon cans with some type of design on them ... blah ... but
anyhow ... follow the link off that page
As far as the sound being unbearable with the 2.5 Kerker, it is definatly
louder than the Hindle but I don't think it is that bad. Stan is not happy
unless he has something to complain about. :^) You wanna go to MB Stan?
Shady Scott
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To
the "list" web page I think there are pictures of some of these
systems and I suspect you have looked at the ones on Ingo's site.
campbell
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Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: KERKER v
Go to www.twobro.com All info is there.
Scott VMOA #500
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Campbell, thanks for the awesome info. do you or any one else know how to get
a hold of two brothers (web page,phone#)? Since my bike is carbon fiber color
IM considering that as a can. by the way I sent in my
To all who care,
I have used a Hindle and now have a Kerker. I wanted to prove which pipe was
better. I have lost track of all the dyno runs that Ive done.
FACT:
1. Kerker makes significant increase in TORQUE over the Hindle. 4Ft Lbs Peak
and more than 15 ft lbs at 3500rpm
2. Kerker makes
All right so far IM sold on a kerker even thou I didn't want to cut off the
center stand two of my friends have the kerker and your correct to say big
block sound for shur. I have one last wrench to throw in the mix, I never
here about holeshot performance does any one have any input on one of
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Date: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 4:29 PM
Subject: [Vmax] KERKER vs Hindle
To all who care,
I have used a Hindle and now have a Kerker. I wanted to prove
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