Dated but usable computer books

2022-01-01 Thread Kevin Thorley
Hello all, I am doing some cleanup of my home office and I have a ton of books that need to go. Most I will be recycling, but a few I thought may be of interest to members of this group. The following titles are all from O'Reilly and are mostly relevant to open source: Programming Perl, Perl

Re: Suggestions for linux mag(s)?

2012-07-17 Thread Kevin Thorley
I don't subscribe to any currently, but I have been picking up Linux Format on occasion and find it to be very good. The fact that they published Paul's letter in a recent issue can be interpreted as a pro or con, depending on your point of view :) They have these at Barnes and Noble if you want

Re: Java - webserver - webapp tool chain recommendations?

2011-10-23 Thread Kevin Thorley
Tomcat is a good start. I'd hook up a REST endpoint for collecting data from the Java application. Whether you want to deliver the front-end this as an application, applet, or WebStart is not really of high importance, IMO. The REST endpoint will provide read and write access through some data

Re: VAGUE social: Oct 18, 6pm, Burlington?

2011-10-12 Thread Kevin Thorley
I'm in, looking forward to it! The farmhouse is accessible as long as we don't go down to the bar while we wait for a table. Also, I gave a talk about Dealer.com's use of MongoDB at the MongoBoston conference last week and would like to get some more mileage out of those slides and do that talk

Re: VT Code Camp: THIS SATURDAY 9/10!

2011-09-09 Thread Kevin Thorley
at 11:42 PM, Josh Sled js...@asynchronous.org wrote: Hey all! VT Code Camp is this Saturday, 9/10! 8-6pm on the UVM campus in Burlington. List members Rene Churchill, Kevin Thorley and Myself are giving talks! Schedule at http://vtcodecamp.org/schedule/ The event is totally free, and there's

Facebook code deployment process

2011-06-15 Thread Kevin Thorley
Here is a link to the video that I was talking about last night. It is almost an hour long, but well worth it, IMO. http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=10100259101684977oid=9445547199comments Facebook Engineering shares a lot of their internal processes on their Facebook page... quite

Re: June social meeting?

2011-06-01 Thread Kevin Thorley
I'm in On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Josh Sled js...@asynchronous.org wrote: A couple of months without a VAGUE meetings, why don't we at least get together for some food and drink? Say … Tuesday Jun 14th? 6pm? American Flatbread in Burlington? Anyone really excited to come, but can't

Re: Reminder: the evolution of VAGUE (meeting Wed Sep 22)

2010-09-22 Thread Kevin Thorley
Rubin, I'm pretty sure that if you decide to attend tonight, then the baby is guaranteed to come tonight. And if the baby is already late, this could be a very popular decision. You'd be a hero! :) On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Rubin Bennett rbenn...@thatitguy.comwrote: Still no baby

Re: the evolution of VAGUE (meeting Wed Sep 22)

2010-09-17 Thread Kevin Thorley
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Sam Hooker s...@noiseplant.com wrote: - Original Message - On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 7:45 AM, Sam Hooker s...@noiseplant.com wrote: This is where I diverge from Marc, slightly. Language is powerful... I have to disagree that we diverge, Sam. :)

Re: September

2010-08-17 Thread Kevin Thorley
How about a trip down toward Waterbury to include more of the Montpelier crowd? Full disclosure: I am driving down to Boston Tuesday evening and this is on my way. I am also looking forward to some upcoming VAGUE meetings, but I think the VT Code Camp should satisfy our (at least, my) need for

Re: Git is good (was Open Source Bill at the Legislator)

2010-01-17 Thread Kevin Thorley
On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 8:08 PM, jonathan d p ferguson j...@sunforge.com wrote: Indeed, I will volunteer for this. When and Where? *I might be able to handle the Where* My last presentation on FOSS and Game Development met with reasonable interest. I can't say that my examples will be

Re: Small Company PBX?

2009-12-10 Thread Kevin Thorley
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Rubin Bennett rbenn...@thatitguy.com wrote: We ended up moving to SIP trunks here (3 people). [...] We took the extra $140 and used it to buy a Digium system and SIP phones for ~$3,000 - in about 20 months it's paid off and we start seeing savings.  We opted

Re: Meeting Dec 15th. Anyone use CAD?

2009-12-08 Thread Kevin Thorley
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Anthony Carrico acarr...@memebeam.org wrote: I'm volunteered to give a QCad demo Dec 15th. QCad is a 2D drawing program for Linux/Unix. I'm no expert, but I have trial and error experience, so this will be a little light. It would be nice if someone would

Re: VAGUE meeting: TOMORROW, Tue Oct 20th, 7pm

2009-10-19 Thread Kevin Thorley
For those of us who may not be able to make it to the presentation, what pub will we be meeting at after? :) Kevin On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Josh Sled js...@asynchronous.org wrote: Hey all, As Paul mentioned, we're having a meeting tomorrow… :) Tuesday the 20th 7pm-~8:30pm PC Lab,

Re: VT Code Camp this Saturday!

2009-09-10 Thread Kevin Thorley
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Josh Sledjs...@asynchronous.org wrote: Kevin Thorley elron8...@gmail.com writes: I'm going to try to make it, but probably not until the afternoon.  I saw the list of topics, but is there a schedule anywhere?  I am more likely to come if I know I will be able

Re: Moment of ecclesiastical brilliance by Vague member...

2009-07-31 Thread Kevin Thorley
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Paul Flintfl...@flint.com wrote: Dear Josh, The venerable editor ed reminds me of the old joke... Q. What is O. J. Simpsons email address? A. slash, slash, escape... Maybe it looses something in the translation to type... Regards, Flint A little bit

Re: Moment of ecclesiastical brilliance by Vague member...

2009-07-29 Thread Kevin Thorley
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Paul Flintfl...@flint.com wrote: Dear Jonathan, I smell a VAGUE mini seminar... You got the balls to try it? Regards, Flint Speaking of VAGUE topics, how about a mini seminar on emacs use? Maybe the same for vi, so as not to start a religous war

Re: expanding jTables

2009-06-20 Thread Kevin Thorley
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Tony Tambasco tambas...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey gang, I'm hoping one of you might be enough of a Swing guru to either help me or point me in the direction of a good resource on this one. I'm developing an application that is going to use a jTable. When the app

Re: [Hijacked thread and WAY OT] Just a quick thanx!

2009-05-21 Thread Kevin Thorley
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Rubin Bennett rbenn...@thatitguy.com wrote: How many musicians are there on this list?  In our parking lot conversation yesterday Sam mentioned that he's a fiddle player too (hope I didn't just unwillingly 'out' you, Sam).  And I first met Zach Chambers at a

Re: HS: So nobody's interested in a shared space?

2009-05-06 Thread Kevin Thorley
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Rion D'Luz riond...@gmail.com wrote: Since the response to my previous post regarding an actual location for a HS was so underwhelming I'm left to conclude that, for the burl contingent at least, HS'ers have settled on the definition of a garage thing.  

Re: Using UNIX Commands can get your stuff seized?

2009-04-17 Thread Kevin Thorley
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Anthony Carrico acarr...@memebeam.org wrote: I would imagine that all along her path to MIT this young woman had been praised by authority figures for her interest in electronics. Her common sense probably tells her about the wisdom of carrying an open frame 9v

Re: Using UNIX Commands can get your stuff seized?

2009-04-17 Thread Kevin Thorley
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Anthony Carrico acarr...@memebeam.org wrote: [...] Kevin, I'd be willing to bet you a pint of Vermont's finest that you have personally rushed into an airport and then discreetly stepped out of line when you realized that you had forgot something, something

Re: Using UNIX Commands can get your stuff seized?

2009-04-16 Thread Kevin Thorley
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 10:06 PM, jonathan d p ferguson j...@sunforge.com wrote: hi. From the strictly outrageous news dept, because Expert users = suspicious users, right? If it isn't Windows, then... it might be... bad! On Friday, EFF and the law firm of Fish and Richardson filed an

Re: Using UNIX Commands can get your stuff seized?

2009-04-16 Thread Kevin Thorley
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Balu Raman brama...@gmail.com wrote: This kind of ignorance is very dangerous. Every now and then, I spend time at Bees Knees Rest in Morrisville, and I used to proudly sport my Ubuntu label on my laptop. The other day, I was casually chatting with the woman

Re: VAGUE Project Suggestion

2009-04-16 Thread Kevin Thorley
2009/4/16 Stanley Brinkerhoff s...@vtwireless.com: I'm not sure if the intended audience of this is beyond just this list, but if it is, I found a couple typos: Purely by definition a Time Bank works by members exchanging services in luau of direct tangible payment.  A Time Bank therefore

Re: VAGUE Project Suggestion

2009-04-16 Thread Kevin Thorley
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Stanley Brinkerhoff s...@vtwireless.com wrote: [...] I am too -- I will admit I am strongest in PHP -- but depending on who gets involved I would love to do it whatever meets the requirements -- I think even RoR is supported on Dreamhost.  I would be a little

Re: Using UNIX Commands can get your stuff seized?

2009-04-16 Thread Kevin Thorley
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Balu Raman brama...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/16/09, Kevin Thorley elron8...@gmail.com wrote: A little common sense goes a long way :) Meaning, forgetting that we were living under George Bush's regime :-) My son and this girl lived in the same house, in MIT

Re: VAGUE Project Suggestion

2009-04-16 Thread Kevin Thorley
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Stanley Brinkerhoff s...@vtwireless.com wrote: I've got a dreamhost account with a fair amount of space that I wouldn't mind providing to the project to get it on its feet.  Right now my content and bandwidth don't come close to approaching the limits set for

Re: VAGUE Project Suggestion

2009-04-15 Thread Kevin Thorley
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Stanley Brinkerhoff s...@vtwireless.com wrote: Cyclos is Java based (can't be inexpensively hosted on a free dreamhost account, or google app engine easily). A goal of our project would be hosting on commodity low cost hosting platforms. Not that I'm pushing

Re: HS: RE: RE: VT Hackers Meetup - Some Input

2009-04-14 Thread Kevin Thorley
[...] Here is Tony's list: Are below groups a listing of .orgs that might want to use the hackerspace for their events, presumably? Or groups for whom some small number might like to hang and do work (or other stuff)? Probably both, but the latter is where I find the greatest interest.

Re: HS: RE: RE: VT Hackers Meetup - Some Input

2009-04-14 Thread Kevin Thorley
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Josh Sled js...@asynchronous.org wrote: Kevin Thorley elron8...@gmail.com writes: Heck, I think jsled is living in the stone age with his use of Emacs to develop Java apps, but he's still an alright guy :) Thanks, buddy. (this message auto-responded

Re: HS: What size U-Haul is needed to hold a hackerspace

2009-04-14 Thread Kevin Thorley
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Rion D'Luz riond...@gmail.com wrote: Hail Vaguers! If you had to up and move it to another place, how big of a truck would be needed? It occurred to me yesterday that space does not necessarily have to be defined by the walls that delineate it. That

Re: coworking

2009-04-13 Thread Kevin Thorley
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Jen Mincar min...@gmavt.net wrote: Hi, My name is Jen Mincar, I'm an IT and Web freelance project manager. I've been a freelance pm in VT for over 9 years. I've been lurking around, reading about your idea of a hackspace on this VAGUE listserv. A couple of

Re: April VAGUE meeting (?)

2009-04-13 Thread Kevin Thorley
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Josh Sled js...@asynchronous.org wrote: Hey, VAGUErants… I've totally dropped the ball in pulling this month's VAGUE meeting together. No topic or venue or notices posted, with only a week to go. It doesn't help that's in part because I'm not going to be

Re: HS: Baker Boulevard Geographic Society

2009-04-10 Thread Kevin Thorley
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Anthony Carrico acarr...@memebeam.org wrote: A few days ago: http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2009/04/07/i-was-thinking-about.html So I've been toying with an idea: Having people over to my house. To sit in my garage. And Do Things. Do what I'm not exactly

Re: VT Hackers Meetup

2009-04-10 Thread Kevin Thorley
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Nick Floersch n...@stone-env.com wrote: Ok... so who has the torch or torches and is running with them? Anyone?.. Anyone?... Bueller? I don't know if we have a torch quite yet. More like a match. Maybe one of those long matches. I think the goal at this

VAGUE meeting topics

2009-04-10 Thread Kevin Thorley
Several of the things that were discussed at the hackerspace council on Tuesday are quite applicable to future VAGUE meetings, so I thought in the middle of all this great hackerspace talk, maybe we could come up with some ideas for VAGUE's summer meetings. - Open source bug fixing party: I

Notes from the Alchemist gathering

2009-04-08 Thread Kevin Thorley
Hello all, sorry I didn't get to post this earlier. Josh was kind enough to take some notes on his eee last night. First and foremost, I wanted to say thanks to all that came out last night. It was great to meet you all and share some beer. Whether or not a physical hackerspace ever

Re: VT Hackers Meetup

2009-04-07 Thread Kevin Thorley
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Stanley Brinkerhoff s...@vtwireless.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Josh Sled js...@asynchronous.org wrote: Kevin Thorley elron8...@gmail.com writes: Tomorrow (Tuesday the 7th) in Waterbury at the Alchemist. Shall we say 6:00? Should I call

Re: VT Hackers Meetup

2009-04-07 Thread Kevin Thorley
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Nick Floersch n...@stone-env.com wrote: Hi all, [...] Really, I wanted to suggest that there be an agenda or something. Face time is good and all, but if the point is to figure out how to make a Hacker Space or Spaces happen, then at least some base level of

VT Hackers Meetup

2009-04-06 Thread Kevin Thorley
Sorry for the unimaginative subject. Someone else can suggest a better name :) Tomorrow (Tuesday the 7th) in Waterbury at the Alchemist. Shall we say 6:00? Should I call in advance and try to reserve a few tables? I'll be driving from Colchester and would be happy to carpool (drive or ride)

Re: VT could use one of these...

2009-04-02 Thread Kevin Thorley
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 10:10 AM, The Anti-Joey thentj...@yahoo.com wrote: yea, i'll meet with ya, kevin. coming from b'ton. where might you be thinkin' to go? aj I don't know Waterbury at all, so I'm open to suggestions. If it turns out thats its just Burlington people, we could stay local.

Re: VT could use one of these...

2009-04-01 Thread Kevin Thorley
Good ideas all. I was just thinking about this again tonight in the car. So, how about a gathering next week. I suggest a bar in the Waterbury or Richmond area, so that neither contingent needs to drive that far. Lets just get together and talk about some projects we have going on, projects

Re: VT could use one of these...

2009-03-31 Thread Kevin Thorley
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Marc Farnum Rendino mvg...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:59 AM, The Anti-Joey thentj...@yahoo.com wrote: i have contributed to grant writing efforts in the past and would be willing to contribute to an effort of this magnitude. it can take a

Re: VT could use one of these...

2009-03-31 Thread Kevin Thorley
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Dan Coutu co...@snowy-owl.com wrote: Marc Farnum Rendino wrote: I'd like to expand on this concept further. One of the most critical problems Vermont faces with regard to ease in growing any business is our geography. In a word, mountains. As has been

Re: VT could use one of these...

2009-03-31 Thread Kevin Thorley
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Marc Farnum Rendino mvg...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Nick Floersch n...@stone-env.com wrote: For all the resources we had, and support from the CS department, trying to steer students away from playing network computer games at any hour

VT could use one of these...

2009-03-30 Thread Kevin Thorley
I just read this Wired article on Hacker Spaces. http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2009/03/hackerspaces.html Sounds pretty cool. I had talked to Josh about a similar idea for teleworkers in the Burlington area, but this goes beyond the work world and seems to be more about fun. Either way, it

Re: VT could use one of these...

2009-03-30 Thread Kevin Thorley
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:15 PM, David Hardy belovedbold...@gmail.com wrote: I also think is a great idea;  who knows what techie breakthrough may come of it.  Also, a ready supply of middle and high school students who would welcome such an enterprise. Maybe there would also be some way of

Re: VT could use one of these...

2009-03-30 Thread Kevin Thorley
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:55 PM, sth s...@noiseplant.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [...] With all due respect to VAGUErants from other regions, of course, is there an Internet-connected venue (doesn't have to be a pub, in the spirit of accommodating the under-21

Re: VT could use one of these...

2009-03-30 Thread Kevin Thorley
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Josh Sled js...@asynchronous.org wrote: Kevin Thorley elron8...@gmail.com writes: So, is anyone interested in pursuing the idea with me? At least to get to the point to see if it would be feasible? I noticed on a PHP-UG thread recently that the VTSDA

Re: VT could use one of these...

2009-03-30 Thread Kevin Thorley
I heard back from Greg (from PHP list and VTSDA). The space that Josh mentioned is primarily for use by individuals/groups that are looking for an actual office to work out of. I somehow don't see a hacker space fitting in there very well :) So, I've spent a lot of time thinking about this

Re: VT could use one of these...

2009-03-30 Thread Kevin Thorley
I forgot the two other ideas I had for the space: LAN Parties (obviously!) Community technical library Kevin

Re: VT could use one of these...

2009-03-30 Thread Kevin Thorley
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:03 PM, H. Kurth Bemis ku...@kurthbemis.com wrote: Not be the downer of the party, but there's a lot more to it then just getting some office space and a net connection. At Foulab we're constantly trying to recruit new members, which in a city the size of Montreal is

Re: FW: VTdotNET April Meeting ... and __Code Camp__??

2009-03-26 Thread Kevin Thorley
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Paul Flint fl...@flint.com wrote: Dear Nick, So much for equal time... I consider .net brain damage, based upon recent experience. I haven't used .net, so I can't comment on it. However, I'll venture a guess that VTSDA is presenting a topic that they have

Re: FW: VTdotNET April Meeting ... and __Code Camp__??

2009-03-26 Thread Kevin Thorley
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Josh Sled js...@asynchronous.org wrote: Kevin Thorley elron8...@gmail.com writes: I haven't used .net, so I can't comment on it.  However, I'll venture a guess that VTSDA is presenting a topic that they have had requests for and/or appeals to a larger number

Re: reminder: Unix UG Mtg: Tue Mar 17 6-8pm: General Meeting

2009-03-17 Thread Kevin Thorley
Josh, I'd be interested in carpooling. I am flexible with departure times. Kevin On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Josh Sled js...@asynchronous.org wrote: Monthly meeting of the Vermont Area Group of Unix Enthusiasts.  A general, open meeting.  Bring something to talk about, ask for

Re: annc: unix UG meeting, Tue 2/17 7-9pm; sipX: an Open Source VOIP PBX

2009-02-17 Thread Kevin Thorley
: SHA1 On Tue, 17 Feb 2009, Kevin Thorley wrote: I plan to leave the Burlington area at 5:30 and can drive 1 or 2 people. Josh, you drove last time, so if you want a ride, let me know. I am flexible on return time as well. Could I get a ride with you and/or Josh? If so, where/when should

Re: annc: unix UG meeting, Tue 2/17 7-9pm; sipX: an Open Source VOIP PBX

2009-02-16 Thread Kevin Thorley
I'd be up for carpooling as well, from Burlington/Colchester On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Josh Sled js...@asynchronous.org wrote: A reminder about our meeting tomorrow night. :) Anyone from the Burlington area looking for a ride? I'm looking to get there a bit early to deal with

Re: Yet another reason to stay away from Windows

2009-01-20 Thread Kevin Thorley
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 1:04 PM, chris yarger cpyar...@gmail.com wrote: With things like this happening in windows why not keep to linux? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01/20/sheffield_conficker/ and http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01/20/mod_malware_still_going_strong/ Or, why not at

Re: NYT Ubuntu Article

2009-01-12 Thread Kevin Thorley
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 12:08 PM, chris yarger cpyar...@gmail.com wrote: so what are we doing about it ? Here is a thought... we are making it harder for ourselves when we bash Windows/Microsoft. Many, many people are comfortable with the Windows environment. And despite all of the reasons

Re: [asterisk-users] Hello Asterisk list. BerkeleyTIP you

2009-01-03 Thread Kevin Thorley
This would be interesting to do for the VAGUE'ers as well. I'd be willing to put some time into setting up a sipX VoIP server for the task if there is interest. Kevin On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Balu Raman brama...@gmail.com wrote: FYI- good way to exercise your ekiga. -br --

Re: Xen, kvm, Bochs

2009-01-01 Thread Kevin Thorley
Its not open source (gasp!) but it is free (as in beer)... give VMWare a shot. Specifically VMWare Server. I've had great luck using this for work, running on both windows and linux. No issues at all with USB ports Kevin On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Warner White warnercwh...@yahoo.com

Verizon/Fairpoint ISP changes

2008-12-27 Thread Kevin Thorley
I have Comcast, so this shouldn't affect me, but does anyone on the list use Verizon for internet access? This looks kinda scary: http://www.rutlandherald.com/article/20081227/NEWS01/812270314

Re: Anyone seeing sites blocked/unavailable over Comcast?

2008-12-24 Thread Kevin Thorley
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 10:41 AM, Forest Bond for...@alittletooquiet.net wrote: Hi, On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 10:26:46AM -0500, Kevin Thorley wrote: So, I suggested they contact their local MS support people and tell them they probably had a virus/malware on the server. They did, and they did

Welcome to the list

2008-12-24 Thread Kevin Thorley
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Warner White warnercwh...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi all-- I'm new to this list and to Ubuntu, and from what I see of your interchanges I probably don't belong on this list, but I can respond to the message from Richard Lawrence. I have Comcast in Burlington and I

Re: Linux Article Feedback

2008-12-23 Thread Kevin Thorley
I should have mentioned this earlier, and maybe its too late... but this may be a good opportunity (under the Help/Support section) to mention that we VAGUE'ers are quite happy to provide local support in the form of install parties, if there is enough interest. Kevin On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at

Re: VT State Budget Cuts... a time to talk F/OSS?

2008-12-07 Thread Kevin Thorley
It is important to remember that training and large scale implementation/deployment of open source solutions is not the only cost. Red Hat, as well as other F/OSS vendors, are hardly giving away their software. There are still licensing costs for commercial software distributions. For many

Re: [DLSLUG-Announce] Ubuntu Server: A Comprehensive Overview - DLSLUG Monthly Meeting - 2008-11-06

2008-11-03 Thread Kevin Thorley
Is anyone from the Burlington area planning on going? I'd like to drive down and check it out and don't mind giving a ride to anyone else thats interested. In fact I'd feel better, environmentally speaking, if I wasn't driving alone. Kevin On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Josh Sled [EMAIL

Re: New to the area

2008-09-24 Thread Kevin Thorley
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Thorley Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 1:58 PM To: VAGUE@LIST.UVM.EDU Subject: New to the area Hello all! I just joined the VAGUE list yesterday (in the middle of the political discussions... perfect) and wanted to take a minute to introduce