Re: [VBox-users] Consistent vdi image during guest runtime?

2013-04-07 Thread Stephan von Krawczynski
On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 14:32:34 -0700 Geoff Nordli geo...@gnaa.net wrote: On 13-04-06 01:46 PM, Stephan von Krawczynski wrote: On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 10:50:13 -0700 Geoff Nordli geo...@gnaa.net wrote: I would say that the vbox snapshots are not the path you want to take for backups. VBox

Re: [VBox-users] Consistent vdi image during guest runtime?

2013-04-07 Thread vbox-users
From: Stephan von Krawczynski [mailto:sk...@ithnet.com] I feel a need to be more precise on the true nature of the question. My intention is not only to have a consistent vdi image, but also to have a consistent backup of the virtual guest. With zfs, you snapshot, and then zfs send to

Re: [VBox-users] Consistent vdi image during guest runtime?

2013-04-07 Thread Geoff Nordli
On 13-04-07 03:00 AM, Stephan von Krawczynski wrote: On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 14:32:34 -0700 Geoff Nordli geo...@gnaa.net wrote: On 13-04-06 01:46 PM, Stephan von Krawczynski wrote: On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 10:50:13 -0700 Geoff Nordli geo...@gnaa.net wrote: I would say that the vbox snapshots

Re: [VBox-users] Consistent vdi image during guest runtime?

2013-04-06 Thread Stephan von Krawczynski
On Fri, 05 Apr 2013 12:08:45 -0700 Geoff Nordli geo...@gnaa.net wrote: On 13-04-05 07:02 AM, vbox-users wrote: From: Stephan von Krawczynski [mailto:sk...@ithnet.com] I use zfs (or btrfs) storage, which handles the storage snapshots. If I ever need to rollback to a point in time

Re: [VBox-users] Consistent vdi image during guest runtime?

2013-04-06 Thread Geoff Nordli
On 13-04-06 08:36 AM, Stephan von Krawczynski wrote: Hi all, I feel a need to be more precise on the true nature of the question. My intention is not only to have a consistent vdi image, but also to have a consistent backup of the virtual guest. I talked to a friend using VM*are and how he

Re: [VBox-users] Consistent vdi image during guest runtime?

2013-04-06 Thread Geoff Nordli
On 13-04-06 10:50 AM, Geoff Nordli wrote: On 13-04-06 08:36 AM, Stephan von Krawczynski wrote: Hi all, I feel a need to be more precise on the true nature of the question. My intention is not only to have a consistent vdi image, but also to have a consistent backup of the virtual guest. I

Re: [VBox-users] Consistent vdi image during guest runtime?

2013-04-06 Thread Stephan von Krawczynski
On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 10:50:13 -0700 Geoff Nordli geo...@gnaa.net wrote: I would say that the vbox snapshots are not the path you want to take for backups. VBox snapshots are great when experimenting with software, or creating a library using a base images. If you do a VBox snapshot

Re: [VBox-users] Consistent vdi image during guest runtime?

2013-04-06 Thread Geoff Nordli
On 13-04-06 01:46 PM, Stephan von Krawczynski wrote: On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 10:50:13 -0700 Geoff Nordli geo...@gnaa.net wrote: I would say that the vbox snapshots are not the path you want to take for backups. VBox snapshots are great when experimenting with software, or creating a library

Re: [VBox-users] Consistent vdi image during guest runtime?

2013-04-05 Thread vbox-users
From: Gregory Nowak [mailto:g...@gregn.net] Since you're running on a gnu/linux host, I haven't seen mention of lvm yet. Put your vdi files on an lvm volume, and take lvm snapshots while the guest keeps running via cron for example. LVM snapshots are crap. You have to pre-allocate all the

Re: [VBox-users] Consistent vdi image during guest runtime?

2013-04-05 Thread vbox-users
From: Stephan von Krawczynski [mailto:sk...@ithnet.com] I use zfs (or btrfs) storage, which handles the storage snapshots. If I ever need to rollback to a point in time snapshot, the guest machine will boot up, think it's rebooting after an unexpected power loss. That is no real

Re: [VBox-users] Consistent vdi image during guest runtime?

2013-04-05 Thread Geoff Nordli
On 13-04-05 07:02 AM, vbox-users wrote: From: Stephan von Krawczynski [mailto:sk...@ithnet.com] I use zfs (or btrfs) storage, which handles the storage snapshots. If I ever need to rollback to a point in time snapshot, the guest machine will boot up, think it's rebooting after an

Re: [VBox-users] Consistent vdi image during guest runtime?

2013-04-04 Thread vbox-users
From: Stephan von Krawczynski [mailto:sk...@ithnet.com] does anybody have a strategy (which snapshots or the like) to create a consistent vdi image of a running guest system without interacting with the guest or offlining it? I use zfs (or btrfs) storage, which handles the storage

Re: [VBox-users] Consistent vdi image during guest runtime?

2013-04-04 Thread Stephan von Krawczynski
On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 12:09:14 + vbox-users vbox-us...@clevertrove.com wrote: From: Stephan von Krawczynski [mailto:sk...@ithnet.com] does anybody have a strategy (which snapshots or the like) to create a consistent vdi image of a running guest system without interacting with the

Re: [VBox-users] Consistent vdi image during guest runtime?

2013-04-04 Thread Kees Nuyt
On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 15:13:20 +0200, you wrote: On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 12:09:14 + vbox-users vbox-us...@clevertrove.com wrote: From: Stephan von Krawczynski [mailto:sk...@ithnet.com] does anybody have a strategy (which snapshots or the like) to create a consistent vdi image of a running

Re: [VBox-users] Consistent vdi image during guest runtime?

2013-04-04 Thread Stephan von Krawczynski
On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 23:35:01 +0200 Kees Nuyt k.n...@zonnet.nl wrote: On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 15:13:20 +0200, you wrote: On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 12:09:14 + vbox-users vbox-us...@clevertrove.com wrote: From: Stephan von Krawczynski [mailto:sk...@ithnet.com] does anybody have a strategy

Re: [VBox-users] Consistent vdi image during guest runtime?

2013-04-04 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Thu, Apr 04, 2013 at 11:07:59AM +0200, Stephan von Krawczynski wrote: Hello all, does anybody have a strategy (which snapshots or the like) to create a consistent vdi image of a running guest system without interacting with the guest or offlining it? Since you're running on a gnu/linux