RE: [vchkpw] Farewell

2007-05-17 Thread Tren Blackburn
 -Original Message-
 From: Tom Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 12:35 PM
 To: vchkpw@inter7.com
 Subject: Re: [vchkpw] Farewell
 
 On May 14, 2007, at 9:58 PM, Michael Bowe wrote:
  Tom Collins even popped in one day to say hello when he was on
  holidays in my neck of the woods (Australia). Was great to meet him
  in person.
 
 And it was great to meet Michael as well.  Those of you who weren't
 using vpopmail before 2003 probably don't realize how many
 improvements were made back in the 5.3 days.  Michael helped out
 considerably with documentation and making code changes to prevent
 buffer overflows.  Take a look a the ChangeLog entries from 5.3.20 to
 5.4.0 to get an idea of how much Michael helped me in improving
 vpopmail.


LOL, I still remember back in the v3 and v4 days.  :)  It's incredible
the changes that have been made since the late 90's when I started using
qmail and vpopmail.  Almost a decade later and I'm still using it...I've
been hearing more and more admins moving to Postfix...what benefits does
it offer over qmail?  I'm not looking to start a flame-war.  I'm just
asking for information.  And apparently there are no tools like vpopmail
for Postfix...so would it make sense to fork the vpopmail project to
Postfix?  Or is that not a possibility?

 Thanks for your help Michael, and if you find a suitable replacement
 for vpopmail that works with postfix, let us know about it!
 

As I said, not looking for a flame war.  I've been using qmail for most
almost a decade now and it's always worked well, but I'm finding more
and more systems like dSPAM integrate easily into things like Postfix,
but with qmail I had to do a lot of work integrating it properly (which
I've done without the use of simscan...and works quite nicely)

--

Tren Blackburn
EOTNetworks



Re: [vchkpw] Farewell

2007-05-15 Thread Otto Rodusek (AP-SGP)

Hi Micheal,

Best of luck on your new endeavors. Also thanks for vpopmail - been 
using it for many years and have implemented 40+ sites with 
qmail+vpopmail - great suite for using virtual and multiple accounts. 
Best of luck. Rgds. Otto..


Michael Bowe wrote:

I thought I would drop a note to the list to say farewell.

Many years ago I used to own an ISP that used vpopmail+MySQL for all 
our email hosting.


I wrote a mailserver guide which became quite popular. ( It is 
currently hosted at  
http://www.bowe.id.au/michael/isp/webmail-server.htm )


As I found vpopmail bugs or limitations I submitted patches to the 
developers. When vpopmail moved to sourceforge, I was given full 
developer access. I then spent a fair bit of time trying to improve 
the included documentation. I cleaned up and documented a lot of the 
source code. I also remember having fun cleaning up the configure script.


Tom Collins even popped in one day to say hello when he was on 
holidays in my neck of the woods (Australia). Was great to meet him in 
person.


My vpopmail contributions have dropped away in recent years, because 
my ISP was bought by a larger company and I went on to work for them. 
They used Postfix not vpopmail.


I still tinkered with vpopmail a bit, because I had built many small 
vpopmail servers for customers along the way


Now I am about to switch jobs and work for a new ISP, and they also 
use Postfix. So guess this new job will cut my final ties to vpopmail.


There's no doubt in my mind that Postfix kicks some serious qmail 
butt. However even as a Postfix fan, I am the first to admit that 
vpopmail is a great set of tools for vmail style hosting. Its a shame 
that qmail never progressed past v1.03. Back in those days we didnt 
even have spam or virus problems, let alone need to worry about 
SMTP-AUTH, TLS etc.


I'll be unsubscribing from this list a few days time. I wanted to say 
thanks to all the developers who have contributed to vpopmail along 
the way. And also a big thankyou to people who used by mailserver 
guide and sent me feedback over the years.


Michael.




Re: [vchkpw] Farewell

2007-05-15 Thread Tom Collins

On May 14, 2007, at 9:58 PM, Michael Bowe wrote:
Tom Collins even popped in one day to say hello when he was on  
holidays in my neck of the woods (Australia). Was great to meet him  
in person.


And it was great to meet Michael as well.  Those of you who weren't  
using vpopmail before 2003 probably don't realize how many  
improvements were made back in the 5.3 days.  Michael helped out  
considerably with documentation and making code changes to prevent  
buffer overflows.  Take a look a the ChangeLog entries from 5.3.20 to  
5.4.0 to get an idea of how much Michael helped me in improving  
vpopmail.


Thanks for your help Michael, and if you find a suitable replacement  
for vpopmail that works with postfix, let us know about it!


--
Tom Collins  -  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Vpopmail - virtual domains for qmail: http://vpopmail.sf.net/
QmailAdmin - web interface for Vpopmail: http://qmailadmin.sf.net/




Re: [vchkpw] Farewell

2007-05-15 Thread Dave Richardson

Michael,
Best of luck, perhaps keep us posted where you've landed...?
Take care,
Dave.

Michael Bowe wrote:

I thought I would drop a note to the list to say farewell.

Many years ago I used to own an ISP that used vpopmail+MySQL for all 
our email hosting.


I wrote a mailserver guide which became quite popular. ( It is 
currently hosted at  
http://www.bowe.id.au/michael/isp/webmail-server.htm )


As I found vpopmail bugs or limitations I submitted patches to the 
developers. When vpopmail moved to sourceforge, I was given full 
developer access. I then spent a fair bit of time trying to improve 
the included documentation. I cleaned up and documented a lot of the 
source code. I also remember having fun cleaning up the configure script.


Tom Collins even popped in one day to say hello when he was on 
holidays in my neck of the woods (Australia). Was great to meet him in 
person.


My vpopmail contributions have dropped away in recent years, because 
my ISP was bought by a larger company and I went on to work for them. 
They used Postfix not vpopmail.


I still tinkered with vpopmail a bit, because I had built many small 
vpopmail servers for customers along the way


Now I am about to switch jobs and work for a new ISP, and they also 
use Postfix. So guess this new job will cut my final ties to vpopmail.


There's no doubt in my mind that Postfix kicks some serious qmail 
butt. However even as a Postfix fan, I am the first to admit that 
vpopmail is a great set of tools for vmail style hosting. Its a shame 
that qmail never progressed past v1.03. Back in those days we didnt 
even have spam or virus problems, let alone need to worry about 
SMTP-AUTH, TLS etc.


I'll be unsubscribing from this list a few days time. I wanted to say 
thanks to all the developers who have contributed to vpopmail along 
the way. And also a big thankyou to people who used by mailserver 
guide and sent me feedback over the years.


Michael.


[vchkpw] Farewell

2007-05-14 Thread Michael Bowe

I thought I would drop a note to the list to say farewell.

Many years ago I used to own an ISP that used vpopmail+MySQL for all our 
email hosting.


I wrote a mailserver guide which became quite popular. ( It is currently 
hosted at  http://www.bowe.id.au/michael/isp/webmail-server.htm )


As I found vpopmail bugs or limitations I submitted patches to the 
developers. When vpopmail moved to sourceforge, I was given full developer 
access. I then spent a fair bit of time trying to improve the included 
documentation. I cleaned up and documented a lot of the source code. I also 
remember having fun cleaning up the configure script.


Tom Collins even popped in one day to say hello when he was on holidays in 
my neck of the woods (Australia). Was great to meet him in person.


My vpopmail contributions have dropped away in recent years, because my ISP 
was bought by a larger company and I went on to work for them. They used 
Postfix not vpopmail.


I still tinkered with vpopmail a bit, because I had built many small 
vpopmail servers for customers along the way


Now I am about to switch jobs and work for a new ISP, and they also use 
Postfix. So guess this new job will cut my final ties to vpopmail.


There's no doubt in my mind that Postfix kicks some serious qmail butt. 
However even as a Postfix fan, I am the first to admit that vpopmail is a 
great set of tools for vmail style hosting. Its a shame that qmail never 
progressed past v1.03. Back in those days we didnt even have spam or virus 
problems, let alone need to worry about SMTP-AUTH, TLS etc.


I'll be unsubscribing from this list a few days time. I wanted to say thanks 
to all the developers who have contributed to vpopmail along the way. And 
also a big thankyou to people who used by mailserver guide and sent me 
feedback over the years.


Michael. 



Re: [vchkpw] Farewell

2007-05-14 Thread Shane Chrisp
On Tue, 2007-05-15 at 14:58 +1000, Michael Bowe wrote:

 ...
 I'll be unsubscribing from this list a few days time. I wanted to say thanks 
 to all the developers who have contributed to vpopmail along the way. And 
 also a big thankyou to people who used by mailserver guide and sent me 
 feedback over the years.
 
 Michael. 
 

Best of luck in the new job Michael and thanks for your work on the
project over the years. 

cheers
Shane (Perth, W.A.)



RE: [vchkpw] Farewell

2007-05-14 Thread Tren Blackburn
 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Bowe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 9:58 PM
 To: vchkpw@inter7.com
 Subject: [vchkpw] Farewell
 
 I thought I would drop a note to the list to say farewell.
 
 Many years ago I used to own an ISP that used vpopmail+MySQL for all
 our
 email hosting.
 
 I wrote a mailserver guide which became quite popular. ( It is
 currently
 hosted at  http://www.bowe.id.au/michael/isp/webmail-server.htm )
 
 As I found vpopmail bugs or limitations I submitted patches to the
 developers. When vpopmail moved to sourceforge, I was given full
 developer
 access. I then spent a fair bit of time trying to improve the included
 documentation. I cleaned up and documented a lot of the source code. I
 also
 remember having fun cleaning up the configure script.
 
 Tom Collins even popped in one day to say hello when he was on
holidays
 in
 my neck of the woods (Australia). Was great to meet him in person.
 
 My vpopmail contributions have dropped away in recent years, because
my
 ISP
 was bought by a larger company and I went on to work for them. They
 used
 Postfix not vpopmail.
 
 I still tinkered with vpopmail a bit, because I had built many small
 vpopmail servers for customers along the way
 
 Now I am about to switch jobs and work for a new ISP, and they also
use
 Postfix. So guess this new job will cut my final ties to vpopmail.
 
 There's no doubt in my mind that Postfix kicks some serious qmail
butt.
 However even as a Postfix fan, I am the first to admit that vpopmail
is
 a
 great set of tools for vmail style hosting. Its a shame that qmail
 never
 progressed past v1.03. Back in those days we didnt even have spam or
 virus
 problems, let alone need to worry about SMTP-AUTH, TLS etc.
 
 I'll be unsubscribing from this list a few days time. I wanted to say
 thanks
 to all the developers who have contributed to vpopmail along the way.
 And
 also a big thankyou to people who used by mailserver guide and sent me
 feedback over the years.
 
 Michael.

Thank you for all you've done for the vpopmail community over the years.

I'm sorry to see you go, but glad it's for bigger and better things.

Warmest Regards and Best wishes,

Tren Blackburn
EOTNetworks
Vancouver, Canada