[videoblogging] Re: YouTube sued for 1 billion dollars.....(Insert doctor evil laugh)

2007-03-13 Thread Shawn Carpenter
Maybe if networks like MTV and Comedy Central put out more then 1 or 2 interesting shows instead of some of the crap they are trying to pass off as TV more people would be interested in watching them on television instead of posting and viewing their good clips online. If the big network execs

Re: [videoblogging] Re: YouTube sued for 1 billion dollars.....(Insert doctor evil laugh)

2007-03-13 Thread sull
That is always an accurate point to make. But its besides the point. And You better believe EVERY content company will be entering the net with VOD services. Whether it be on Joost or one of the other upcoming VideoOnDemand services that wil be unleashed this year. TV is coming to the net.

Re: [videoblogging] Re: YouTube sued for 1 billion dollars.....(Insert doctor evil laugh)

2007-03-13 Thread J. Rhett Aultman
I don't follow your logic. You say that if they put out more good shows, we would watch them on TV instead of viewing their good clips online. If we're already getting the good stuff online, by this logic, wouldn't making a good show just mean it would end up being posted and viewed online? --

Re: [videoblogging] Re: YouTube sued for 1 billion dollars.....(Insert doctor evil laugh)

2007-03-13 Thread frank
If the viewers are there, the networks will come. There are still very, very large questions regarding how advertising is going to work. This will require them to make huge changes in their ad sales staffs, etc. Until then, litigation appears to be their answer - we all know that story, aka the

Re: [videoblogging] Re: YouTube sued for 1 billion dollars.....(Insert doctor evil laugh)

2007-03-13 Thread sull
I think the point of what he said was that if a channel was better than just a few shows, you might care a bit less about wanting video on demand. but since TV in general sucks and for the most part the traditional programming model is still in full effect... people turn to where they CAN get

Re: [videoblogging] Re: YouTube sued for 1 billion dollars.....(Insert doctor evil laugh)

2007-03-13 Thread sull
well the viewers are already here... on the net. so the content would be coming to the viewers just as much or more so than the viewers coming to the content... i think channels on the net will eventually work like channels on TV. the idea of one BIG site like a youtube to contain all content

Re: [videoblogging] Re: YouTube sued for 1 billion dollars.....(Insert doctor evil laugh)

2007-03-13 Thread Adam Quirk, Wreck Salvage
Sports are helping keep big cable/sat companies afloat I think. If it weren't for DirecTV's awesome sports packages like Sunday Ticket and the NCAA College Hoops package, TV would be completely irrelevant for me. I'm on Blockbuster's movie thing (great), and I can watch all the [adult swim] I

[videoblogging] Re: YouTube sued for 1 billion dollars.....(Insert doctor evil laugh)

2007-03-13 Thread Heath
Well personaly I don't think all traditional TV sucks but I do agree the model is changing. I got a DVR just over a month ago and I has transformed how I watch TV. I rarely watch a show when it is scheduled, I watch when I want, how I want and in glorious HDyes there are some shows that

[videoblogging] Re: YouTube sued for 1 billion dollars.....(Insert doctor evil laugh)

2007-03-13 Thread Heath
The sports packages are more of a problem than a help. IMO, they are some of the prime reasons for the rate hikes that are going on, that and all these exclusive contracts which limit YOUR choice and force you to pay out the nose. I love sports as much as the next guy but what is happening is

Re: [videoblogging] Re: YouTube sued for 1 billion dollars.....(Insert doctor evil laugh)

2007-03-13 Thread Jan McLaughlin
That and the fact that when you deploy citizen entertainment in your life, you actually get to hang out with your celebrity heroes in person. Why would I not want that kind of excitement in my life? I don't want to hang out with those capable of attracting millions, either. Those that attract a

Re: [videoblogging] Re: YouTube sued for 1 billion dollars.....(Insert doctor evil laugh)

2007-03-13 Thread J. Rhett Aultman
The turn on, tune in, and put your feet on the ottoman model of television marketing has been in decline since the invention of the first remote control. Network loyalty has repeatedly been shown to be a function largely of limiting viewer choice. The final nail in the coffin of such a model

Re: [videoblogging] Re: YouTube sued for 1 billion dollars.....(Insert doctor evil laugh)

2007-03-13 Thread J. Rhett Aultman
I wouldn't be so sure. As a lacrosse fan, the best way for me to see the games I want is via the Internet. -- Rhett. http://www.weatherlight.com/freetime I don't see sports moving to the net anytime soon though, because of the sheer amount of live production work it takes to make a successful

[videoblogging] Re: YouTube sued for 1 billion dollars.....(Insert doctor evil laugh)

2007-03-13 Thread Steve Watkins
Well Viacom have said: There is no question that YouTube and Google are continuing to take the fruit of our efforts without permission and destroying enormous value in the process. This is value that rightfully belongs to the writers, directors and talent who create it and companies like Viacom

[videoblogging] Re: YouTube sued for 1 billion dollars.....(Insert doctor evil laugh)

2007-03-13 Thread Bill Cammack
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well Viacom have said: There is no question that YouTube and Google are continuing to take the fruit of our efforts without permission and destroying enormous value in the process. This is value that rightfully

[videoblogging] Re: YouTube sued for 1 billion dollars.....(Insert doctor evil laugh)

2007-03-13 Thread Heath
That's not entirely true, YT itself is not uploading the clips, the users are. Now I understand it's a fine line and I am not defending the practice of copyrighted clips on YT. But they do remove clips once they have been notified, that is a fact. Now does it stop people from uploading

[videoblogging] Re: YouTube sued for 1 billion dollars.....(Insert doctor evil laugh)

2007-03-13 Thread Steve Watkins
Well yes, using the comparison to video services that re-show vloggers stuff without honouring the license, youtube would be comparable to a site where the users submitted peoples rss feeds, as opposed to the site themselves deliberately going out and selecting content to put on their site without

Re: [videoblogging] Re: YouTube sued for 1 billion dollars.....(Insert doctor evil laugh)

2007-03-13 Thread sull
First of all, remember the name.. YOUTUBE. remember the tagline... BROADCAST YOURSELF. Thats what their focus was supposed to be on. The User Generated Content. But they realized, or maybe knew all along, that a more lucrative goal would be to become TV for the net. And as the inevitable

[videoblogging] Re: YouTube sued for 1 billion dollars.....(Insert doctor evil laugh)

2007-03-13 Thread Bill Cammack
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First of all, remember the name.. YOUTUBE. remember the tagline... BROADCAST YOURSELF. Thats what their focus was supposed to be on. The User Generated Content. Absolutely. But they realized, or maybe knew all along,

[videoblogging] Re: YouTube sued for 1 billion dollars.....(Insert doctor evil laugh)

2007-03-13 Thread Heath
As far as I know no site, none can completly stop pirated content from being uploaded And again I am not defending the practice of allowing such content. I personaly think a BILLION dollars is streching it a bit. And I respectfuly disagree and think this could have an impact on all

[videoblogging] Re: YouTube sued for 1 billion dollars.....(Insert doctor evil laugh)

2007-03-13 Thread Gena
This is only going to make a pack of lawyers very happy. Viacom has the legal right to protect their property. They have now chosen to do so. This can't be disputed or parsed into anything but what it is - they own the content and want to harvest the profits from said product. I think it is a

[videoblogging] Re: YouTube sued for 1 billion dollars.....(Insert doctor evil laugh)

2007-03-13 Thread Heath
I'm not sure how many times I can say this but I am not defending the uploading of copyrighted worksThe way the current law reads, the DMCA (and yes the law sucks but for right now it's still the law) the way the law reads is if they take down the material once they are notified they are

[videoblogging] Re: YouTube sued for 1 billion dollars.....(Insert doctor evil laugh)

2007-03-13 Thread Heath
Just as an aside I was not trying to be flip or dismiss the legit claim or frustration for YT making a ton of money off of people's legit content, but they did just announce a program to start paying content creaters did they not? Heath http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com --- In

[videoblogging] Re: YouTube sued for 1 billion dollars.....(Insert doctor evil laugh)

2007-03-13 Thread Bill Cammack
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure how many times I can say this but I am not defending the uploading of copyrighted worksThe way the current law reads, the DMCA (and yes the law sucks but for right now it's still the law) the way the law