Well to date I have only read half the introduction.
As far as I can see from a quick look, the chords for "Tirinto mio" are taken from Stefani and a little known book by Millioni (not the guitar tutors of 1627) which includes lyrics only with alfabeto. He is comparing the two. But until I have read it all I must reserve judgement. Monica ----- Original Message ----- From: [1]Martyn Hodgson To: [2]Monica Hall Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:11 AM Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: alfabeto As you said, I just had to be patient. But at 311 pages it took 15mins whereas the facsimile of three Lully operas (at around 200) I did a short time before only took 3! It certainly looks interesting with some good pics but from a brief scan I can't see if it tells us much that isn't already generally acknowledged. But it's good to have such a seemingly comprhensive (?) work. I might see if some of the automatic translators come up with something which can be used as a basis for undertanding the text. He seems to start with intabulations for lute of vocal compositions - I suppose making some sort of link with the invention of alfabeto as a convenient shorthand but , since my French is not good, I can't be sure. However, here he does miss an important element : he makes no mention of the Moulinie guitar settings (at least nothing in the Figs or index) which, in my view, present a better case for the invention of a shorthand since Moulinie has often to intabulate succesive identical chords many times and such an example would clearly well illustrate the advantages of a shorthand notation to represent common chords (and to include strum direction signs). I've not been able to wade through much of it but in my quick skim picked out a few things which seem to me debatable (tho he might explain all somewhere else). For example : Fig. Cxxix : Transcription de << Tirinto mio >> de Stefani 1620, p. 4, avec les accords de Millioni 1627. In this he puts in the chords (how/from which source? ) and compares with a contemporary guitar alfabeto version I think (?) to show that the alfabeto chords don't strictly follow every twist and turn of the harmony. But I disagree with the chords he chooses - I suspect that even at this date embryonic tonalism would have meant the second chord he thinks of as Am would have probably been a first inversion F (leading to the following Bb chord). Though my French is so rusty that I can't be sure this isn't covered. But a work worthy of some effort on my part I think............. maybe for dark winter evenings Thanks for passing it on Martyn --- On Sat, 2/7/11, Monica Hall <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: From: Monica Hall <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: alfabeto To: "Vihuelalist" <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> Date: Saturday, 2 July, 2011, 17:04 I recieved this information from Aidan O'Donnell about his dissertation on alfabeto songs if anyone is interested. Haven't read myself yet. It is in French. Regards Monica Just a quick email to say that my alfabeto PhD is online at > > [3]http://athirdfloorproduction.com/alfabeto/ > > It's in French, but there's a good deal on concordances and quite a > few sources in images. To get on or off this list see list information at [4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk 2. mailto:mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk 3. http://athirdfloorproduction.com/alfabeto/ 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html