[VIHUELA] Re: videos

2008-07-11 Thread howard posner
On Jul 11, 2008, at 10:51 AM, Stuart Walsh wrote: Anyway - some amateur performances on a guitar which has absolutely nothing to give to the world - of some Foscarini pieces (possibly a bit unexpected): I clicked on the link and got a message that This is a private video, accompanied

[VIHUELA] Re: videos

2008-07-11 Thread howard posner
On Jul 11, 2008, at 11:36 AM, Stuart Walsh wrote: Really? this: http://www.vimeo.com/1322063 The same My performance is not so good but is it really bad enough to be an obscenity? That's what inquiring minds want to know I joined vimeo following a link put up by Rob. I thought

[VIHUELA] Re: Sanz and the High G

2008-04-25 Thread howard posner
On Apr 25, 2008, at 7:16 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote: cannot we assume that, like with lutes, the first course of guitars were pitched as high (or at least not too far off) as they co= uld reasonably bear. You can only assume this if you also assume the lack of a high octave on the

[VIHUELA] Re: Sanz and the High G

2008-04-24 Thread howard posner
On Apr 24, 2008, at 3:36 PM, Stuart Walsh wrote: Monica's position is rather like mysterianism in the philosophy of mind. It's all just one big mystery: the stringing , the tuning, the performance practice of the seventeenth century guitarists- the existing evidence points anywhere

[VIHUELA] Re: Castaldi

2007-09-11 Thread howard posner
On Sep 11, 2007, at 3:12 AM, Monica Hall wrote: I'm reviewing a CD of music by Castaldi. It has on it an extaordinary piece - a setting of a letter addressed by a Jewish women, Heleazaria, to the Emperor Tito Vespasiano during the Seige of Jerusalem which occurred in about 70 A.D. In

[VIHUELA] Re: Castaldi

2007-09-11 Thread howard posner
It is indeed the Laurens/Dumestre recording. Have you heard it. Seguro que si. My review of it ran in the May 2004 LSA Quarterly. That's why I was casting about asking the same questions you're asking now. -- To get on or off this list see list information at

[VIHUELA] Re: Pujol vihuela recording

2006-04-20 Thread Howard Posner
LGS-Europe wrote: I have just bought a cd of the 16 july1954 concert in Madrid of Rosa Barbany, soprano, and Emilio Pujol on vihuela (!) in a programme of Spanish songs. Terrible sound quality, If this was a live concert, Pujol may simply have been pushing hard to play louder and become

[VIHUELA] Re: La Cancion del Emperador

2006-04-16 Thread Howard Posner
On Sunday, Apr 16, 2006, at 14:06 America/Los_Angeles, Arto Wikla wrote: I woud say Carlos V. i.e. Charles V of the Holy Roman Empire, or Chuck Five as his close friends called him. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[VIHUELA] Re: La Cancion del Emperador

2006-04-16 Thread Howard Posner
David Rastall wrote: Also Chuck One of Spain, right? ( No doubt called that by a different set of close friends!) Son of Juana la Loca and father of Phillip II. The same. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[VIHUELA] Re: Mean tone temperament

2006-03-25 Thread Howard Posner
Jon Murphy wrote: What are distant keys? Keys that have few notes in common with the home key. A piece in C major will typically modulate to G or F or minor, but gets far afield if it drifts into A-flat or F-sharp, and in any equal temperament those sections will sound dissonant and

[VIHUELA] Re: melancholy and the vihuela

2005-11-30 Thread Howard Posner
Craig Allen wrote: But remember that Dowland too wrote music that if not actually melancholy was downright morose. If he were alive today he'd be taking anti-depressants and his doctors would have him on a suicide watch. No more than they would call Quentin Tarantino a homicidal maniac.

[VIHUELA] Re: What is the historical vihuela?

2005-11-11 Thread Howard Posner
Monica Hall wrote: This is what puzzles me a bit as I can't see the advantage of having a long string length for accompanying. Interesting that you're saying this a few days after Benjamin Narvey posted Linda Sayce's article arguing, in essence, that theorbos with short string lengths

[VIHUELA] Re: What is the historical vihuela?

2005-11-05 Thread Howard Posner
Monica Hall wrote: The string length however is only really relevant in so far as this has any bearing on it's authenticity. I would question whether a female player, who probably didn't have the technical ability of Rolf Lislevand, would have been able to play anything meaningful on

[VIHUELA] Re: What is the historical vihuela?

2005-11-03 Thread Howard Posner
Monica Hall wrote: On reflection, as a member of the fair sex I am a bit sceptical about this (as with everthing else!).I would find it impossible to play even the simplest of music on an instrument with a string length of 72.7. You need to have a chat with Lynda Sayce. To get on

[VIHUELA] Re: What is the hysterical vihuela?

2005-11-03 Thread Howard Posner
Monica Hall wrote: I can't see either why there should be any advantage in having a longer string length when accompanying, unless it is to tune to a lower pitch. This is not necessary if you are a member of the fair sex accompanying yourself either. But an alto singing a song written

[VIHUELA] Re: What is the historical vihuela?

2005-11-02 Thread Howard Posner
bill kilpatrick wrote: do you mean to infer that repertoire is the deciding factor? The word you're looking for is imply, and I'd say the answer to your question is no. Garry was not implying, but rather assuming, that an instrument useless for playing vihuela music is not a vihuela. That

[VIHUELA] Re: What is the historical vihuela?

2005-11-02 Thread Howard Posner
bill kilpatrick wrote: i don't think i'll ever get you to acknowledge the historic validity of my cute little chordaphone of choice Nobody here has said that the charango doesn't have historical validity, although we do have one crank on the list who seems to have such a low opinion of

[VIHUELA] Re: What is the historical vihuela?

2005-11-02 Thread Howard Posner
bill kilpatrick wrote: playing this music on a charango - or ukulele if it comes to that - is not useless. nor are single voice melodies from more complex compositions played on whatever comes to hand. My point is that if you can't play vihuela music on it, it's not a vihuela. This is

[VIHUELA] Re: What is the historical vihuela?

2005-11-02 Thread Howard Posner
bill kilpatrick wrote: crank? ... pummeling the baroque guitar supporters? ... wuffing up the renaissance guitar list? ... crank, (something) and wanton wiles? ... calm down. I'm perfectly calm, I assure you. I said you were a crank because you fit the dictionary definition. The other

[VIHUELA] Re: What is the historical vihuela?

2005-10-26 Thread Howard Posner
Monica Hall wrote: I think we need to be very cautious about all the illustrations in the vihuela books as the engravers are often incompetant and unreliable, Or not paid enough to make it worthwhile or just not interested in putting a lot of accuracy and detail into a tiny picture. The

[VIHUELA] Re: rain ...

2005-10-22 Thread Howard Posner
On Saturday, Oct 22, 2005, at 03:24 America/Los_Angeles, bill kilpatrick wrote: guitar history properly begins with the appearance of the first written score for the instrument. If you said this about the lute, you'd be wrong by centuries. If you said it about most other instruments, you'd

[VIHUELA] Re: [VIHUELA] Re: [VIHUELA] style brisé

2005-10-10 Thread Howard Posner
bill kilpatrick wrote: unless i have it completely wrong, i play oud using style brisÈ - alternating tremolo, sometimes in continuo, between individual notes which together comprise a simple chord (in the case of the oud) made with two notes. I'm not sure what you're trying to say, but

[VIHUELA] Re: jarana or xarano

2005-09-19 Thread Howard Posner
Eugene C. Braig IV wrote: An utter lack of corroboration in extant European instruments. I don't know why people would feel obliged to justify the worth of American instruments by insisting they are their European parallels/conceptual ancestors. I still don't understand why this debate goes

[VIHUELA] Luz y Norte

2005-09-17 Thread Howard Posner
RTHUR NESS wrote: I still do not understand its significance as the title of a guitar treatise Light [or Lantern] and North Star, as in a guide in the dark. HP To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

Re: Dedillo/redobles

2005-06-09 Thread Howard Posner
bill kilpatrick wrote: is dedillo the same as redobles - fast, single line passage(s)? No. Dedillo is a way of playing passages of that sort using only the index finger, presumably in the manner of a plectrum. It's occasionally marked in vihuela sources. HP To get on or off this list see

Re: cement

2005-05-20 Thread Howard Posner
bill kilpatrick wrote: all i have is the internet. i didn't study music at school and i don't have access to a library - i'm totally dependent on you for information. Yet remarkably resistant to the information that's offered. the fact that you knew (collectively - i assume most of you

Re: Air on the G string?

2005-02-26 Thread Howard Posner
Stanley Yates wrote: Yet, as far as I know, there is no single statement to be found among the perfromance practice sources of the period that discusses the modern concept of differentiated plucking on an octave-strung course. This is not to say that master guitarists of the time didn't do

Re: Air on the G string?

2005-02-25 Thread Howard Posner
Monica Hall wrote: And why not? We shouldn't worry too much about authenticity. Communicating with the listener is more important. Making assumptions about the thought processes of people who disagree with you is a fool's game. That's why it succeeds as a persuasive device only in politics.