Re: VimWiki - again - but with a brand new option

2007-05-14 Thread Tom Purl
Sorry it took me so long to respond to this Sebastian. On Thu, May 10, 2007 11:57 am, Sebastian Menge wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 10.05.2007, 10:44 -0500 schrieb Tom Purl: ... The proposal was not about the layout directly but about separating formatting from content! So feel free to change

Re: VimWiki - again - but with a brand new option

2007-05-10 Thread John Beckett
Tom Purl wrote: Here's what I propose we do: 1. Finalize a tip formatting standard. 2. Use the best available script that supports this standard. 3. Update the best available script if necessary. 4. Revise the standard if necessary. 5. Convert a tips sample. 6. Review the sample and revise the

Re: VimWiki - again - but with a brand new option

2007-05-10 Thread Tom Purl
On Thu, May 10, 2007 3:40 am, John Beckett wrote: Tom Purl wrote: Here's what I propose we do: 1. Finalize a tip formatting standard. 2. Use the best available script that supports this standard. 3. Update the best available script if necessary. 4. Revise the standard if necessary. 5.

RE: VimWiki - again - but with a brand new option

2007-05-10 Thread Tom Purl
On Thu, May 10, 2007 10:52 am, Zdenek Sekera wrote: It would be great if you would consider what I and others have written, then make a proposal with what you think. Thanks for the feedback! My proposal is basically what I said yesterday - that we follow some sort of schedule and make some

Re: VimWiki - again - but with a brand new option

2007-05-10 Thread Sebastian Menge
Am Donnerstag, den 10.05.2007, 10:44 -0500 schrieb Tom Purl: did last time: Put a sample tip on a wiki page so we can agree on its features. We already have a tip on the page that people have been working on. You can see the link to it on the following page: *

RE: VimWiki - again - but with a brand new option

2007-05-10 Thread Sebastian Menge
Am Donnerstag, den 10.05.2007, 11:40 -0500 schrieb Tom Purl: For the record, a couple of very knowledgeable people have already done most of the hard work. For examples, we have a collection of conversion scripts already: * http://vimtips.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/scripts/ Doh! -- Seb.

Re: VimWiki - again - but with a brand new option

2007-05-10 Thread Martin Krischik
Am Mittwoch 09 Mai 2007 schrieb Gene Kwiecinski: Now, I have zero idea just how much work is involved in making a wiki, but if it's enough for one person to do... hey, have at it.  Otherwise, if you end up waiting for a consensus as to which wiki software to use, which site to use, /ad

Re: VimWiki - again - but with a brand new option

2007-05-10 Thread Martin Krischik
Am Donnerstag 10 Mai 2007 schrieb Tom Purl: We already have a tip on the page that people have been working on.  You can see the link to it on the following page: * http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Learning_the_vi_editor/Vim/TipsSandbox Quite nice and I was quite disappointed when it did not

Re: VimWiki - again - but with a brand new option

2007-05-09 Thread Tom Purl
On Tue, May 8, 2007 3:32 pm, Bram Moolenaar wrote: The main goal now is to get the Vim tips collection back to live. It has been dead for three months now! I wasn't aware of this, and it's definitely a problem. Here's what I propose we do: 1. Finalize a tip formatting standard. 2. Use the

Re: VimWiki - again - but with a brand new option

2007-05-09 Thread Sebastian Menge
Am Mittwoch, den 09.05.2007, 10:33 -0500 schrieb Tom Purl: I wasn't aware of this, and it's definitely a problem. Here's what I propose we do: First, im not sure about what you mean by a) formatting standard and b) a script that supports the standard is a) something like a template in

Re: VimWiki - again - but with a brand new option

2007-05-09 Thread Tom Purl
On Wed, May 9, 2007 11:37 am, Sebastian Menge wrote: First, im not sure about what you mean by a) formatting standard and b) a script that supports the standard is a) something like a template in mediawiki-speak? see: http://home.comcast.net/~gerisch/MediaWikiTemplates.html

Re: VimWiki - again - but with a brand new option

2007-05-09 Thread Sebastian Menge
Am Mittwoch, den 09.05.2007, 13:06 -0500 schrieb Tom Purl: We do have a Wikia site available if we want it (http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page). I agree with you; it has a lot of nice features, and may give us a bit more flexibility than the wikibooks option. I think we should revisit this

Re: VimWiki - again - but with a brand new option

2007-05-09 Thread Bram Moolenaar
Ian Tegebo wrote: On 5/6/07, Sebastian Menge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all Independent of the implementation used, I suggest to develop good guidelines. The Wiki should be really valuable and not redundant to vim-tips or mailing-lists. I would like to make another

Re: VimWiki - again - but with a brand new option

2007-05-09 Thread Mark Woodward
On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 13:06 -0500, Tom Purl wrote: On Wed, May 9, 2007 11:37 am, Sebastian Menge wrote: First, im not sure about what you mean by a) formatting standard and b) a script that supports the standard is a) something like a template in mediawiki-speak? see:

Re: VimWiki - again - but with a brand new option

2007-05-09 Thread Tom Purl
On Tue, May 8, 2007 3:32 pm, Bram Moolenaar wrote: The main goal now is to get the Vim tips collection back to live. It has been dead for three months now! I wasn't aware of this, and it's definitely a problem. Here's what I propose we do: 1. Finalize a tip formatting standard. 2. Use the

Re: VimWiki - again - but with a brand new option

2007-05-09 Thread Tom Purl
On Wed, May 9, 2007 11:37 am, Sebastian Menge wrote: First, im not sure about what you mean by a) formatting standard and b) a script that supports the standard is a) something like a template in mediawiki-speak? see: http://home.comcast.net/~gerisch/MediaWikiTemplates.html

RE: VimWiki - again - but with a brand new option

2007-05-09 Thread Gene Kwiecinski
We do have a Wikia site available if we want it (http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page). I agree with you; it has a lot of nice features, and may give us a bit more flexibility than the wikibooks option. I think we should revisit this topic once we're ready to start the real conversion. No

Re: VimWiki - again - but with a brand new option

2007-05-09 Thread Sebastian Menge
Am Mittwoch, den 09.05.2007, 13:06 -0500 schrieb Tom Purl: We do have a Wikia site available if we want it (http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page). I agree with you; it has a lot of nice features, and may give us a bit more flexibility than the wikibooks option. I think we should revisit this

Re: VimWiki - again - but with a brand new option

2007-05-09 Thread russ
Original Message Subject: RE: VimWiki - again - but with a brand new option From: Gene Kwiecinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, May 09, 2007 1:35 pm To: Tom Purl [EMAIL PROTECTED], Vim Mailing List vim@vim.org [snip] Yeah, it's a good idea, but there are more important

RE: VimWiki - again - but with a brand new option

2007-05-09 Thread Gene Kwiecinski
Yeah, it's a good idea, but there are more important things I have for you to do...), Wow, you had one of those guys too? We just barely got rid of ours a few weeks ago. He moved on to greater opportunities. Bright guy, but to follow his lead, you'd just never get to do anything! Thankfully, I'm

Re: VimWiki - again - but with a brand new option

2007-05-09 Thread Bram Moolenaar
Ian Tegebo wrote: On 5/6/07, Sebastian Menge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all Independent of the implementation used, I suggest to develop good guidelines. The Wiki should be really valuable and not redundant to vim-tips or mailing-lists. I would like to make another

Re: VimWiki - again - but with a brand new option

2007-05-09 Thread Mark Woodward
On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 13:06 -0500, Tom Purl wrote: On Wed, May 9, 2007 11:37 am, Sebastian Menge wrote: First, im not sure about what you mean by a) formatting standard and b) a script that supports the standard is a) something like a template in mediawiki-speak? see:

Re: VimWiki - again - but with a brand new option

2007-05-08 Thread Sebastian Menge
Am Montag, den 07.05.2007, 16:07 -0700 schrieb Ian Tegebo: The Wiki would ideally understand how to link to vim-scripts and vim-tips like vimonline currently does. As a bonus, mailing-list posts would also linkable Easy:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interwiki#Shorthand_for_non-wiki_sites For

Re: VimWiki - again - but with a brand new option

2007-05-08 Thread Bram Moolenaar
Ian Tegebo wrote: On 5/6/07, Sebastian Menge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all Independent of the implementation used, I suggest to develop good guidelines. The Wiki should be really valuable and not redundant to vim-tips or mailing-lists. I would like to make another implementation

Re: VimWiki - again - but with a brand new option

2007-05-08 Thread Gary Johnson
On 2007-05-08, Ian Tegebo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/8/07, Bram Moolenaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ian Tegebo wrote: I would like to make another implementation independent suggestion; one could make a VimWiki more valuable by importing the _extremely_ valuable vim helpfiles

Re: VimWiki - again - but with a brand new option

2007-05-08 Thread Ian Tegebo
On 5/8/07, Gary Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2007-05-08, Ian Tegebo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/8/07, Bram Moolenaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ian Tegebo wrote: I would like to make another implementation independent suggestion; one could make a VimWiki more valuable by

Re: VimWiki - again - but with a brand new option

2007-05-08 Thread Sebastian Menge
Am Montag, den 07.05.2007, 16:07 -0700 schrieb Ian Tegebo: The Wiki would ideally understand how to link to vim-scripts and vim-tips like vimonline currently does. As a bonus, mailing-list posts would also linkable Easy:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interwiki#Shorthand_for_non-wiki_sites For

Re: VimWiki - again - but with a brand new option

2007-05-08 Thread Martin Krischik
Am Dienstag 08 Mai 2007 schrieb Ian Tegebo: It's fun to dream! I'm serious about getting the helpfiles imported into the Wiki though. I know about the VimDoc project; I think this could be the next evolution in that direction. Well, first one of the administrators of

Re: VimWiki - again - but with a brand new option

2007-05-08 Thread Ian Tegebo
On 5/8/07, Bram Moolenaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ian Tegebo wrote: On 5/6/07, Sebastian Menge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all Independent of the implementation used, I suggest to develop good guidelines. The Wiki should be really valuable and not redundant to vim-tips or

Re: VimWiki - again - but with a brand new option

2007-05-08 Thread Gary Johnson
On 2007-05-08, Ian Tegebo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/8/07, Bram Moolenaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ian Tegebo wrote: I would like to make another implementation independent suggestion; one could make a VimWiki more valuable by importing the _extremely_ valuable vim helpfiles

Re: VimWiki - again - but with a brand new option

2007-05-08 Thread Ian Tegebo
On 5/8/07, Gary Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2007-05-08, Ian Tegebo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/8/07, Bram Moolenaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ian Tegebo wrote: I would like to make another implementation independent suggestion; one could make a VimWiki more valuable by

Re: VimWiki - again - but with a brand new option

2007-05-07 Thread Ian Tegebo
On 5/6/07, Sebastian Menge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all Independent of the implementation used, I suggest to develop good guidelines. The Wiki should be really valuable and not redundant to vim-tips or mailing-lists. I would like to make another implementation independent suggestion; one

Re: VimWiki - again - but with a brand new option

2007-05-07 Thread Martin Krischik
Am Sonntag 06 Mai 2007 schrieb Sebastian Menge: PS: I would clearly prefer wikia.org over sf.net (I would not build up upon any beta ...) The beta officialy ended. Martin -- Martin Krischik mailto://[EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: VimWiki - again - but with a brand new option

2007-05-07 Thread Ian Tegebo
On 5/6/07, Sebastian Menge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all Independent of the implementation used, I suggest to develop good guidelines. The Wiki should be really valuable and not redundant to vim-tips or mailing-lists. I would like to make another implementation independent suggestion; one

VimWiki - again - but with a brand new option

2007-05-06 Thread Martin Krischik
Hello Vim Developers, Hello Vim Users, some time ago there was a huge discussion about a Vim-Wiki. In the end WikiBooks has the highest support. Still some whished for a Vim-only-Wiki instead of beeing part of a larger project. For this a new option is not open: SourceForge ended the beta for

Re: VimWiki - again - but with a brand new option

2007-05-06 Thread Sebastian Menge
Hi all Independent of the implementation used, I suggest to develop good guidelines. The Wiki should be really valuable and not redundant to vim-tips or mailing-lists. I think it's also important to have some people feeling responsible for it so if someone doesn't follow the rules, they will

VimWiki - again - but with a brand new option

2007-05-06 Thread Martin Krischik
Hello Vim Developers, Hello Vim Users, some time ago there was a huge discussion about a Vim-Wiki. In the end WikiBooks has the highest support. Still some whished for a Vim-only-Wiki instead of beeing part of a larger project. For this a new option is not open: SourceForge ended the beta for

Re: VimWiki - again - but with a brand new option

2007-05-06 Thread Sebastian Menge
Hi all Independent of the implementation used, I suggest to develop good guidelines. The Wiki should be really valuable and not redundant to vim-tips or mailing-lists. I think it's also important to have some people feeling responsible for it so if someone doesn't follow the rules, they will