Re: Customs charges Was: Anybody know the schematic to build local talk cables

2003-03-11 Thread the pickle
At 18:02 -0500 on 11/03/03, Robert Gray wrote: Someone wanna 'splain how...that's legal? If you don't pay anything for it, how are they allowed to tax it? It's the law! Obviously it's based on the item's value. If it was based on the declared value, everything would be imported as free or a

Re: Anybody know the schematic to build local talk cables

2003-03-10 Thread RedNight
Heh. Not all? Try *most* :) I'm amazed at the number of jacks I see with only two wires in 'em. thats what hapens when standards get changes around Shipping to Canada is *not* that expensive, and people literally *give away* LocalTalk and PhoneNet stuff on Swaplist quite often. I suggest

Re: Anybody know the schematic to build local talk cables

2003-03-10 Thread RedNight
At 12:37 PM 10/03/2003 -0500, you wrote: RedNight wrote: eventually I'll probably find some. no shipping is not expensive but Canada Customs are bastards. Yeah, they screw the few good Canadians and let the terrorists pass through. Time to vote someone out of office. Unfortunately they

Re: Anybody know the schematic to build local talk cables

2003-03-10 Thread the pickle
At 11:16 -0700 on 10/03/03, RedNight wrote: At 12:37 PM 10/03/2003 -0500, you wrote: RedNight wrote: eventually I'll probably find some. no shipping is not expensive but Canada Customs are bastards. Yeah, they screw the few good Canadians and let the terrorists pass through. Time to vote

Re: Anybody know the schematic to build local talk cables

2003-03-10 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- RedNight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heh. Not all? Try *most* :) I'm amazed at the number of jacks I see with only two wires in 'em. thats what hapens when standards get changes around Yes, annoying, isn't it? Microsoft has decided to change yet another standard to how they want.

Re: Anybody know the schematic to build local talk cables

2003-03-10 Thread RedNight
Someone wanna 'splain how the that's legal? If you don't pay anything for it, how are they allowed to tax it of the several things I have ordered/receieved from the US one so far has had the customs forms filled out correctly. They generally stick you with a handling fee on top of it as

Import duties. Re: Anybody know the schematic to build local talk cables

2003-03-10 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone wanna 'splain how the that's legal? If you don't pay anything for it, how are they allowed to tax it? A value is assessed then the customs department levies an import duty on it, unless the item was produced in the country you're importing

Re: Anybody know the schematic to build local talk cables

2003-03-09 Thread Jeff Walther
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 22:25:32 -0700 From: RedNight [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Anybody know the schematic to build local talk cables Do you need LocalTalk cables or PhoneNet connectors? They're used for the same purpose but they're not the same thing. PhoneNet connectors are cheap

Re: Anybody know the schematic to build local talk cables

2003-03-08 Thread Robert Patterson
Yes, you can theoretically have a complete Mac AppleTalk (PhoneNet) network using your regular telephone wiring, but there are certain GOTCHAs... A Farallon engineer once told me that this was their original intent, to be able to use your existing home telephone wiring with their PhoneNet

Re: Anybody know the schematic to build local talk cables

2003-03-08 Thread David Culler
What a shame. I have some I was going to give you for free, but I don't want to send them to some foreign country. RedNight wrote: In all do reality I don't care, I'm more interested in a schematic then places to get them in a foreign country (like the US). A little soldering is no issue,

Anybody know the schematic to build local talk cables

2003-03-08 Thread Philip Stortz
i have the schematic, if interested you can contact me off list. it's easy, and polarity doesn't matter as only transitions are sensed. you use the 2nd and 4th wires of a 4 wire jack on the phone wire side. there's a 50 ohm 1:1 transformer hooked to the phone wires, the other side goes

Re: Anybody know the schematic to build local talk cables

2003-03-07 Thread Jeff Walther
At 15:30 -0500 03/07/2003, Vintage Macs wrote: At 1:36 PM -0700 3/6/03, RedNight wrote: well the subject carries the question, but I can't find localtalk connectors so I need to know how to make a some. Do you need LocalTalk cables or PhoneNet connectors? They're used for the same purpose

Re: Anybody know the schematic to build local talk cables

2003-03-07 Thread RedNight
Do you need LocalTalk cables or PhoneNet connectors? They're used for the same purpose but they're not the same thing. PhoneNet connectors are cheap and probably not hard to find. I think it was the Berkeley MUG who first worked out how to make them so you might do a little searching with

Re: Anybody know the schematic to build local talk cables

2003-03-07 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Jeff Walther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you need LocalTalk cables or PhoneNet connectors? They're used for the same purpose but they're not the same thing. PhoneNet connectors are cheap and probably not hard to find. I think it was the Berkeley MUG who first worked out how to

Re: Anybody know the schematic to build local talk cables

2003-03-07 Thread Rob
Two. The outer two wires of the four.(The inner two are reserved for voice phone) Rob - Original Message - From: Gregg Eshelman How many wires does PhoneNet use in the telephone cables? -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog

Re: Anybody know the schematic to build local talk cables

2003-03-07 Thread Gregg Eshelman
So it should be possible to network at least two Macs via PhoneNet through the wires in the walls, provided you don't have a second line and do have four wire phone cable in the walls and that the other pair is connected to the jacks for the second line you could have if you paid the telco for it.

Anybody know the schematic to build local talk cables

2003-03-06 Thread RedNight
well the subject carries the question, but I can't find localtalk connectors so I need to know how to make a some. -- []-[]-[] |[]-[]-[] | RedNight+- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | --

Re: Anybody know the schematic to build local talk cables

2003-03-06 Thread Hardy Menagh
At 1:36 PM -0700 3/6/03, RedNight wrote: well the subject carries the question, but I can't find localtalk connectors so I need to know how to make a some. -- Have you tried eBay? they pop up all of the time for spare change. Hardy Menagh, Hardsdisk Ltd., a branch of the Abandoned Computer