RE: Perl 5.24.0 binary kits for OpenVMS available

2016-05-12 Thread Carl Friedberg
or suggestions, or post a reply. Carl Friedberg www.comets.com carl.friedb...@comets.com http://about.me/carl.friedberg -Original Message- From: Craig A. Berry [mailto:craigbe...@mac.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 8:26 PM To: vmsperl (vmsperl@perl.org) <vmsperl@perl.org>; Perl5 P

RE: Excel::Writer on OpenVMS

2015-10-30 Thread Carl Friedberg
Craig, Wow, thanks for your meticulous research. Great job! Carl Carl Friedberg friedb...@esb.com (212) 798-0718 www.esb.com The Elias Book of Baseball Records 2015 Edition -Original Message- From: Craig A. Berry [mailto:craigbe...@mac.com] Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 4:59 PM

VMS:: modules on 5.20

2014-06-09 Thread Carl Friedberg
some errors x VMS-System-1_05 x VMS-User-0_02 I have tested VMS::device; the others survived mmk, mmk test, and mmk install, more or less. Thank you, Craig and all of the Perl 5 porters. Carl Friedberg www.esb.com The Elias Book of Baseball Records 2014 Edition

RE: Perl 5.18.2 binary kits for OpenVMS available

2014-01-08 Thread Carl Friedberg
Craig, Thanks for getting this out (and so quickly)! Happy New Year, Carl Carl Friedberg www.esb.com The Elias Book of Baseball Records 2014 Edition -Original Message- From: Craig A. Berry [mailto:craigbe...@mac.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 8:21 PM To: vmsperl (vmsperl

perl 5.18.0 RC1

2013-05-12 Thread Carl Friedberg
messages they produce. ### See the INSTALL document's section on make test. ### You have a good chance to get more information by running ### ./perl harness ### in the 't' directory since most (=80%) of the tests succeede Carl Friedberg www.esb.com The Elias Book of Baseball Records 2013 Edition

RE: perl 5.18.0 RC1

2013-05-12 Thread Carl Friedberg
Thanks, Craig. I know this happened last time I ran some tests, so I've started tests on several more servers (Alphas) I'll keep you posted. Carl Friedberg (212) 798-0718 www.esb.com The Elias Book of Baseball Records 2013 Edition -Original Message- From: Craig A. Berry

VMS (was RE: status of WinCE Perl port in 2012)

2013-01-16 Thread Carl Friedberg
VMS off. Please. Current hardware is still manufactured, and the latest Intel Itanium processor will be supported by VMS. Five years from now, I expect that situation to be the same. VMS has been around since 1977. It is actively supported and developed at HP. Carl Friedberg www.esb.com

RE: perl on vms website

2012-12-22 Thread Carl Friedberg
account. Thanks. Carl Friedberg www.esb.com The Elias Book of Baseball Records 2013 Edition -Original Message- From: Craig A. Berry [mailto:craigbe...@mac.com] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 10:51 PM To: Thomas Pfau Cc: vmsperl@perl.org List (vmsperl@perl.org) Subject: Re: perl on vms

RE: print statement froces new line at 132 chars?

2012-07-08 Thread Carl Friedberg
, and sorry to waste your time. Carl Friedberg www.esb.com The Elias Book of Baseball Records 2012 Edition -Original Message- From: Craig A. Berry [mailto:craigbe...@mac.com] Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 10:05 PM To: Carl Friedberg Cc: 'VMSperl Mailing List' Subject: Re: print statement

RE: HP hobbyist license

2012-05-15 Thread Carl Friedberg
to the one Craig uses, I suspect). All of these are available to perl developers. Send me an e-mail and I will set up an account for you. Please be aware that the backups are a bit cranky and the internet connection is a slow T1. Carl Friedberg www.comets.com carl.friedb

test generate IVVERB on 5-14.1

2011-09-09 Thread Carl Friedberg
Fri Sep 9 13:36:50 2011: Module VMS::User * VERSION: 0.02 Carl Friedberg www.esb.com The Elias Book of Baseball Records 2011 Edition

Perl 5.14.1 on VMS 8.3 Multinet 5.3 C V7.3-009 failed 10 tests of 1904

2011-08-18 Thread Carl Friedberg
wishes, Carl Carl Friedberg www.esb.com The Elias Book of Baseball Records 2011 Edition

built 5.12-3 on RX2600 / 8.4

2011-05-07 Thread Carl Friedberg
perllocal installed_perl_modules.txt Carl Friedberg www.esb.com The Elias Book of Baseball Records 2011 Edition

librarian 1.07 fails with ./typemap

2011-04-29 Thread Carl Friedberg
any worse. But, if someone with more tuits than I have could see if that made sense, please do so. If I ever need to use this module, then it shall be I (whew, I'm glad it is Friday afternoon and I'm about to get out of here). So far 5-12.3 is looking good. Carl Carl Friedberg www.esb.com

RE: Building VMS Perl (5-12.3)

2011-03-25 Thread Carl Friedberg
submit to batch to build perl. Best to all, Carl Friedberg (212) 798-0718 www.esb.com The Elias Book of Baseball Records 2011 Edition -Original Message- From: Craig A. Berry [mailto:craigbe...@mac.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 8:05 AM To: Black, Andrew (Global Products Unit

RE: Building VMS Perl

2011-03-24 Thread Carl Friedberg
Craig, On Mar 23, 2011, at 8:35 PM, Craig Berry wrote: On Mar 23, 2011, at 1:46 PM, Carl Friedberg wrote: I have these issues which I will research and report back to the group (all with VMS 8.3 on alpha): (1) my batch script generates 2 batch logs with the same name. One from

RE: Building VMS Perl

2011-03-23 Thread Carl Friedberg
that; apparently there's an extra line ending every 4048 characters ). Carl Friedberg (212) 798-0718 www.esb.com The Elias Book of Baseball Records 2011 Edition -Original Message- From: Craig A. Berry [mailto:craigbe...@mac.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 8:05 AM To: Black, Andrew

RE: SMG keyboard interface

2010-08-04 Thread Carl Friedberg
Well, once again, I dropped the ball here. I thought I had put it on CPAN; I did get permission from the author to do that. I know I was working on it about 4 years ago, but got sidetracked. I'll see if I can dig into this sometime this week. Carl -Original Message- From: Thomas Pfau

RE: Problem with VMS Carriage return carriage control files in 5.10 and 5.12

2010-04-21 Thread Carl Friedberg
Martin, Craig John, About 7 weeks ago, I put 5.10.1 into production. It looked good until the overnight production ran, and then all hell broke loose. I did not have time to poke around, but the symptom was that completely trivial perl scripts failed, with extra line breaks being thrown into

module build

2010-01-30 Thread Carl Friedberg
and, install does NOT make an entry in perl_root:[lib.VMS_AXP.5_10_1]perllocal.pod But, with the above incantation it did work. And, instead of perllocal.pod, it did write: perl_root:[lib.site_perl.VMS_AXP.auto.Test.Pod].packlist FWIW Carl Friedberg friedb...@comets.com www.comets.com

RE: 5.10.1 deleting fields-5... allowed all tests to run

2009-09-03 Thread Carl Friedberg
[-.lib.CPANPLUS.t]15_CPANPLUS-Shell.t [-.lib.Module.Build.t]debug.t [-.lib.Module.Build.t]tilde.t [-.lib.Net.Ping.t]510_ping_udp.t [-.lib.autodie.t]recv.t [-.lib]warnings.t op/cmp.t Best wishes. Carl Friedberg

RE: 5.10.1 is released

2009-08-28 Thread Carl Friedberg
noisy traffic down the line. I've renamed them appropriately. I've been using the same ancient version of tar for probably 12 years now. I have installed the VMSTAR from freeware. I'm rebuilding after expanding with VMSTAR as you recommended. Best wishes. Carl Friedberg friedb...@esb.com

RE: 5.10.1 is released

2009-08-26 Thread Carl Friedberg
FAILED--expected 8 tests, saw 0 Can't run [-.lib.base.t]fields-5.6.0.t. (looks like it ran through about 892 tests with the 3 failures listed above, then came to a grinding halt with the fields-5.6.0.t file name... Carl Friedberg carl.friedb

RE: VMS::Persona

2009-07-24 Thread Carl Friedberg
, that's great. What version (s) of perl and VMS? Best wishes, Carl Friedberg friedb...@comets.com www.comets.com

RE: VMS::Persona

2009-07-22 Thread Carl Friedberg
encouraged so I can be sure the newer model will not break the existing code, if possible). This may be a dead horse, not worth beating upon. Carl Friedberg friedb...@comets.com www.comets.com Peter Prymmer

RE: VMS::Persona

2009-07-22 Thread Carl Friedberg
=sys_persona.c I'll be glad to engage Peter Prymmer in this effort. Carl Friedberg friedb...@esb.com www.esb.com The Elias Book of Baseball Records 2009 Edition -Original Message- From: Craig A. Berry [mailto:craigbe...@mac.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 9:07 AM To: Carl Friedberg Cc

VMS::Persona

2009-07-21 Thread Carl Friedberg
to speak. Best wishes, Carl Friedberg friedb...@comets.com www.comets.com

trying to install mime-tools-5_427 on perl 5.10.0 (VMS 8.3)

2009-07-15 Thread Carl Friedberg
, h q, h R or h o to get additional info. D I believe I have all of the required pieces in place, or already in the core. Any hints appreciated. Carl Friedberg friedb...@esb.com www.esb.com The Elias Book of Baseball Records 2009 Edition

RE: any glue to sys$getrmi

2008-08-20 Thread Carl Friedberg
found that unless I used the very latest version of MMK from the process fileserv, I could not get perl 5.10.0 to build (MMK V4.0, March 2008). MMS version 3.8 eco02 had problems as well. I know Peter asked about this a few months back. Carl Friedberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.comets.com -Original

RE: any glue to sys$getrmi

2008-08-14 Thread Carl Friedberg
Hi Craig, Thanks so much. Of course, I did have this utility stashed away in my vms perl directory, but I had never installed it. Off to work we go. Again, thanks for your help. Carl Friedberg Comet Company 165 William St 9 NY NY 10038 www.comets.com (212) 233-5470 -Original Message

any glue to sys$getrmi

2008-08-13 Thread Carl Friedberg
Hi, I'd like to use a VMS perl interface to sys$getrmi. I'm attempting to write my own version, but if anyone has already started this effort and has some ideas, or eve better, working code, please contact me; offline is fine. If / when I get this done, it will get to CPAN. Thanks, Carl

can not build log::StdLog from CPAN

2006-11-17 Thread Carl Friedberg
called version, but I must be missing something really obvious. Any hints? Obviously there's no file version.pm on my system... Thanks in advance, Carl Friedberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.esb.com The Elias Book of Baseball Records 2006 Edition

RE: Help building a Perl Module that works under HP-UX and Linux but not under VMS

2006-10-18 Thread Carl Friedberg
internals wizards using an online voting system, in hex). I'm sure your solution would have won a prize. Congratulations! And, I'm still ROFLMAOPIMP. Carl Friedberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.comets.com [1] DECUS == Digital Equipment Corporation Users Society, which held symposia twice a year for many, many

RE: ExtUtils::Install::_can_write_dir bug (was RE: XML::Parser XML::DOM XML::XSLT)

2006-10-17 Thread Carl Friedberg
; I now tried MMS, just in case (and I knew how to log the actions). I have attached the log file. Carl Friedberg Comet Company 165 William St 9 NY NY 10038 www.comets.com (212) 233-5470 -Original Message- From

XML::Parser XML::DOM XML::XSLT

2006-09-25 Thread Carl Friedberg
for your helpful suggestions in the past. Carl Friedberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.comets.com xslt_install.log Description: xslt_install.log

RE: XML::Parser XML::DOM XML::XSLT

2006-09-25 Thread Carl Friedberg
ready to use it, and it is needed. But, that auto-generated descrip.mms is a bit hard for me to decipher, and I don't want to do something dumb (all too easy from the SYSTEM account). Thanks again, Carl Friedberg

RE: building 5.9.4 on VMS 7.3-2 Alpha

2006-08-22 Thread Carl Friedberg
John, Either rename all of your files to have upper case extensions before you start, or use Madgoat Make (MMK). I have been using MMK. Thanks, I should have remember that. Carl Friedberg Comet Company 165 William St 9 NY NY 10038 www.comets.com (212) 233-5470

RE: building 5.9.4 on VMS 7.3-2 Alpha

2006-08-22 Thread Carl Friedberg
: perl_root:[lib.VMS_AXP.5_9_4] perl_root:[lib] perl_root:[lib.site_perl.VMS_AXP] perl_root:[lib.site_perl] . Carl Friedberg Comet Company 165 William St 9 NY NY 10038 www.comets.com (212) 233-5470

building 5.9.4 on VMS 7.3-2 Alpha

2006-08-21 Thread Carl Friedberg
the systems which I work on...). I'll keep soldering on, but if you have a useful URL to read, let me know. Thanks, Carl Friedberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.comets.com

RE: perlvms - VMS-specific documentation for Perl

2006-08-18 Thread Carl Friedberg
Hi Kees, Just a followup. Are you making progress? Best, Carl Friedberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.comets.com

RE: perlvms - VMS-specific documentation for Perl

2006-08-14 Thread Carl Friedberg
to know how to find them. It is hard to find the right keywords to google! Kind regards, Kees van der Pot Hosting Services VMS NL EDS International BV Let me know if you need more information on any of these general suggestions. Good luck. Carl Friedberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.comets.com

RE: Module install

2006-02-09 Thread Carl Friedberg
, unless there are objects. I'll post here before I put it up in CPAN. Carl Friedberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1.212.233.5470 www.comets.com -Original Message- From: Thomas Pfau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 4:57 PM To: Chris Sharman Cc: vmsperl@perl.org

problems building smg

2005-12-02 Thread Carl Friedberg
for the excessive noise. Carl Friedberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1.212.233.5470 www.comets.com

RE: problems building smg

2005-12-02 Thread Carl Friedberg
just a user so far. Best, Carl Friedberg Comet Company 165 William St 9 NY NY 10038 www.comets.com (212) 233-5470 -Original Message- From: Thomas Pfau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 7:21 PM To: Carl Friedberg Cc: vmsperl@perl.org Subject: Re: problems

RE: Proposed vmsish changes.

2005-09-28 Thread Carl Friedberg
maintenance, and you all know I've dropped that. Hopefully, I will get back to all of this before the end of November. Finally, I do hope to set up vmsperl.com as a useful resource. Good intentions and all that. Best, Carl Friedberg Comet Company 165 William St 9 NY NY 10038 www.comets.com (212) 233

RE: lib/test/simple/t/create.t help with VMS issue needed.

2005-08-16 Thread Carl Friedberg
think mine brain is fried from the heat hear, sorry to waste bandwidth... Jumping back out... Carl Friedberg Comet Company 165 William St 9 NY NY 10038 www.comets.com (212) 233-5470 -Original Message- From: sebb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 8:35 PM

RE: Current Status and location of VMS::Logical?

2004-04-29 Thread Carl Friedberg
I've volunteered before, but I have not produced what I promised (e.g., our website has not been touched, and I'm feeling guilty about that). Nonetheless, if no one else can do it, I will try to step in here. I hope some one else can do it, however... Carl Friedberg [EMAIL PROTECTED

OT: EBay (was RE: Using File::Find to find all versions)

2004-02-06 Thread Carl Friedberg
) and install the latest firmware (downloadable from the hp website). I also had to find a random Plextor SCSI CDrom and an old floppy drive (don't know if that will work, but I shouldn't need it). Carl Friedberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.comets.com

RE: rightslist.dat format (VMS::Indexedfile)

2004-01-14 Thread Carl Friedberg
tapes? I'm sure the record layout (1) is on one of those tapes (maybe even on a SIG tape from early 90's); and (2) (less sure) has not changed in all these years (hoping, hoping). Carl Friedberg -Original Message- From: Patrick Spinler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday

5.8.2 builds

2003-11-07 Thread Carl Friedberg
. Carl Friedberg www.comets.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: File Read Error

2003-11-03 Thread Carl Friedberg
How big is the file? Can you zip it up and send it to me? I've written an unpublished book on RMS, which includes some tricks on recovering from various kinds of RMS errors. Have you run ANALYZE/RMS/INTERACTIVE, or just ANALYZE/RMS on the file? Have you tried DUMP/RECORD and DUMP/BLOCK? Is the

one failure of RC1 on VMS E7.3-2

2003-10-31 Thread Carl Friedberg
$DKA200:[PERL_582.] @INC: perl_root:[lib.VMS_AXP.5_8_2] perl_root:[lib] perl_root:[lib.site_perl.VMS_AXP] perl_root:[lib.site_perl] /perl_root/lib/site_perl . =SYSTEM @ VMS0$ Carl Friedberg

RE: Math error in Perl

2003-09-04 Thread Carl Friedberg
Mark, I can explain number 1 by precedence and the results from number 2, which, however I can not explain, nor understand. Here's a simpler example of number 2: $ perl -e print (2)*5; 2 Huh? Parens turn this into a list operator or something? Dan, or someone, help! Carl -Original

RE: Working with ANSI-standard iostream on VMS

2003-08-25 Thread Carl Friedberg
Please send us the output of the following: directory/full (of the output file produced by your C++ program dump/header/block:count:1 (of the same file) I suspect there's some interesting file/record type here (streamlf or something similar) It would also be interesting to compare the above

RE: vmsperl Digest 2 Apr 2003 21:19:24 -0000 Issue 685

2003-04-04 Thread Carl Friedberg
There was a reason why I spent a lot of time tuning the INSTALL'd images list, so that all of those RTL's were INSTALL /OPEN/HEAD/SHARE; it was surprising how many frequently-activated images on VMS were not installed that way by default. Nowadays, they do a much better job... Stanley produced

RE: vmsperl Digest 2 Apr 2003 21:19:24 -0000 Issue 685

2003-04-03 Thread Carl Friedberg
All right, here's some things that I tend to remember FWIW (and my brain cells are starting to fade a bit): (and it is NOT a tree) (1) I was definitely using a PDP-1 (18 bit) from 1961 through 1968. There was no operating system as such. I wrote a couple of them, one of which used DDT (which was

RE: vmsperl Digest 2 Apr 2003 21:19:24 -0000 Issue 685

2003-04-03 Thread Carl Friedberg
ow -Original Message- From: Michael G Schwern [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 2:47 PM To: Carl Friedberg Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: vmsperl Digest 2 Apr 2003 21:19:24 - Issue 685 On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 11:33:07AM -0500, Carl Friedberg wrote

RE: vmsperl Digest 2 Apr 2003 21:19:24 -0000 Issue 685

2003-04-03 Thread Carl Friedberg
- From: Carl Friedberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 4:43 PM To: Michael G Schwern Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: vmsperl Digest 2 Apr 2003 21:19:24 - Issue 685 TKB == Task Builder

RE: reverse(qw(VMS to Linux HOWTO));

2003-04-02 Thread Carl Friedberg
Next Paragraph: (I'm sure Michael will come up with the actual tools, but until then); Here's the VMS for dummies equivalents: LINUX: VMS: mkdir create/dir ls dir ls -la dir /fu (warning, there are no

RE: [foo.bar][baz.biff]file.tmp doesn't happen to work, does it?

2002-11-18 Thread Carl Friedberg
Michael, I'll jump in briefly and mutter: concealed devices In brief, no, they would not be equivalent (s /\]\[/\./) That is, the adjoining brackets do not just disappear, $ dir [friedberg.tools][com.fms] %DIRECT-E-OPENIN, error opening [FRIEDBERG.TOOLS][COM.FMS] as input -RMS-F-SYN, file

RE: [foo.bar][baz.biff]file.tmp doesn't happen to work, does it?

2002-11-18 Thread Carl Friedberg
Sorry to the list, Outlook ms$'d my lines: Michael, I'll jump in briefly and mutter: concealed devices In brief, no, they would not be equivalent (s /\]\[/\./) That is, the adjoining brackets do not just disappear, $ dir [friedberg.tools][com.fms] %DIRECT-E-OPENIN, error opening

RE: market penetration of VMS Perl

2002-10-14 Thread Carl Friedberg
Keep bugging me about this, and maybe we can ask users to voluntarily register their use of Perl. It's not going to happen this month, though. But it might be worth a try. Perhaps the size of the vmsperl mailing list might give you a hint (i.e., not a whole lot compared to 1/2 million installed

RE: MMK + 7.3-1 = :-( [was Re: Problem building Perl]

2002-10-08 Thread Carl Friedberg
I can answer the search question: $ PRODUCT SHOW HISTORY *_RMS* (or even $ pro sh h *_rms*) will work; all the recent Alpha VMS patches have been distributed with PCSI, as opposed to numerous layered products and 3rd party products which still use VMSINSTAL... the only difference is my

RE: Perl vs. DCL (was RE: Set Default not Working)

2002-09-04 Thread Carl Friedberg
Tom, I personally feel that logical names and name tables are among the most powerful features easily available to end users on VMS. However, I would not equate them with Perl hashes. There are overheads associated with logical names which could cause problems if they were used where Perl

RE: Building 5.8.0 problem

2002-08-20 Thread Carl Friedberg
Hi Jordan and Dan (and the list) I'll give it a stab. Conflict of interest warning: I used to have vmsperl.com running at my headquarters, but verio nuked my ISDN setup. I still have the class C, but I can't use it until I perform some networking magic. I would be please to try to give some

C RTL patch on alpha v7.2-1

2002-04-27 Thread Carl Friedberg
The following patch was announced yesterday. There are a huge number of fixes, changes, etc., which make this look like a major rewrite of the c RTL. I'll be holding off applying this for a bit... VMS721_ACRTL-V0400 Alpha V7.2-1 Compaq C RTL ECO Summary Carl

Multinet has Echo service on by default (was RE: Net::Ping tests -- who should run them?)

2002-01-06 Thread Carl Friedberg
FWIW (probably not much), I checked our VMS servers (VMS 7.2-1 Alpha; Multinet 4.3a) and found the following configuration, which must be the default, as I am certain I did not configure it: SERVER-CONFIGshow /full Service ECHO: TCP socket (AF_INET,SOCK_STREAM), Port 7 Socket

RE: [PATCH vms/test.com] Goodbye frightening echo kludge!

2001-12-09 Thread Carl Friedberg
Congratulations, Peter (blatantly OT) Carl -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 6:20 PM To: Brad Hughes Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PATCH vms/test.com]

RE: Native vs IEEE floats (was Re: We're at 100% passing!)

2001-12-08 Thread Carl Friedberg
re IEEE floats, I'm not sure exactly why we decided to go with IEEE (I was silently against that, since I thought the native VMS formats offered slightly higher accuracy), but I've sure changed my mind after attending OpenVMS Engineering's IPF porting seminar in NYC Thursday. IEEE is the only

RE: [PATCH t/op/magic.t] Puut... The TODO... Beck!

2001-12-08 Thread Carl Friedberg
Again, I'll pipe up with my 2 cents. I have a very strong aversion to turning off all error messages in that unconditional way, especially in a test setting. I suppose it may be the only way to quiet annoying messages, but the problem is that you lose what might be some critical insight from

DII COE on VMS link

2001-12-06 Thread Carl Friedberg
I had a bit of off-list chat with Hoff... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 1:37 PM To: Carl Friedberg Subject: Re: [PATCH t/op/stat.t vms/test.com] stat.t portability,the LAST VMS exception! You can post

RE: [PATCH t/op/stat.t vms/test.com] stat.t portability,the LAST VMS exception!

2001-12-05 Thread Carl Friedberg
symbolic links more robust, and including a link count, seem like a natural function for VMS. I am forwarding this to our VMS guru for consideration as a feature in a future version of VMS. Carl Friedberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ivor Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: Broken URL in README.vms

2001-11-29 Thread Carl Friedberg
Thanks, Craig, I just jumped in too quickly, sorry for any confusion... Carl -Original Message- From: Craig A. Berry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 10:02 AM To: Carl Friedberg Cc: Michael G Schwern; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Broken URL in README.vms

RE: Broken URL in README.vms

2001-11-28 Thread Carl Friedberg
Michael, There's nothing quite like that one, but this is the starting point: ftp://ftp.support.compaq.com/public/vms/ You have to drill down from there (axp or vax, followed by the version). HTH. Carl Friedberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Michael G Schwern [mailto

RE: [PATCH Perl@13050] a not-so-lethal kill() for VMS pre7.0

2001-11-20 Thread Carl Friedberg
Fiche? We don't want no stinkin fiche. We want the source listings on CDrom... Anyone got those these days? Carl -Original Message- From: Charles Lane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 5:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PATCH

RE: [PATCH Perl@13050] a not-so-lethal kill() for VMS pre7.0

2001-11-19 Thread Carl Friedberg
A real advantage to using an undocumented system service to implement a fancy new Perl feature* on an obsolete version of VMS: the VMS engineers are not too likely to make changes in the interface (the main reason given to avoid using undocumented calls). Go for it Carl * from a crufty old

RE: [PATCH Perl@12567] debug /list

2001-10-23 Thread Carl Friedberg
The smallest disks you can buy now are 18gb... IBM has a special where you get 3 hot-swap Ultra160 10k drives for the price of 2 (about $1200 for 3 of them, $400 each). Carl -Original Message- From: Charles Lane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 9:38 PM I

RE: [PATCH perl@12443] VMS 64-bit configure

2001-10-16 Thread Carl Friedberg
Picky, Picky... not ok 1362 # Test 1362 got: '1427247692705959881058285969649495136382746624' ([-.lib.math.bigint.t]bigintpm.t at line 231) # Expected: '1427247692705959881058285969449495136382746624' ^ Just took a very brief look at

RE: :System and *_VECTOR item codes

2001-08-17 Thread Carl Friedberg
On a DS20E, VMS7.2-1: $ write sys$output f$getsyi(thermal_vector) FF01 $ On an ES40, VMS7.2-1: $ write sys$output f$getsyi(thermal_vector) $ Neither of these seems useful... Carl -Original Message- From: Craig A. Berry

RE: :FTP on VMS

2001-07-27 Thread Carl Friedberg
David, (1) I've used this a lot: backup to a saveset, then zip-up the saveset (usually makes it about 1/4 to 1/2 the size, BTW), then ftp that in BIN/Image mode. Trades CPU costs for network bandwidth... reverse at the other end. I've sent huge savesets (500mb) this way, and all file properties

RE: A VMS::Queue question

2001-07-23 Thread Carl Friedberg
Hi, Did this ever get resolved? I don't see anything recent on sidhe.org, and I'm curious what happened... Carl -Original Message- From: Patrick Spinler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 9:39 AM To: Dan Sugalski Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: A VMS::Queue

RE: what the heck is $^S (was Re: waitpid return status)

2001-06-03 Thread Carl Friedberg
Hi all, I've been following this list for about five years, and I don't recall this subject having been raised before (though I did make some comments on this general area -- consistency of return values -- a couple of years ago). I mention this in the hope that solution 1 (make $? work, delete

RE: kit to build and install Perl + extensions

2001-04-19 Thread Carl Friedberg
Thank you Sebastian, I was thinking along the same lines, but... Carl -Original Message- From: BAZLEY, Sebastian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 7:44 AM To: 'Craig A. Berry'; Peter Prymmer Cc: 'VMS Perl Mailing List' Subject: RE: kit to build and install Perl +

RE: [PATCH perl@9125] t/lib/1_compile.t VMS mod

2001-03-13 Thread Carl Friedberg
01, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 04:44:32PM -0500, Charles Lane wrote: one needs a bit more detective work. I hope it's not lib/switch. I suspect it's still op/chop because we don't have a TODO implementation yet. Carl Friedberg said he was working on this but I haven't hear

RE: binmode ()

2001-03-08 Thread Carl Friedberg
You can put it on my todo list, and it will probably get done within the next 12 months... Carl -Original Message- From: Peter Prymmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 1:39 PM To: Carl Friedberg Cc: Dan Sugalski; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE

RE: Socket madness

2001-02-08 Thread Carl Friedberg
Could this be an EOL issue (CRLF on VMS; LF infamous *N*X newline)? Carl -Original Message- From: Forrest Cahoon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 11:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Socket madness I'm sorry this message is so long, but we are having

RE: EmuMail: makefile.pl script (standard?) and various modules

2001-02-07 Thread Carl Friedberg
Hi Lance, /begin{VMS DCL SERMON} Just a short note, I can't help with your problem. But, you should be aware that the On Severe statement is overriden by the on Error statement when using error handling in DCL. It's counterintuitive, but that's how it works. Which ever ON {Warning, Error,

RE: 5.6.1 and the freeware CD

2001-02-02 Thread Carl Friedberg
One thing that might help you: if you have some crappy old MVII or similar "junk" hardware, get a personal license (free) for it and use that to compile, assuming you can get the combination of a new enough C compiler (not sure about this at all). there is also a free license for educational use;

RE: Error while building Perl 5.6.0

2001-02-01 Thread Carl Friedberg
ig A. Berry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 5:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Error while building Perl 5.6.0 At 4:45 PM -0500 2/1/01, Carl Friedberg wrote: "DOWN" Ok, who's the "bad logical names" pumpking? It's not really a bad logical name

RE: Binary information in perl modules on VMS?

2000-12-19 Thread Carl Friedberg
not for the forseeable future. I don't have any RdB specific help for you, but if it's RMS you want to know about... Carl Friedberg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Daniel F. Stoner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 5:13 PM To: 'Dan Sugalski';

RE: [ID 20001127.007] Not OK: perl v5.7.0 +DEVEL7891 on

2000-11-29 Thread Carl Friedberg
Nice catch! Thanks for this. Carl -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 11:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ID 20001127.007] Not OK: perl v5.7.0 +DEVEL7891 on - { $Inc .= "-I$_ " } + { $Inc .= "\"-I$_\" " }

RE: [ID 20001127.007] Not OK: perl v5.7.0 +DEVEL7891 on VMS_AXP V7.1

2000-11-28 Thread Carl Friedberg
Craig, Chuck et al, FWIW, and knowing nothing about the test scripts involved, I personally have developed an EXTREME aversion to Set Message /NoFacility/NoSeverity/NoIdentification/NoText I know these are test suites, but it's nice to have those messages. Aren't we redirecting sys$error

RE: Perl .vs. DCL

2000-11-22 Thread Carl Friedberg
Oh yea, now I remember: If you are running VMS earlier than 7.2 (with its ODSx enhancements), it's very easy to write a script that deletes (whatever you like) out of a directory ass-backwards, something like the following: # cleandir - go through directory backasswards and get rid of

RE: open source, porting, etc. (was RE: more observations (andqu estions) on the SYS$I18N_LOCALE dirs)

2000-11-16 Thread Carl Friedberg
Jordan, I'd agree that most of what you want is nearly in Perl now. Missing "native" calls can be implemented via xs, as has been so nicely done already by Dan, especially. Logical names need some work, but they do work, not as nicely as in VMS, but they are usable. I think to get the best

RE: [PATCH] get DProf tests working

2000-10-13 Thread Carl Friedberg
You know, I'm starting to get those funny sensations in my stomache, like what I get when I mistype a case on a *nix-based ftp server. Yup, VMS after 7.2 is gonna have more and more nix-like case sensitivies. Thanks for the DECC$ARGV_PARSE_STYLE tip. I remember the days of VMS 3.0, when DEC

RE: [PATCH] 5.6.0 5.7.0 VMS TZ fix for VMS6.2 and earlier

2000-10-04 Thread Carl Friedberg
Thom Chuck, FWIW, it is not on a 6.2-1h3 alpha running Multinet 4.2A-X; just sys$timezone_differential, which IIRC is maintained by hand 2x/year. Carl -Original Message- From: Tom Pfau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Well, SYS$TIMEZONE_RULE isn't present on VMS 6.2, so it It's there on

RE: Tree-based XML parser

2000-09-26 Thread Carl Friedberg
Hi David, I haven't read perlembed yet, and I've never embed anything. Perl is implemented with a large shareable image (perlshr.exe), so it should be "a piece cake" as the russians used to say... Keep us posted on your progress, this sounds really like the right stuff... VMS and perl! Don't

RE: new VMS::FindFile perl module

2000-09-22 Thread Carl Friedberg
net::ftp with just where to look to find the real error status when a connection is dropped or ? Best of luck, and thanks for making this available. Carl Friedberg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Forrest Cahoon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 8

RE: [patch: perl@7045] vms updates - IEEE build

2000-09-13 Thread Carl Friedberg
Sebastian, I don't agree on this one. I think the internal data format should be the one predominantly used on the platform. The fact that some database might use a different format can easily be handled in the glue in xs, or whatever. I've never used pack myself, so I'm not up on what the

RE: [patch: perl@7045] vms updates - IEEE build

2000-09-13 Thread Carl Friedberg
, September 13, 2000 4:44 PM To: BAZLEY, Sebastian Cc: 'Carl Friedberg'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [patch: perl@7045] vms updates - IEEE build On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, BAZLEY, Sebastian wrote: -Original Message- From: Carl Friedberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 September 2000 19

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