We have some experience in industrial size ozone generating systems in the
1000PPD and above range.
What's a PPD?
Ozone gas is so stubborn that it resists mixing with water, the residual
properties are
extremely short lived and it is deadly.
Not deadly (I read somewhere that no casualty
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From: Michel Jullian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 3:20 AM
Subject: Re: [VO]:Re: Ozone and isotopes of O by microwave exitation
We have some experience in industrial size ozone generating systems in the
1000PPD and above
Michel Jullian wrote:
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From: Edmund Storms [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 11:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Cold Fusion skeptic Dr. Michael Shermer
The input in my case was about 0.5 watt with 2.5 watts excess. The ratio
looks
Kyle R. Mcallister wrote:
I seriously doubt that the hidden costs of your use of electricity
is completely covered by what you pay.
That is correct.
Want to pay more?
Yes, I do want to pay more, and I shall, as soon as green
electricity becomes available. I have signed up for it.
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From: R.C.Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: [VO]:Re: Ozone and isotopes of O by microwave exitation
We have some experience in industrial size ozone generating systems in the
1000PPD and above
Edmund Storms wrote:
Excess energy from electrolysis is seldom over unity. Energy in
excess of that applied to the cell is the only important measurement
during such studies. My latest excess energy is about 2.5 W for a
calorimeter with an error of about 25 mW. The cell was not designed
to
Since you know them all and for a reason, a link to a CF paper describing a COP
of the order that ED described (6) would be welcome Jed. TIA
Michel
- Original Message -
From: Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-L@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:
On 3/11/07, Kyle R. Mcallister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Who pays the hidden costs of extracting that nuclear fuel, and cleaning up
the radioactive crap belched out by these facilities? None of them are
clean, they leak radioactive water into the environment all the time.
Actually, for a given
Subject: Negentropy - honed to a point
I am hoping to ad this 'Subject line' to the prior thread, which went
astray in cyberspace. Have we yet determined why this happens: the blank
subject line?
Does it have anything to do with the confluence of entropy and
information g or is it something
On 3/13/07, Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kyle R. Mcallister wrote:
Tell that to Freeman Dyson, Richard Lindzen, Fred Singer, etc. They
question what is going on.
Dyson also does not believe in cold fusion. I do not know about these
others. But it is not a matter of opinion; it is a
Paul Lowrance wrote:
Hi,
Does anyone have access to a long wavelength LED = 1300 nm? If so then
I would ***very much*** appreciate it if you could perform a simple
voltage measurement experiment, or better yet I would be more than happy
to purchase your mid-IR LED.
Regards,
Paul
John Berry wrote:
Dyson also does not believe in cold fusion. I do not know about these
others. But it is not a matter of opinion; it is a matter of fact --
that is, scientific evidence. If these people deny the facts about
cold fusion or global warming, and you beleive them, you have have
made
Terry Blanton wrote:
On 3/11/07, Kyle R. Mcallister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Who pays the hidden costs of extracting that nuclear fuel, and cleaning up
the radioactive crap belched out by these facilities? None of them are
clean, they leak radioactive water into the environment all the time.
Hi,
Important email. If you don't like reading big emails then please scroll down
till you see the header IMPORTANT.
I know that an LED can capture some black body radiation and convert it to DC
electrical energy. Unfortunately, as far as I know not until recently LED's were
unable to emit
Michel Jullian wrote:
Since you know them all and for a reason, a link to a CF paper
describing a COP of the order that ED described (6) would be welcome Jed. TIA
I cannot think of any offhand. Most researchers do not report input
electrolysis power for the reasons described by Ed. Mitchell
Er... Jed, are you saying that most CF papers reporting excess heat do not
report input power (or energy), nor output power (or energy) !? Or just that
they don't use the term COP?
Michel
- Original Message -
From: Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-L@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday,
Michel Jullian wrote:
Er... Jed, are you saying that most CF papers reporting excess heat
do not report input power (or energy), nor output power (or energy) !?
They often report excess power or energy, which is output minus
input. Of course there are papers that report all values. However,
I wrote:
Er... Jed, are you saying that most CF papers reporting excess heat
do not report input power (or energy), nor output power (or energy) !?
They often report excess power or energy, which is output minus
input. Of course there are papers that report all values.
Some papers report
Thanks Jed but IMHO a CF paper claiming excess heat which wouldn't state -or
provide the data to derive- the values which were subtracted from each other to
derive it, would be definitely incomplete. A proper description of such an
experiment would obviously state not only the values found, but
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:36:34 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
However, Graneau et al. have shown that lowly water, at lest some types
of H2O, *does* have an unexplained energy component which can be
released. One of their papers also appears in Infinite Energy.
[snip]
Since
In reply to Paul Lowrance's message of Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:58:36 -0800:
Hi Paul,
[snip]
your LED46 generates a lot of noise. If your LED generates a lot of voltage
noise then a great deal of physicists around the world that I'm in contact
with
and I would purchase the LED's.
[snip]
If this
On 3/12/07, Michel Jullian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks Jed but IMHO
'H'??? I have seen no evidence of this.
T
I wrote:
Some papers report only the excess power normalized to volume of Pd,
which is annoying. Especially when you have no idea what the volume
of Pd is. See, for example, Table 10, p. 44 in this otherwise excellent paper:
http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MilesManomalousea.pdf
This is
Many CF researchers like to compare CF cells to a mini nuclear fission
reactor, but instead of fission process providing the excess heat, it is a
low temperature fusion process. This is why they tend not to be interested
in power measurements and focus on energy measurements instead. Basically,
Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
However, Graneau et al. have shown that lowly water, at lest some types
of H2O, *does* have an unexplained energy component which can be
released. One of their papers also appears in Infinite Energy.
Since they use high voltage electrical discharges to accomplish
I don't know the particular experiment you mention Jones, but what I do know
for having done extensive work on the subject is that pulsed power such as can
be found in electrical discharges, especially sparky ones, is extremely
difficult to measure.
I fully agree that much more of the big oil
Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
In reply to Paul Lowrance's message of Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:58:36 -0800:
Hi Paul,
[snip]
your LED46 generates a lot of noise. If your LED generates a lot of voltage
noise then a great deal of physicists around the world that I'm in contact
with
and I would
Sure, but then the COP can be calculated from the energy measurements, since
both input and output are measured over the same duration.
Michel
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From: Harry Veeder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 12:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:
As a cold fusion researcher, I can tell you that your opinion is not
correct. First of all, cold fusion is only cold because the energy
provided by a high temperature, as is necessary for hot fusion too work,
is not needed for cold fusion. Second, cold fusion and hot fusion make
energy by
On 3/12/07, Michel Jullian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, you would have if you had looked carefully Terry. As recently as today, I
admitted humbly I had been wrong in stating that ozone was not deadly. I am the
humblest person you can imagine, I even go out of my way to point out my errors
There is an uproar rising among the conspiracy-theory-crowd over what is
being labeled as yet another 9/11 smoking gun - but this time from
across the Atlantic.
Last week an independent researcher, reviewing video archives of the
BBC's 9/11 coverage, divulged the earth-shaking incongruence. A
- Original Message -
From: Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 12:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Cold Fusion skeptic Dr. Michael Shermer
On 3/12/07, Michel Jullian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, you would have if you had looked carefully
On 3/12/07, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The truth will out ... given enough time.
Hopefully it will be recognizable.
Just to pheul your phire:
http://www.conspiracy-times.com/content/view/30/1
Terry
On 3/12/07, Michel Jullian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No I am not him sorry, never been to Montreal. I am a real Frenchman, not a
maple syrup drinking one with a funny accent living on an unhospitable
continent :)
\/,,
`
Alors, merde.
-Transgenic orangutan in Michael Crighton's Next.
T
On 3/12/07, Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
-Transgenic orangutan in Michael Crighton's Next.
Crichton.
Je ne peux pas orthographier .
T
Jed, who is humble too, wrote:
... So that was a dumb thing for me to say.
Now, Edmund, could you please refrain your own humility and kindly recommend
one of your FP excess heat experimental papers? I am not familiar with FP as
you know. I am looking for good experimental papers on the
There must be something in the air in Texas, lending itself to ultra
high efficiency electrolysis. This one is at .9 volts.
http://www.fuelcellsworks.com/Supppage7024.html
AirGen’s technology has the potential to replace conventional water
electrolysis as the most prevalent method of hydrogen
Didn't you mean Merde, alors (expressing one's surprise) rather? Merde,
alors, tu n'es pas canadien?
Alors, merde is generally used to express impatience: Alors, merde, ça
vient?
Michel Jullian, Of the proper use of the word 'merde'
- Original Message -
From: Terry Blanton [EMAIL
On 3/12/07, Michel Jullian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alors, merde is generally used to express impatience: Alors, merde, ça
vient?
As stated, a quotation from a book.
T
Howdy Jones,
The three views of happenings at 911 have been solidified.
One view believes conspiracy
One view believes the government report
One view cannot decide.
Beer drinkers at the Dime Box saloon don't care what happened.
They can buy a tale of a 110 floor building pancaking down in
R.C.Macaulay wrote:
For certain.. Halliburton announced today that they are moving their
headquarters to Dubai from Houston.. Hmmm.
Richard
Dubya's Dubai.
Harry
On Sunday 04 March 2007 00:33, thomas malloy wrote:
Standing Bear wrote:
Hmmm...let the buyer beware. Say Alex manages to sell the big casino,
the one for over half a billion..thats billion with a 'b' sports fans..,
I would think that any buyer with over half a billion simoleans to blow
More detail in this pdf file:
http://arxiv.org/pdf/quant-ph/0702188
Harry
http://www.physorg.com/news92937814.html
Physicists Modify Double-Slit Experiment to Confirm Einstein's Belief
Work completed by physics professors at Rowan University shows that light is
made of particles
What makes you sure that COP measurements are not vital to understanding
the phenomena?
Harry
Edmund Storms wrote:
As a cold fusion researcher, I can tell you that your opinion is not
correct. First of all, cold fusion is only cold because the energy
provided by a high temperature, as is
Yes...assuming they are measured over the same period of time.
Harry
Michel Jullian wrote:
Sure, but then the COP can be calculated from the energy measurements, since
both input and output are measured over the same duration.
Michel
- Original Message -
From: Harry Veeder
Jed Rothwell wrote:
John Berry wrote:
Dyson also does not believe in cold fusion. I do not know about these
others. But it is not a matter of opinion; it is a matter of fact --
that is, scientific evidence. If these people deny the facts about
cold fusion or global warming, and you
Kyle R. Mcallister wrote:
People will starve, riot, the cities will burn.
and engagements will be called off.
Harry
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