Dear Vo and Jed,
Either you you do not read what you write ...OR
You are reporting matters outof context
[a] In an aqueous electrolytic system the anode and the cathode are not
supposed to touch.
[b] what the Bleet Hawses are you trying to communicate...???
JHS
I
On 3/13/07, Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
John Berry wrote:
Dyson also does not believe in cold fusion. I do not know about these
others. But it is not a matter of opinion; it is a matter of fact --
that is, scientific evidence. If these people deny the facts about
cold fusion or
Dear Vortex and Jed,
I post a 'cut-and-paste' from one of Jed's posts.
NB..please see comment, below...
No, because you'd never base everything on a an appeal to authority
would you?
No, I never do. I had excellent teachers and I learned to avoid all
of the common logical errors
John, I figured since you're active I might get your opinion on Podkletnov's
more recent experiments (admittedly not that recent, just not the old ones
you successfully replicated) accomplished by discharges from a high voltage
source.
Since that is a souped up replication of the Morton effect
Richard, did you hear the latest news?
BBC reported 20 minutes before WTC7 collapsed that it had collapsed.
But they didn't say WTC7, if they had you might have thought they got their
numbers muddled, they called it by it's full name, the Solomon Brothers
Building which they mentioned had after
BlankHarry wrote..
An article on the work titled Paradox in Wave-Particle Duality recently
published in Foundations of Physics, a prestigious, refereed academic
journal, supports Albert Einstein¹s long-debated belief that quantum physics
is incomplete. For eight decades the scientific community
Jones Beene wrote:
... Last week an independent researcher, reviewing
video archives of the BBC's 9/11 coverage, divulged the
earth-shaking incongruence. A BBC reporter in Manhattan
- the lady-talking-head at the center of this forming
vortex - as she was reading the news to Brits - with the
WTC
John Berry wrote:
A ha, so now who is an authority on pancaking skyscrapers?
No one.
As noted previously, the people at Controlled Demolition are experts
at pancaking skyscrapers. They have destroyed thousands of
structures, some as large as municipal stadiums. Also, the people at
NIST are
john herman wrote:
Either you you do not read what you write ...OR
You are reporting matters outof context
[a] In an aqueous electrolytic system the anode and the cathode are not
supposed to touch.
[b] what the Bleet Hawses are you trying to communicate...???
Just what I
Harry Veeder wrote:
What makes you sure that COP measurements are not vital to understanding
the phenomena?
I think this question is addressed to Ed Storms, but he is probably
sick of responding, so let me answer one last time.
The required level input power is governed by mundane
Michel Jullian wrote:
Now, Edmund, could you please refrain your own humility and kindly
recommend one of your FP excess heat experimental papers? I am not
familiar with FP as you know. I am looking for good experimental
papers on the subject, notably one of yours if you could advise me.
Hi Harry,
I've been lightly following the Afshar experiment for some time at WikiPedia.
The article --
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afshar_experiment
and the discussion --
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Afshar_experiment
Has there been a recent change in this debate? Last I checked the
This was discussed here yesterday:
Storms, E., Anomalous Heat Produced by Electrolysis of Palladium
using a Heavy-Water Electrolyte. 2007, LENR-CANR.org.
http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/StormsEanomalousha.pdf
- Jed
On 3/14/07, Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
John Berry wrote:
A ha, so now who is an authority on pancaking skyscrapers?
No one.
As noted previously, the people at Controlled Demolition are experts
at pancaking skyscrapers. They have destroyed thousands of
structures, some as large as
On 3/14/07, Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
john herman wrote:
Either you you do not read what you write ...OR
You are reporting matters outof context
[a] In an aqueous electrolytic system the anode and the cathode are not
supposed to touch.
[b] what the Bleet Hawses
John Berry wrote:
I think Biberian is still pursuing this. His biggest problem is that
the anode and cathode heat up and lose contact. In other words, they
do not touch, which causes a failure -- the opposite from liquid
electrolysis.
Wow, you must have some creative reading ability to
John Berry wrote:
You say they are experts of pancaking buildings and yet you don't
cite a single case where they have pulled a single floor (in an
otherwise unweakened building) and had it pancake at freefall speeds.
This has happened hundreds of times. NIST and others have detailed
Depending on which version (in time) of Wiki one happens to get hold-of,
under the cold fusion entry - you may or may not find the Szpak et al.
electron-capture model mentioned, and instead there will be this:
In 2005, Alan Widom and Lewis Larsen proposed a theory that could
explain the
Hi,
The following is an important consideration for those interested in the very
real upcoming technology that will capture significant continuous energy day or
night from ambient temperature (surrounding air and Earth).
Silicon and Germanium are what is called *Indirect band gap* material.
More discoveries. It appears a HgTe photodiode is just about the ultimate
material for this research. It has a band gap of zero eV! Various amounts of Cd
(Hg[x-1]Cd[x]Te) increases the band gap to whatever value you want. Here are
some interesting quotes --
Quote #1 from WikiPedia:
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Paul,
I don't know.
The Afshar experiment is new to me.
Harry
Paul Lowrance wrote:
Hi Harry,
I've been lightly following the Afshar experiment for some time at WikiPedia.
The article --
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afshar_experiment
and the discussion --
Harry Veeder wrote:
So most reseachers claim they (implicitly) know enough about the phenomena
to improve the COP, but it is beneath them to test this claim??
No, that is not what I mean. Please read the message more carefully
and stop putting words in my mouth.
Anyone with knowledge of
Just curious if other people get periodic bothersome PM's from a user at
overunity.com by the name Freedomfuel. He just sent me another PM --
Quote:
---
Hi paul
We have to face up to the fact that there are real national security and public
safety issues with 'free energy' and that this is
Jed Rothwell wrote:
Harry Veeder wrote:
So most reseachers claim they (implicitly) know enough about the phenomena
to improve the COP, but it is beneath them to test this claim??
No, that is not what I mean. Please read the message more carefully
and stop putting words in my mouth.
You
Try buying surplus night vision goggles, or another
component that has the device you want. You might be
able to scavenge parts...
Just a thought
G
--- Paul Lowrance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
More discoveries. It appears a HgTe photodiode is
just about the ultimate
material for this
Harry Veeder wrote:
point to bothering with them. We can improve the COP anytime, but
that proves nothing and contributes nothing to our understanding of
the phenomenon.
It is hypothetical until you try it. It may be that the conditions
which they think will increase the COP actual decrease
Hi Paul,
What Freedomfuel doesn't want to accept is that my research is based on
old classical physics! Furthermore, as just one of many examples, modern
society is killing this planet from gas burning machines.
Actually, they would be more interested in your research if you could prove
it is
David Thomson wrote:
Hi Paul,
What Freedomfuel doesn't want to accept is that my research is based on
old classical physics! Furthermore, as just one of many examples, modern
society is killing this planet from gas burning machines.
Actually, they would be more interested in your research
Howdy Paul,
You may try contacting Leupold Stevens Instrument Company in
Beaverton/Portland, Oregon. They do some work in this area with night vision
scopes. They are good people.
Richard
- Original Message -
From: Paul Lowrance [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent:
Howdy Paul,
I thought you may have picked up on my comment regarding light has weight
and expand on it.
Richard
- Original Message -
From: Paul Lowrance [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: MIB persuasions
David Thomson
Hi Paul,
No, the thugs are concerned about the release of advanced technology.
You're thinking of the science community,
There is technically no such thing as advanced technology that is not
defined as science that works.
The imagined thugs are no more than scientists asking you to put up
David Thomson wrote:
Hi Paul,
No, the thugs are concerned about the release of advanced technology.
You're thinking of the science community,
There is technically no such thing as advanced technology that is not
defined as science that works.
Advanced technology is leading edge
- Jed
I think you mean the ratio of chemical energy out (energy stored in
electrolysis products H2 and O2, which you can recover as heat by recombining
them) to electrical energy in. This ratio is close to but cannot exceed one,
and not only won't it make any useful difference to improve it,
Michel Jullian wrote:
- Jed
I think you mean the ratio of chemical energy out (energy stored in
electrolysis products H2 and O2, which you can recover as heat by recombining
them) to electrical energy in. This ratio is close to but cannot exceed one,
and not only won't it make any useful
Harry Veeder wrote:-
They claim that they know how to improve the COP of a cold fusion cell!
So I cam calling on them to TEST the claim. This is not engineering request.
It is a scientific request!
This COP you are talking about is the ratio of input electrical power to
output heat. Jed was
I'll let you find the error yourself it's quite obvious. Same error in the two
quotes.
Michel
- Original Message -
From: Edmund Storms [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Cold Fusion skeptic Dr. Michael Shermer
...
- Ed
Hi Paul,
No, my definition of thugs is people working for the cause to suppress
technology considered dangerous in the hands of terrorists or rogue
countries such as Iran or North Korea.
You mean like machine guns, hand grenades, and nuclear bombs? It's a little
late for that, don't you
Take your time, I'll go offline now. Talk to you tomorrow.
Michel
- Original Message -
From: Michel Jullian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Cold Fusion skeptic Dr. Michael Shermer
I'll let you find the error
Jed Rothwell wrote:
Harry Veeder wrote:
point to bothering with them. We can improve the COP anytime, but
that proves nothing and contributes nothing to our understanding of
the phenomenon.
It is hypothetical until you try it. It may be that the conditions
which they think will increase
No offense, but IMHO this conversation is silly and a waste of time. I
generally prefer to converse with people at Vo that are primarily interested in
research geared toward generating so-called free energy. Are you are working
on such research? If it's fine with you, lets try and put an end
Nick Palmer wrote:
Harry Veeder wrote:-
They claim that they know how to improve the COP of a cold fusion cell!
So I cam calling on them to TEST the claim. This is not engineering request.
It is a scientific request!
This COP you are talking about is the ratio of input electrical power to
Hi Paul,
No offense, but IMHO this conversation is silly and a waste of time. I
generally prefer to converse with people at Vo that are primarily interested
in research geared toward generating so-called free energy. Are you are
working on such research? If it's fine with you, lets try and
Loud Explosion effect similar to hypothesized scalar
interferometry. Ravenna(Portage Co Ohio) Military
arsenal near epicenter; Folks near center not
experience shock wave but outwards from center shock
wave evident at 3.6 on Richter scale. Effects
predominant ALONG OHIO TURNPIKE FROM EAST TO WEST
Howdy David and Paul,
Please don't throw things in the saloon in Dime Box Texas. Someone may break
the mirror behind the bar with the picture of the nekkid woman and get a
fight started.
Richard
R.C.Macaulay wrote:
Harry wrote..
An article on the work titled Paradox in Wave-Particle Duality recently
published in Foundations of Physics, a prestigious, refereed academic
journal, supports Albert Einsteins long-debated belief that quantum physics
is incomplete. For eight decades the
David Thomson wrote:
Hi Paul,
No offense, but IMHO this conversation is silly and a waste of time. I
generally prefer to converse with people at Vo that are primarily interested
in research geared toward generating so-called free energy. Are you are
working on such research? If it's fine
Hi Paul,
Can you understand the difference between my research focused on capturing
usable ambient temperature energy and your extensive Aether theory?
Yes, my theory is based upon real math, your research is based upon
dreams. That is not rhetoric, it is a fact.
Seriously, can you
hi so what do you lot think of vladimir b ginzburg?
seems to be slightly touched in the head about vortices!
its a shame his website helicola.com is offline - but he has published 3
books, 3 of which are on amazon. seems fun, he even has a thing called the 3
dimensional spiral super-string
David Thomson wrote:
Hi Paul,
Can you understand the difference between my research focused on capturing
usable ambient temperature energy and your extensive Aether theory?
Yes, my theory is based upon real math, your research is based upon
dreams. That is not rhetoric, it is a fact.
In reply to Harvey Norris's message of Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:45:46 -0700 (PDT):
Hi,
[snip]
Loud Explosion effect similar to hypothesized scalar
interferometry. Ravenna(Portage Co Ohio) Military
arsenal near epicenter; Folks near center not
experience shock wave but outwards from center shock
wave
Paul and David posted
Are you the guy with the Aether theory of everything?
If so then when are you going to start on the list provided in
another thread?
Are you telling me what to do? Would you like me to tell you what to
do?
Please take a look at what you replied to. Both of my
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