RE: [Vo]:Tesla Revisted

2007-06-09 Thread Jeff Fink
So, why can’t people living within a few hundred feet of high voltage transmission lines tap useful “free” power with a 60 Hz receiver circuit? Jeff _ From: John Berry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 11:57 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Tesla

Re: [Vo]:Tesla Revisted

2007-06-09 Thread Michel Jullian
Essentially it's a transformer primary winding with an open secondary winding. Indeed a primary with an open secondary behaves like a pure inductor, so it's a purely reactive load, so current in it can be made to oscillate non dissipatively (assuming resistance of the coil is negligible). In

[Vo]:Nanosolar loses chief scientist | Tech news blog - CNET News.com

2007-06-09 Thread Michel Jullian
http://news.com.com/8301-10784_3-9727336-7.html?tag=yt Chris Eberspacher, a recognized expert in thin film technology and one of the higher-level technical executives at Nanosolar, has left the company. Eberspacher had been serving as chief scientist for the company, and before that he was the

[Vo]:Fw: [BOBPARKS-WHATSNEW] What's New Friday June1, 2007

2007-06-09 Thread Akira Kawasaki
-Forwarded Message-by Akira Kawasaki From: What's New [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jun 8, 2007 10:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [BOBPARKS-WHATSNEW] What's New Friday June1, 2007 WHAT'S NEW Robert L. Park Friday, 7 Jun 07 Washington, DC 1. IRAQ: TO WHAT PROBLEM IS THE TROOP

Re: [Vo]:Britannica electrolysis concise article corrected

2007-06-09 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jun 8, 2007, at 9:31 PM, Michael Foster wrote: Is there no one who remembers practical chemistry anymore? ... What actually happens to a strong sodium chloride solution under electrolysis is considerably more complex. Depending on the current density and the temperature, the electrolyte

Re: [Vo]:Tesla Revisted

2007-06-09 Thread Harry Veeder
A DC current in a straight wire won't emit radio waves. A DC current in a coiled wire will emit radio waves, but with little power. Harry On 9/6/2007 6:14 AM, Michel Jullian wrote: Essentially it's a transformer primary winding with an open secondary winding. Indeed a primary with an

[Vo]:Witricity scheme (was Re:Tesla Revisted)

2007-06-09 Thread Michel Jullian
Whatever the shape of the wire a DC current can't emit radio waves AFAIK. The witricity experimental device uses AC at MHz frequencies (cf the link I provided, here it is again http://www.mit.edu/~soljacic/MIT_WiTricity_Press_Release.pdf ) Michel - Original Message - From: Harry

Re: [Vo]:Tesla Revisted

2007-06-09 Thread Michael Foster
Michel wrote: Indeed a primary with an open secondary behaves like a pure inductor, so it's a purely reactive load, so current in it can be made to oscillate non dissipatively (assuming resistance of the coil is negligible). In terms of transformer it makes perfect sense. But in terms

Re: [Vo]:Witricity scheme (was Re:Tesla Revisted)

2007-06-09 Thread Harry Veeder
The article doesn't appear to contain the term AC. It only speaks of an electrical current although it describes the magnetic field as oscillating at MHz frequencies. Perhaps this is inaccurate. Perhaps it is more correct to say the oscillation starts only when both the power supply (sender)

Re: [Vo]:Fw: [BOBPARKS-WHATSNEW] What's New Friday June1, 2007

2007-06-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robert Park wrote: 3. MEXICO: SOMETHING THERE IS THAT DOESN'T LOVE A WALL. The bipartisan immigration reform bill failed in the Senate in the early morning hours today. Other Great walls have not worked well. That is incorrect. Park probably made that up. Why does he comment on subjects he

Re: [Vo]:Tesla Revisted

2007-06-09 Thread William Beaty
On Fri, 8 Jun 2007, Michel Jullian wrote: On the how it works side, has anybody understood the difference between this MHz resonant magnetic coupling device and a radio emitter with a tuned receiver? Any EM antenna behaves as a hole in an opaque plate. A coil 10cm in diameter behaves as a

Re: [Vo]:Tesla Revisted

2007-06-09 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Jeff Fink's message of Sat, 9 Jun 2007 07:00:25 -0400: Hi, [snip] So, why can’t people living within a few hundred feet of high voltage transmission lines tap useful “free” power with a 60 Hz receiver circuit? [snip] Are you sure they can't? Regards, Robin van Spaandonk The shrub

Re: [Vo]:Witricity scheme (was Re:Tesla Revisted)

2007-06-09 Thread Michel Jullian
Regarding DC current and radio waves, I was basing my claim on the fact than electrons made to move in a circle radiate radio waves. So they do, my mistake, that's called synchrotron or cyclotron radiation (or light). All accelerated charges radiate, so I suppose that in theory a radio

Re: [Vo]:Witricity scheme (was Re:Tesla Revisted)

2007-06-09 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Michel Jullian's message of Sat, 9 Jun 2007 19:26:17 +0200: Hi, [snip] Whatever the shape of the wire a DC current can't emit radio waves AFAIK. The witricity experimental device uses AC at MHz frequencies (cf the link I provided, here it is again

Re: [Vo]:Britannica electrolysis concise article corrected

2007-06-09 Thread Michel Jullian
Horace wrote: ... At local state well operator classes I've seen an actual demonstration of a MIOX pocket pen run by AA batteries. The MIOX is produced in the pen by electrolysis and then mixed with a much larger volume of water to be decontaminated. The pen was produced for the

Re: [Vo]:Steorn energy source?

2007-06-09 Thread Esa Ruoho
found this: http://www.eskimo.com/~eresrch/Steorn/

RE: [Vo]:Tesla Revisted

2007-06-09 Thread Michael Foster
Jeff Fink wrote: So, why can’t people living within a few hundred feet of high voltage transmission lines tap useful “free” power with a 60 Hz receiver circuit? They can and have. You don't see it anymore, but I used to read of the occasional farmer caught at this sort of thing, usually

Re: [Vo]:Tesla Revisted

2007-06-09 Thread John Berry
Look at Stubblefields wireless telephone, it was loops of wire at audio (not radio) frequencies and IMO worked better than conventional EM would consider possible. The magnetic field caught a lift rather literally, indeed here are devices that can make rather impressive magnetic beams or in one

Re: [Vo]:Tesla Revisted

2007-06-09 Thread John Berry
Kind of obvious but... Harry, a DC current in a coil will not emit and radio waves, I think you made a mistake. The following is reasonably accurate however. A flat DC current creates no radiowaves at all regardless of conductor shape. An AC current in a straight wire will emit radio waves. An

Re: [Vo]:Britannica electrolysis concise article corrected

2007-06-09 Thread Horace Heffner
I just found a good description of todays pen products: http://www.nitro-pak.com/product_info.php? cPath=40_184products_id=1006osCsid=ef4204c620e93c98e8fd19daadda6ef7 The pen they show is larger than the metal one I saw, and made of plastic it appears. The $129.95 price tag is military

Re: [Vo]:Britannica electrolysis concise article corrected

2007-06-09 Thread Michel Jullian
Thanks! There is also this apparently very informative ongoing online discussion I just found: http://stuff.silverorange.com/archives/2004/september/msrmioxpurifier Michel - Original Message - From: Horace Heffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007

Re: [Vo]:Britannica electrolysis concise article corrected

2007-06-09 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jun 9, 2007, at 3:00 PM, Michel Jullian wrote: Horace wrote: ... At local state well operator classes I've seen an actual demonstration of a MIOX pocket pen run by AA batteries. The MIOX is produced in the pen by electrolysis and then mixed with a much larger volume of water to be

Re: [Vo]:Witricity scheme (was Re:Tesla Revisted)

2007-06-09 Thread John Berry
Ah, no. Electrons in wires generally move far far far too slow to produce synchrotron or cyclotron radiation at a radiofrequency and while I'm not 100% sure I believe that a uniform current in all parts of the loop would remove this effect. DC is still DC if pulsed and will create radiowaves. On

[Vo]:em waves and pocket calculators/was Witricity scheme

2007-06-09 Thread Harry Veeder
On 9/6/2007 7:31 PM, John Berry wrote: Ah, no. Electrons in wires generally move far far far too slow to produce synchrotron or cyclotron radiation at a radiofrequency and while I'm not 100% sure I believe that a uniform current in all parts of the loop would remove this effect. DC is still DC if

Re: [Vo]:em waves and pocket calculators/was Witricity scheme

2007-06-09 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Sat, 09 Jun 2007 22:07:05 -0500: Hi, [snip] Many years ago, before ipods and mp3 players, I had a sony walkman with a radio turner. I found that if a pocket calculator were switched on and placed on top of the walkman I could move the tuner's dial to

Re: [Vo]:Britannica electrolysis concise article corrected

2007-06-09 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jun 9, 2007, at 4:53 PM, Michel Jullian wrote: Thanks! There is also this apparently very informative ongoing online discussion I just found: http://stuff.silverorange.com/archives/2004/september/msrmioxpurifier That is an incredible wealth of information! A lot of it reliable too,

Re: [Vo]:Tesla Revisted

2007-06-09 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to John Berry's message of Sun, 10 Jun 2007 11:34:57 +1200: Hi, [snip] Look into Earl Ammann if your interested in distant transmission of electrical energy. [snip] I did, and combined this with Tesla to come up with the following based on the MIT work. Most of the kinetic energy in the

[Vo]:the Firestorm Plug

2007-06-09 Thread thomas malloy
Vortexians; My friend has been working with Robert Krupa, the inventor of the Firestorm spark plug. He showed me a paper written by the inventor. It contains some pictures (drawings.) I was unable to find a digitized version of the paper. Given the claims of a 30+% increase in fuel

[Vo]:Tesla Revisted

2007-06-09 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
Hi, BTW, the lower Van Allen belt extends from about 700 to 1 km above the surface, so the average distance is about 5000 km, which matches a frequency of 60 Hz. Tesla's magic number anyone? ;) Regards, Robin van Spaandonk The shrub is a plant.

Re: [Vo]:the Firestorm Plug

2007-06-09 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to thomas malloy's message of Sat, 09 Jun 2007 22:52:04 -0500: Hi Thomas, [snip] Vortexians; My friend has been working with Robert Krupa, the inventor of the Firestorm spark plug. He showed me a paper written by the inventor. It contains some pictures (drawings.) I was unable to find