Re: [Vo]:50,000kW/h 57000eur costing water vortex power plant..

2007-07-01 Thread Terry Blanton
On 6/30/07, Esa Ruoho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://blog.hasslberger.com/2007/06/water_vortex_drives_power_plan.html The *diameter* of the vortex basin is 5 meters. The *head* - difference between the two water levels - is 1.6 meters. The turbine produced *50.000 kw/h* in its first year of

Re: [Vo]:50,000kW/h 57000eur costing water vortex power plant..

2007-07-01 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jul 1, 2007, at 5:51 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: On 6/30/07, Esa Ruoho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://blog.hasslberger.com/2007/06/ water_vortex_drives_power_plan.html The diameter of the vortex basin is 5 meters. The head - difference between the two water levels - is 1.6 meters. The

Re: [Vo]:50,000kW/h 57000eur costing water vortex power plant..

2007-07-01 Thread Paul Lowrance
Horace Heffner wrote: On Jul 1, 2007, at 5:51 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: On 6/30/07, Esa Ruoho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://blog.hasslberger.com/2007/06/water_vortex_drives_power_plan.html The diameter of the vortex basin is 5 meters. The head - difference between the two water levels -

Re: [VO]:Steorn SPDC caution!

2007-07-01 Thread Paul Lowrance
Horace Heffner wrote: On Jul 1, 2007, at 5:51 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: On 6/30/07, Esa Ruoho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://blog.hasslberger.com/2007/06/water_vortex_drives_power_plan.html The diameter of the vortex basin is 5 meters. The head - difference between the two water levels -

Re: [Vo]:50,000kW/h 57000eur costing water vortex power plant..

2007-07-01 Thread Terry Blanton
On 7/1/07, Horace Heffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That structure with turbine is easily adapted to driving an underwater pump for water lifts for irrigation. Yes. I am working on a public demonstration of a high efficiency motor whose torque/load relationship must remain constant. I have

Re: [VO]:Steorn SPDC caution!

2007-07-01 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jun 29, 2007, at 1:06 PM, Paul Lowrance wrote: There's a lot of talk about the verbiage used in Steorns NDA. I'd bet this NDA would kill any chance of me patenting any future successful Free Energy machine. Hopefully you are aware that anything patentable that you have created and

Re: [VO]:Steorn SPDC caution!

2007-07-01 Thread Paul Lowrance
Horace Heffner wrote: On Jun 29, 2007, at 1:06 PM, Paul Lowrance wrote: There's a lot of talk about the verbiage used in Steorns NDA. I'd bet this NDA would kill any chance of me patenting any future successful Free Energy machine. Hopefully you are aware that anything patentable that you

Re: [VO]:Steorn SPDC caution!

2007-07-01 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jul 1, 2007, at 10:43 AM, Paul Lowrance wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: On Jun 29, 2007, at 1:06 PM, Paul Lowrance wrote: There's a lot of talk about the verbiage used in Steorns NDA. I'd bet this NDA would kill any chance of me patenting any future successful Free Energy machine.

Re: [VO]:Steorn SPDC caution!

2007-07-01 Thread Paul Lowrance
Horace Heffner wrote: On Jul 1, 2007, at 10:43 AM, Paul Lowrance wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: On Jun 29, 2007, at 1:06 PM, Paul Lowrance wrote: There's a lot of talk about the verbiage used in Steorns NDA. I'd bet this NDA would kill any chance of me patenting any future successful Free

Re: [VO]:Steorn SPDC caution!

2007-07-01 Thread Terry Blanton
You should consider: http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/provapp.htm Terry On 7/1/07, Paul Lowrance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: On Jul 1, 2007, at 10:43 AM, Paul Lowrance wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: On Jun 29, 2007, at 1:06 PM, Paul Lowrance wrote: There's a lot of

Re: [VO]:Steorn SPDC caution!

2007-07-01 Thread Paul Lowrance
That's a good idea. Last time I checked the provisional fee was ~$200. Also there are companies that charge about the same, which they will publish your work in a paper magazine issue and an online magazine, which legally holds up in the U.S. court of law. Regards, Paul Lowrance Terry

Re: [VO]:Steorn SPDC caution!

2007-07-01 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jul 1, 2007, at 11:59 AM, Paul Lowrance wrote: Are you saying that if the inventor freely publishes it on the web that it can actually prevent the inventor from obtaining a patent, but anyone else can obtain a patent on the invention??? Not necessarily anyone else. If someone else

Re: [Vo]:50,000kW/h 57000eur costing water vortex power plant..

2007-07-01 Thread Michael Foster
Terry Blanton wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: That structure with turbine is easily adapted to driving an underwater pump for water lifts for irrigation. Yes. I am working on a public demonstration of a high efficiency motor whose torque/load relationship must remain constant. I have

Re: [Vo]:Griggs Device Observations

2007-07-01 Thread Michael Foster
Jed wrote: Michael Foster wrote: The heat was detected from the outside of the aluminum tubing, so I'm not sure that the specific heat of the liquid itself is a factor here. OTOH, I'm a pretty fair inventor, but a rotten scientist. The heat was measured in terms of hotter than hell in a

Re: [Vo]:Griggs Device Observations

2007-07-01 Thread Jones Beene
Michael, I don't think Jed meant anything personal with his comments. You are first of all a businessman, and have that overriding obligation - ahead of experimental rigor. He may not have realized that. However, it would be helpful to others if you could expound, even anecdotally, on your