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2007-07-03 Thread Michel Jullian
- Original Message - From: Horace Heffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 6:11 AM ... I thought there was a chance it was due to my ISP changing their spam filter. However, I checked and it is only showing up on vortex posts. My other email

[Vo]:Re: Quark mass

2007-07-03 Thread Jones Beene
Horace Heffner wrote: So some of the mass, 0.45373 MeV/c2, comes from slowing down, denergizing, the nucleus. This mass is strangely close to the mass of the electron, 0.506667 MeV/c2. Curiouser and curiouser. ... and in the big-picture (which does seem to superficially support the various

Re: [Vo]:Re: Quark mass

2007-07-03 Thread Michel Jullian
Jones wrote: In any event, perhaps someone (with thick skin and large cajones) should http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cajones - 1.cajones Spanish for drawers (as in, the kind in a dresser or desk). This word is often confused by non-Spanish speakers with cojones (note

Re: [Vo]:Re: Quark mass

2007-07-03 Thread Jones Beene
Ha! Well don't forget that there is also another connotation for 'drawers' (at least in the USA)... ... but let's just say it was an inadvertent euphemism... and/or tribute to the likes of Madeline Albright's little tirade against Castro some years ago ... Michel Jullian wrote: Jones

[Vo]:Steorn will demonstrate the Orbo in ~ a few days

2007-07-03 Thread Paul Lowrance
I'm a little surprised at the total lack of attentions Steorn is getting in the alternative and Free Energy communities. For some time Sean has stated the Orbo will be demonstrated to the public the first week of July in London. Most people who follow Steorn news are nearly 100% certain such

Re: [Vo]:Steorn will demonstrate the Orbo in ~ a few days

2007-07-03 Thread OrionWorks
From Paul Lowrance I'm a little surprised at the total lack of attentions Steorn is getting in the alternative and Free Energy communities. ... Indeed, the much anticipated STEORN presentation could be of historic proportions. The event could turn out to be one of the biggest milestones in

[Vo]:Cosmic matter and the Galaxy Rotation Problem

2007-07-03 Thread Horace Heffner
There have been many updates to the gravimagnetic theory paper: http://mtaonline.net/~hheffner/FullGravimag.pdf including a possible solution to the Galaxy Rotation Problem on page 24. Regards, Horace Heffner

Re: [Vo]:*****THE NEWMAN ENERGY MACHINE NOW USES ONLY SOLAR PANELS!!!

2007-07-03 Thread thomas malloy
Jed Rothwell wrote: Michel Jullian wrote: It is a proof-of-principle device. If it actually produces 120 W of anomalous excess power, it does not matter how big the thing is. Nothing anomalous about the 120W, it's his input power (from the solar panels). Yes, I should have noted that

Re: [Vo]:Re: Quark mass

2007-07-03 Thread thomas malloy
Jones Beene wrote: In particle physics, the quark is not longer considered to be a basic constituent of matter but is now considered to be a lepton which is located outside of 3-space. Interesting comment Jones. Robert Bigelow, lately in the news for launching his own space station, has

Re: [Vo]:Re: Quark mass

2007-07-03 Thread Terry Blanton
Hunt for the Skinwalker http://www.amazon.com/Hunt-Skinwalker-Science-Confronts-Unexplained/dp/1416505210/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-0980123-1165619?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1183494439sr=8-1 http://snipr.com/1ntou On 7/3/07, thomas malloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jones Beene wrote: In particle physics,

Re: [Vo]:Neutron Properties

2007-07-03 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Mon, 2 Jul 2007 17:34:49 -0700 (PDT): Hi, [snip] --- Robin van Spaandonk Perhaps one implication is that each that each quark comprises a pair of particles, each with a mass Pi^5 times that of the electron. Well... Don't keep us in suspense...or are we

Re: [Vo]:Steorn will demonstrate the Orbo in ~ a few days

2007-07-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wish people would refrain from doing these grand orchestrated introductions. Two reasons: 1. It might fail, and thereby backfire. 2. It seems like something P. T. Barnum would do, rather than science. A series of low-key, matter-of-fact demonstrations in the laboratory would be better.

Re: [VO]:Steorn SPDC caution!

2007-07-03 Thread Paul Lowrance
Horace Heffner wrote: On Jul 1, 2007, at 10:43 AM, Paul Lowrance wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: On Jun 29, 2007, at 1:06 PM, Paul Lowrance wrote: There's a lot of talk about the verbiage used in Steorns NDA. I'd bet this NDA would kill any chance of me patenting any future successful Free

Re: [Vo]:Steorn will demonstrate the Orbo in ~ a few days

2007-07-03 Thread Rhong Dhong
Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wish people would refrain from doing these grand orchestrated introductions. Two reasons: 1. It might fail, and thereby backfire. 2. It seems like something P. T. Barnum would do, rather than science. They are businessmen, trying to make money for

Re: [VO]:Steorn SPDC caution!

2007-07-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
Paul Lowrance wrote: It's my impression the court merely wants proof of Prior Art. Perhaps web forums, yahoo google websites, and wikis don't count as much proof. What if I handed out a few thousand xeroxed papers to various people? I do not know anything about patent laws, but if you were

Re: [Vo]:Steorn will demonstrate the Orbo in ~ a few days

2007-07-03 Thread Paul Lowrance
Jed Rothwell wrote: I wish people would refrain from doing these grand orchestrated introductions. Two reasons: 1. It might fail, and thereby backfire. 2. It seems like something P. T. Barnum would do, rather than science. A series of low-key, matter-of-fact demonstrations in the laboratory

Re: [Vo]:Steorn will demonstrate the Orbo in ~ a few days

2007-07-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
Rhong Dhong wrote: They are businessmen, trying to make money for their investors. They could publish the plans of the device tomorrow if they didn't mind seeing their investors lose millions in revenue from licences. That has no bearing on how they introduce the invention to the pubic. A

[Vo]:July 4, 2007 Declaration of Independence

2007-07-03 Thread R.C.Macaulay
BlankA 4th of July parade, bar-b-q and celebration is held each 4th at Round Top Texas, the smallest incorporated town ( population 71) in Texas. This is the longest continued 4th celebration and parade held west of the Mississippi River and started in 1856 by the local German and Czech

Re: [Vo]:Steorn will demonstrate the Orbo in ~ a few days

2007-07-03 Thread Mark Goldes
Jed, I think you may be correct. Edison may have had it right... We have been pondering the issue with regard to our own technology. (Anyone interested can see what we will say publicly at this time by reading what appears on our website: magneticpowerinc.com ) Mark Magnetic Power Inc. On

Re: [Vo]:Steorn will demonstrate the Orbo in ~ a few days

2007-07-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
Paul Lowrance wrote: I agree. Here's my method -- Goal: To freely spread the precise build instructions as quickly as possible: * Type a short document containing precise details how to build such a device, encouraging others to replicate such a device for personal use and/or for sale. *

Re: [VO]:Steorn SPDC caution!

2007-07-03 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jul 3, 2007, at 2:39 PM, Paul Lowrance wrote: It's my impression the court merely wants proof of Prior Art. Perhaps web forums, yahoo google websites, and wikis don't count as much proof. What if I handed out a few thousand xeroxed papers to various people? I think you should

Re: [Vo]:The H2O Dimer

2007-07-03 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Mon, 02 Jul 2007 09:40:41 -0700: Hi, [snip] Good points made by Michel and Horace, as I was heavily influenced in this thought (at the time I read the Paynter paper) by the Graneau work. Even now, I am not sure whether their assertion is wrong or right, but