Re: [Vo]:Energy conversion via Electron affinity

2007-09-10 Thread Horace Heffner
On Sep 9, 2007, at 1:24 PM, Jones Beene wrote: Horace Ah yes, it's that sometimes delusional pre-experiment glow I must be feeling! Problem is - I don't see this working more robustly than the old Clarendon dry pile without getting down to nano tolerances, and possibly to exotic

[Vo]:Re: Energy conversion via Electron affinity

2007-09-10 Thread Michel Jullian
Battery - Zinc-Copper El. S.E.P Elec.AFF. Zn -0.76 0 Cu +0.16 119 The Zn Cu cell voltage is 1.1V, corresponding to a Cu half reaction standard electrode potential of +0.34V (0.34-(-0.76)=1.1), not +0.16V cf http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galvanic_cell. You must have picked the wrong Cu

[Vo]:Re: Energy conversion via Electron affinity

2007-09-10 Thread Michel Jullian
(re-sending, 1st try didn't make it to the list it seems) - Original Message - From: Michel Jullian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 12:42 PM Subject: Re: Energy conversion via Electron affinity Battery - Zinc-Copper El. S.E.P Elec.AFF. Zn

Re: [Vo]:Energy conversion via Electron affinity

2007-09-10 Thread Jones Beene
Horace Heffner wrote: It is of interest that electrons in Zn-Ag battery flow from the Zn electrode to the Ag electrode. This is to be expected from the Wiki chart: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_affinity ... which can be confusing since other references have it stated in

Re: [Vo]:Energy conversion via Electron affinity

2007-09-10 Thread Horace Heffner
High conductivity dry piles could provide the DC bias to run an electrolysis cell. HF AC V1 o--- ---o V2 | | OOO === T1 OOO | | | i-- | | | --i

Re: [Vo]:Energy conversion via Electron affinity

2007-09-10 Thread Jones Beene
Wow. You must be reading my mind again! Jones Horace Heffner wrote: High conductivity dry piles could provide the DC bias to run an electrolysis cell. HF AC V1 o--- ---o V2 | | OOO === T1

[Vo]:ArXiv article on shock wave prevention

2007-09-10 Thread David Jonsson
I just submitted this Title: Shock minimized supersonic flight by heating Authors: David Jonsson Categories: physics.flu-dyn Comments: 4 pages, 2 figures, 2 references http://arxiv.org/abs/0709.1418 David

Re: [Vo]:Energy conversion via Electron affinity

2007-09-10 Thread Horace Heffner
I made a mistake earlier using standard electrode potentials to look at metal-meatl junction barriers. The numbers to use are work functions. Here are some selected candidate numbers: Some acceptor candidates: El. Wk.F.Elec.AFF. Pt 5.65 205 Au 5.1 223 Cu 4.65 119 Ag

Re: [Vo]:Energy conversion via Electron affinity

2007-09-10 Thread Horace Heffner
On Sep 9, 2007, at 1:24 PM, Jones Beene wrote: Horace Ah yes, it's that sometimes delusional pre-experiment glow I must be feeling! Problem is - I don't see this working more robustly than the old Clarendon dry pile without getting down to nano tolerances, and possibly to exotic

Re: [Vo]:ArXiv article on shock wave prevention

2007-09-10 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Looks like it's not available for public viewing (yet) on Arxiv. I was told: ArXiv.org considers submissions to be confidential between the submitter and/or authors of a paper and ourselves until a paper is announced. If you'd like to read 0709.1418 before then, please ask the authors to

Re: [Vo]:Energy conversion via Electron affinity

2007-09-10 Thread Jones Beene
Horace Heffner wrote: We apparently have very different views on this, and very differing mental models of how this might work. The ZPE mechanisms I have suggested occur between the transport molecule and the donor and acceptor surfaces. That's where the sub nanometer gap lies. I can agree

Re: [Vo]:Re: [OT] Bin Laden Trades

2007-09-10 Thread John Berry
Ok, so we have the many billion dollar trades. And a faked 'video' of Osama saying that he will nuke US cities, he just happens to say new stuff during a 12 minute video freeze, otherwise it could have been filmed before the Iraq war. Bush wants to attack Iran badly but simply doesn't have the

Re: [Vo]:Re: [OT] Bin Laden Trades

2007-09-10 Thread John Berry
To answer my own question: Hans Kristensen, an expert on US nuclear forces said that the air force keeps a computerized command and control system that traces any movement of a nuclear weapon so that they have a complete picture of where they are at any given time. He also added that perhaps

Re: [Vo]:Re: [OT] Bin Laden Trades

2007-09-10 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
John Berry wrote: Ok, so we have the many billion dollar trades. And a faked 'video' of Osama saying that he will nuke US cities, he just happens to say new stuff during a 12 minute video freeze, otherwise it could have been filmed before the Iraq war. Bush wants to attack Iran badly but

[Vo]:New ENERGY TIMES (tm) Sept. 10, 2007 -- Issue #24

2007-09-10 Thread Steven Krivit
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Re: [Vo]:Re: [OT] Bin Laden Trades

2007-09-10 Thread R.C.Macaulay
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[Vo]:Electron Affinity and the Dry Pile Draft #1

2007-09-10 Thread Horace Heffner
BACKGROUND Jones Beene theorized that electron affinity might be used to spontaneously transport electrons between electrodes of the right kind in a gas modality.1 take two electrodes and a working medium, and hydrogen is the only working medium that fits into this concept very well (73

Re: [Vo]:Energy conversion via Electron affinity

2007-09-10 Thread Horace Heffner
On Sep 10, 2007, at 12:06 PM, Jones Beene wrote: Obviously if ZPE can be demonstrated, it is totally outside of the mainstream. Yes indeed, or even a bona fide Type II machine. Just an efficient hydrogen generator would be nice. The more I think about this the more I'm convinced the

Re: [Vo]:*****SEE 7,500-lb ENERGY MACHINE

2007-09-10 Thread thomas malloy
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