thomas malloy wrote:
...
I thought that grounding was part of the definition of a Faraday Cage.
Not really. The important thing about a Faraday cage is that inside it
you cannot tell anything about electric fields or electric potentials
that exist outside. You can't tell (in theory at
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Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
... Note that Tesla lit light bulbs 25 miles away, with no wires,
using only the ground
On Oct 24, 2007, at 10:54 PM, John Winterflood wrote:
The important thing about a Faraday cage is that inside it you
cannot tell anything about electric fields or electric potentials
that exist outside. You can't tell (in theory at least) whether
the cage you are in is grounded, or
Horace Heffner wrote:
On Oct 24, 2007, at 10:54 PM, John Winterflood wrote:
The important thing about a Faraday cage is that inside it you cannot
tell anything about electric fields or electric potentials that exist
outside. You can't tell (in theory at least) whether the cage you
are in
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Horace Heffner wrote:
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Good point. Another option along the same lines might be to simply strip
a section of
On Oct 25, 2007, at 5:30 AM, Michel Jullian wrote:
I think it has been stated in a variety of ways by a variety of people
(Terry, Bill...) that the Faraday cage should be grounded, I can
hardly
believe this hasn't been tried yet...
There is a considerable difference between just
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On 25/10/2007 7:08 AM, Horace Heffner wrote:
On Oct 24, 2007, at 10:54 PM, John Winterflood wrote:
The important thing about a Faraday cage is that inside it you
cannot tell anything about electric fields or electric potentials
that exist outside. You can't tell (in theory at least)
On 25/10/2007 10:57 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
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Michel Jullian wrote:
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I think Jones touched on it in his BaFe treatise P I. Jones, did you do P 2?
Terry
On 10/24/07, OrionWorks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wondered how long it would take before someone mention Floyd Sweet's work.
Surprised that it took this long.
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
It gets more interesting by the day, does it not?
So lets see, If I place a picture of the readings on my TriField meter and
my Ham RF field strength meter what a large can of worms that will open up.
May I guess?
You have it positioned in a dead spot of the lab, doe a test over every
square
Terry Blanton wrote:
I think Jones touched on it in his BaFe treatise
AFAIK - the barium, while not ruled out, is looking less and less like
the source of the anomaly.
Ron,
You can't give up now.
This is part of the climb.
Harry
On 25/10/2007 11:55 AM, EnergyLab wrote:
It gets more interesting by the day, does it not?
So lets see, If I place a picture of the readings on my TriField meter and
my Ham RF field strength meter what a large can of worms that
Interesting 5th Force paper by Mills
http://www.blacklightpower.com/theory/theorypapers/F%5e2%20paper102307.pdf
He reports on his experimental confirmation of 15 predicted hyperbolic-
electron states (with an acceleration that is over twelve orders of
magnitude greater than gravity, as
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007, John Winterflood wrote:
thomas malloy wrote:
As Jed pointed out, a pair of heavy iron frying pans might make a superb
Faraday cage.
Yes, and they solve the problem of shielding low-freq magnetism. For
example, to well shield the magnetic component of 60Hz you'd need many
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Horace Heffner wrote:
Good point. Another option along the same lines might be to simply
strip a section of the ground wire and connect the ground wire to the
faraday cage at the entry point using an alligator clip. It the
lights go out
Harry Veeder wrote:
On 25/10/2007 10:57 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
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EnergyLab wrote:
In truth the reason I am no longer participation on the thread is it is in
my view pointless.
Yes indeed, Ron, you already made your views quite plain when you said,
three days ago,
None of you deserve to see anything.
'Nuf said, eh?
Here is a draft of the Instructions to Authors that I will be sending
to people who submit papers to the Sicily conference, 8th
International Workshop on Anomalies in Hydrogen / Deuterium Loaded
Metals. Aside from Ed Storms, I do not think any of the authors read
this forum, but perhaps the
William Beaty wrote:
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007, John Winterflood wrote:
thomas malloy wrote:
As Jed pointed out, a pair of heavy iron frying pans might make a superb
Faraday cage.
Yes, and they solve the problem of shielding low-freq magnetism. For
example, to well shield the magnetic component
Hi Ron,
To be honest I don't know what to make of your prototype. It seems
prudent from my point of view to remain as neutral as one can under
the circumstances. Nevertheless, I'm both fascinated and encouraged by
what I've seen so far. I'm sure there are many (myself included) who
wish to be
On Oct 25, 2007, at 9:45 AM, William Beaty wrote:
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Horace Heffner wrote:
Good point. Another option along the same lines might be to simply
strip a section of the ground wire and connect the ground wire to
the
faraday cage at the entry
William Beaty wrote:
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Horace Heffner wrote:
Good point. Another option along the same lines might be to simply
strip a section of the ground wire and connect the ground wire to the
faraday cage at the entry point using an alligator clip. It
On Oct 25, 2007, at 10:08 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
William Beaty wrote:
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007, John Winterflood wrote:
thomas malloy wrote:
As Jed pointed out, a pair of heavy iron frying pans might make a
superb
Faraday cage.
Yes, and they solve the problem of shielding low-freq
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007, Harry Veeder wrote:
You don't care about the earth ground, if you have already made up your mind
that a conventional explanation is good enough.
Now hold on right there.
All of us on vortex are SUPPOSED to assume that it's a conventional
effect. If we did not, then we'd
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
William Beaty wrote:
But Ron DID report that the lights go out if you ground the cage. And
then there apparently was a bunch of flaming going on about whether a
Faraday cage is still a shield if not grounded.
He did? I sure missed that!
Bill sez:
Now hold on right there.
All of us on vortex are SUPPOSED to assume that it's a conventional
effect. If we did not, then we'd become true crackpots: the kind who are
so in love with Weird Discoveries that we stop questioning our own
assumptions, stop critiquing our own work, and
On Oct 25, 2007, at 9:45 AM, William Beaty wrote:
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Horace Heffner wrote:
Good point. Another option along the same lines might be to simply
strip a section of the ground wire and connect the ground wire to
the
faraday cage at the entry
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Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 10:44 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Cold electricity
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007, John Winterflood wrote:
thomas malloy wrote:
As Jed pointed out, a pair of heavy iron frying
Call me a crackpot but I think you are all missing the point.
Ron's loop sticks (in which only some work) are when used properly able to
send out an EM field that does not decrease in strength with distance until
at a critical distance it collapses.
In other words the scanning coil proclaims
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007, OrionWorks wrote:
Well said.
It's one of the most difficult lessons to learn in a life time. The
lure of fame and fortune are both seductive and addictive. Without a
properly grounded sense of neutrality the seductive lure of fame and
fortune will inevitably skew one's
Bill sez:
The other side of fooling ourselves is the Scoffers' delusion, where all
phenomena are well known, and Weird Discoveries are impossible by
definition. After seeing many examples of this, I suspect that it's not
driven by ego, but by fear. Fear of the unknown, and worship of the
Not yet. Space Elevator news:
http://www.news.com/Space-elevator-isnt-going-anywhere-yet/2100-11397_3-6214726.html?part=rsstag=2547-1_3-0-20subj=news
http://snipurl.com/1sq1v
Terry
He doesn't appear in public oft:
http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=5143575
Terry
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
William Beaty wrote:
Yes, and they solve the problem of shielding low-freq magnetism. For
example, to well shield the magnetic component of 60Hz you'd need many
inches thick of copper.
I've heard this statement, or others very much like
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