[Vo]:Re: Driving the Wind

2008-04-10 Thread Michel Jullian
Full res version here, found via the wikipedia land sailing article: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/Simon_Stevins_zeilwagen_voor_Prins_Maurits_1649.jpg (click image with zoom tool for full details, if you don't you get a nice illustration of the aliasing phenomenon :-)

[Vo]:Energy Conversation announcement

2008-04-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
We are very pleased to announce the launch of our beta site for the Energy Conversation http://www.energyconversation.org/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=31qid=355www.energyconversation.org. We appreciate you sticking with us through the many stages. Your recommendations have

Re: [Vo]:Jed's misunderstanding of BLP

2008-04-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Harry Veeder wrote: I think the situation with BLP is very different from that of the Wright Brothers. As far as I know, BLP is the only group actively researching hydrinos, whereas the Wrights were not alone in their quest to develop controlled powered flight. There is no doubt that BLP is

Re: [Vo]:Energy Conversation announcement

2008-04-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
I don't know anything about this Energy Conversation other than what is in the announcement and web site. It does not seem like a very professional organization, since they misspelled Alexandria. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Jed's misunderstanding of BLP

2008-04-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mike Carrell wrote: . . . I have made it clear that I have no interest in their scientific claims (or any scientific claims), but I fully recognize the technological implications. Jed, it did not seem so from the tenor of your comments. Well, you can ignore the tenor of the comments and

Re: [Vo]:Fracture drilling and the N word

2008-04-10 Thread Jones Beene
One key detail which is the basis for Halliburton's technology (and much of their wealth)- although it is not widely appreciated outside the industry, is that in the last decade, in addition to traditional oil exploration, they have looked specifically for deep *coal*. Look instead of drill is

Re: [Vo]:Jed's misunderstanding of BLP

2008-04-10 Thread Mike Carrell
- Original Message - From: Jed Rothwell Good reply from Jed. As far as the gibberish factor re Mills, the same can be said of all the attempts to find a theory for LENR to stand on. Both are outside of the realm of conventional physics. Therefore one must pay attention to the

Re: [Vo]:Jed's misunderstanding of BLP

2008-04-10 Thread OrionWorks
Jed Rothwell wrote: Mike Carrell wrote: ... The new reactor has sufficient energy outout to be self sustaining with water as an external fuel. I gather this means: The new reactor produces enough heat with enough Carnot efficiency to run a conventional small steam turbine

Re: [Vo]:Jed's misunderstanding of BLP

2008-04-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
OrionWorks wrote: I assume you mean a steam generator rather than, say, a thermoelectric generator, which is less efficient. Didn't someone donate a Stirling engine to the BLP cause awhile ago? I wonder if that setup could be used to increase efficiency. Stirling engines are inefficient.

Re: [Vo]:Jed's misunderstanding of BLP

2008-04-10 Thread Mike Carrell
- Original Message - From: OrionWorks [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip Didn't someone donate a Stirling engine to the BLP cause awhile ago? I wonder if that setup could be used to increase efficiency. A Stirning engine pix shows up in slideshows. I don't know who owns it. Efficiency in a

Re: [Vo]:Jed's misunderstanding of BLP

2008-04-10 Thread Mike Carrell
- Original Message - From: Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Carrell wrote: As far as the gibberish factor re Mills, the same can be said of all the attempts to find a theory for LENR to stand on. That is true. If LENR were based on the theories that have devised up until

Re: [Vo]:Jed's misunderstanding of BLP

2008-04-10 Thread OrionWorks
From Jed: Didn't someone donate a Stirling engine to the BLP cause awhile ago? I wonder if that setup could be used to increase efficiency. Stirling engines are inefficient. All small engines are, but as far as I know, conventional steam turbines are the best. I don't know what the

Re: [Vo]:Jed's misunderstanding of BLP

2008-04-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
OrionWorks wrote: The Chinese make many small water turbine generators that produce a few hundred watts I think. . . Fired by communist coal I would imagine. No, they are water turbines: small scale hydroelectricity. Very small; a stream falling 10 or 20 meters is enough as I recall. A

Re: [Vo]:Jed's misunderstanding of BLP

2008-04-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: Very small; a stream falling 10 or 20 meters is enough as I recall. A garden hose is enough. This is easy to arrange in hilly country. Not a garden hose. 1 PVC piping. You see it all over the place in Japanese farms, for gravity fed irrigation from cisterns. They also use it for

[Vo]:Recent Papers Update

2008-04-10 Thread Steven Krivit
Recent Papers Update http://newenergytimes.com/Reports/SelectedPapers.htm Meeting Report Srinivasan, M., Energy concepts for the 21st century, Current Science, Vol. 94, No. 7, p. 842-843 (April 10, 2008) Review Paper Krivit, S.B. Low Energy Nuclear Reaction Research – Global Scenario,

Re: [Vo]:Recent Papers Update

2008-04-10 Thread R C Macaulay
Thanks Steven, I appreciate the method used to format the updates. It makes it easy to transmit to persons of interest. Richard Recent Papers Update http://newenergytimes.com/Reports/SelectedPapers.htm Meeting Report Srinivasan, M., Energy concepts for the 21st century, Current

Re: [Vo]:Energy Conversation announcement

2008-04-10 Thread R C Macaulay
Howdy Jed, Todd Hathaway is listed which may mean an affiliation with the Maryland group that has organized to delve into funding energy research as discussed in past posts on vortex. Richard - Original Message - From: Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent:

Re: [Vo]:Fracture drilling and the N word

2008-04-10 Thread R C Macaulay
Howdy Jones, My ! ,What big eyes you got grandma.. as little red said to the big badwolf. Last week a 3.5 earthquake occurred, located 1,5 miles deep near Falls City Texas, just south of San Antonio. The news reported it likely resulted from oil and gas production in the area... hmmm. The

Re: [Vo]:Fracture drilling and the N word

2008-04-10 Thread Jones Beene
--- R C Macaulay wrote: Halliburton ... wound up in Dubai as a strange hybrid oil and gas/ defense contractor/ black ops/ go between with an uncanny ability to morph. Speaking of morphing - or maybe it is more like shedding some ugly stinkin' fat, they just unloaded (at least they did it for

[Vo]:Burning our food for fuel

2008-04-10 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Quite some time back someone on this list -- Jed, maybe, or maybe it was actually several people -- opined that alternative biofuels which require arable land to grow could plausibly be viewed as, at least, fundamentally stupid, or at worst as a crime against humanity. Recently I've noticed

Re: [Vo]:Fracture drilling and the N word

2008-04-10 Thread R C Macaulay
Howdy Jones, KBR ( Kellogg/Brown and Root) was once two respected engineering constructors. MW Kellogg started along with Bechtel, Kaiser and boys building the Hoover dam . Brown Root started in Texas as a road builder and grew and grew.. closely connected to Texas politics ( LBJ) That's how

Re: [Vo]:Burning our food for fuel

2008-04-10 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Stephen A. Lawrence's message of Thu, 10 Apr 2008 23:14:13 -0400: Hi, [snip] Quite some time back someone on this list -- Jed, maybe, or maybe it was actually several people -- opined that alternative biofuels which require arable land to grow could plausibly be viewed as, at least,

Re: [Vo]:Burning our food for fuel

2008-04-10 Thread Harry Veeder
Burning stuff for power is so archaic. harry On 10/4/2008 10:14 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Quite some time back someone on this list -- Jed, maybe, or maybe it was actually several people -- opined that alternative biofuels which require arable land to grow could plausibly be viewed as,