[Vo]:Kiplinger: Future Electricity Bills in the USA (not good)

2008-04-12 Thread OrionWorks
This does not bode well. The Kiplinger Letter, April 11, 2008, had the following to say about future electricity bills: Electricity rate increases will accelerate in another year or two. Among the drivers: Financing woes squelching plant

[Vo]:Kiplinger: Future Electricity Bills in the USA (not good)

2008-04-12 Thread fznidarsic
Escalating costs...both for materials and for skilled technicians... SNIP That looks good to me.? Thats what I do ... start up new power plants, scribbers, etc. Mo money.. yea! To bad the money for oil is not recirculating around the US also. Frank Z

Re: [Vo]:Kiplinger: Future Electricity Bills in the USA (not good)

2008-04-12 Thread OrionWorks
From Frank Z: Regarding Kiplinger's comment: Escalating costs...both for materials and for skilled technicians... That looks good to me. Thats what I do ... start up new power plants, scribbers, etc. Mo money.. yea! ... What about Kiplinger's latter comment: ...combined with a more

[Vo]:Re: Algae: 'The ultimate in renewable energy'

2008-04-12 Thread Michel Jullian
Best option would be to get the CO2 from the atmosphere as we are all aware, let's see the implications: = extensive growing surfaces with ample water, nutrients and sunlight = the oceans provide all that, as discussed before = it occurs to me we could use the natural ocean streams as conveyor

Re: [Vo]:Re: Algae: 'The ultimate in renewable energy'

2008-04-12 Thread Jones Beene
Nice posting Michel, I can envision a fleet of large ocean going catamaran vessels, hulls perhaps 200 meters in length, and designed so that between the hulls is fitted on a roller mecahism a continuous recirculating open-weave netting to harvest the sargasso. The catamaran could even be

[Vo]:Re: Algae: 'The ultimate in renewable energy'

2008-04-12 Thread Michel Jullian
It sounds quite shipshape ;-) The harvesting/processing vessels could be powered by their own algoil in low wind conditions, quite frequent in the Sargasso Sea. The bulk of the fertilizers, iron included, would be made on the spot too, in the form of the press cake, right? Michel -

Re: [Vo]: Algae: 'The ultimate in renewable energy'

2008-04-12 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:08:33 -0700 (PDT): Hi, [snip] --- Nick Palmer wrote: getting the CO2 from existing coal/oil/gas fired plants would be FAR better... I agree 100%. The situation is not either/or. CO2 should definitely be removed from the exhaust of

Re: [Vo]: Algae: 'The ultimate in renewable energy'

2008-04-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robin van Spaandonk wrote: If I'm not mistaken (and I could well be), then the US actually consumes more fossil fuel to generate electricity than it does for transportation . . . Roughly the same for both: 26.6 quads of oil for transportation, and for electric power 20.5 quads of coal and

Re: [Vo]: Algae: 'The ultimate in renewable energy'

2008-04-12 Thread Jones Beene
--- Robin If I'm not mistaken (and I could well be), then the US actually consumes more fossil fuel to generate electricity than it does for transportation, Yes but much of that consumption for electricity is provided by nuclear, hydro, wind, solar or in sites which cannot easily adapt to

Re: [Vo]: Algae: 'The ultimate in renewable energy'

2008-04-12 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:05:25 -0700 (PDT): Hi, [snip] --- Robin If I'm not mistaken (and I could well be), then the US actually consumes more fossil fuel to generate electricity than it does for transportation, Yes but much of that consumption for

Re: [Vo]: Algae: 'The ultimate in renewable energy'

2008-04-12 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is true that a breakthrough in batteries (what happened to EEStor ??) would bring the situation into better balance by shifting more demand to the grid. Not a lot of real news on their wiki article:

[Vo]:Cavitation Weapon

2008-04-12 Thread Terry Blanton
Hunting with a cavitation pistol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oCRJSGVIrs This shrimp has great aim. Terry

Re: [Vo]:Kiplinger: Future Electricity Bills in the USA (not good)

2008-04-12 Thread thomas malloy
OrionWorks wrote: This does not bode well. The Kiplinger Letter, April 11, 2008, had the following to say about future electricity bills: Electricity rate increases will accelerate in another year or two But it's good news for anyone with an

Re: [Vo]:Diode array 080410

2008-04-12 Thread thomas malloy
Charles M. Brown wrote: Vorts, The diode array is still available for development. It is said that the Second Law of Thermodynamics forbids devices that absorb heat while releasing electrical power Yah, all you've got to do is get it to work! This is makes the case for why I find the