Re: [Vo]:Sargassum for ethanol experimented in Taiwan

2008-04-15 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to R C Macaulay's message of Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:22:41 -0500: Hi, [snip] Howdy Jones, The nation is absolutely overloaded with technology but getting the bits and pieces fitted together takes teamwork which is an absentee to the equation. The wine, vinegar and beer brewers alone have

[Vo]:Re: Eye of the Gyre

2008-04-15 Thread Michel Jullian
Thanks Robin, good point. If this was a problem, hopefully other Gyres won't have such restrictions. Michel - Original Message - From: Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 5:14 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Eye of the Gyre In reply to

[Vo]:Re: CNN video of Vertigro algae factory

2008-04-15 Thread Michel Jullian
Thanks for bringing this point up, I don't remember atmospheric N-fixing by algae being discussed before. It seems you guessed correctly, at least for the blue-green species known as cyanobacteria: Some species of blue-green algae do not need much of the nutrient nitrogen present in the water

[Vo]:Re: Sargassum for ethanol experimented in Taiwan

2008-04-15 Thread Michel Jullian
Good points Jones, indeed butanol seems preferable. Michel - Original Message - From: Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 5:40 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Sargassum for ethanol experimented in Taiwan --- Michel Jullian wrote: Summary:

Re: [Vo]:Riots, instability spread as food prices skyrocket

2008-04-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
[Note: this message has the wrong Reply To] Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: This is sophistry at its finest: The contrived food vs. fuel debate has reared its ugly head once It sure is. Meat production is hideously inefficient (post-processing soy beans by feeding them to cows, instead of

[Vo]:Babbage's Difference Engine Lives!

2008-04-15 Thread OrionWorks
This might seem a tad anachronistic to some, but fascinating nevertheless: Building a 5-ton mechanical calculator... from 19th-century plans.

[Vo]:Sargassum (or garbage) to gasoline in one step

2008-04-15 Thread Jones Beene
Mark Goldes sent me the following information which has direct relevance to any scheme to harvest the bounty of Earth's oceans for transportation fuel. As many of you know, Mark has been involved in advanced alternative energy thinking for many years prior to Ultraconductors and MPI. Nearly

Re: [Vo]:Re: OT: Numbers and cucumbers

2008-04-15 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Robin van Spaandonk wrote: In reply to Jones Beene's message of Thu, 3 Apr 2008 07:05:44 -0700 (PDT): Hi, Whenever the people start to make actual headway, the currency is devalued to the point that they are put back in their place. ;^) Most of the support being provided by the Fed. is

Re: [Vo]:CNN video of Vertigro algae factory

2008-04-15 Thread Taylor J. Smith
Jones Beene wrote: [Regarding the CNN video of Vertigro algae factory] ``... Actually, it never hurts to see many different perspectives of a very important topic (potentially) from a variety of news sources. I would suggest adding these comments (features) to optimize such a system, at least

Re: [Vo]:CNN video of Vertigro algae factory

2008-04-15 Thread Jones Beene
Jack, Without challenging the major premise (Graneau's hydrogen bond-breaking hypothesis) of the article which you referenced, it contains one serious logical error which needs to be mentioned. http://www.infinite-energy.com/iemagazine/issue77/manhattan.html Here is the error: On examination

[Vo]:does anyone else see irony in this?

2008-04-15 Thread Steven Krivit
SAN FRANCISCO Tesla Motors, the Silicon Valley maker of electric sports cars, filed suit in San Mateo Superior Court on Monday against a competing company and two of its employees, saying they stole some of Tesla's design ideas and trade secrets.

Re: [Vo]:does anyone else see irony in this?

2008-04-15 Thread leaking pen
its like rain on your wedding day. which is to say, very cyclical history, very sad, rather amusing in a dark way, but not irony. On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Steven Krivit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SAN FRANCISCO Tesla Motors, the Silicon Valley maker of electric sports cars, filed suit

Re: [Vo]:CNN video of Vertigro algae factory

2008-04-15 Thread R C Macaulay
Howdy Jones, The ole Pelton bucket did have a few surprises to offer using the jet features Richard http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelton_wheel

[Vo]:Old News Videos

2008-04-15 Thread Steven Krivit
Does anybody have video footage of any 1989 TV news stories on CF? (I already have the McNeil-Lehrer hour, and also the press conference.) tia s

Re: [Vo]:does anyone else see irony in this?

2008-04-15 Thread Harry Veeder
I see dead people. harry On 15/4/2008 2:42 PM, Steven Krivit wrote: SAN FRANCISCO Tesla Motors, the Silicon Valley maker of electric sports cars, filed suit in San Mateo Superior Court on Monday against a competing company and two of its employees, saying they stole some of Tesla's design ideas

[Vo]:Ultracapacitors back in the news again - Zenn Motors article

2008-04-15 Thread OrionWorks
Article Title: Ultracapacitors: the future of electric cars or the 'cold fusion' of autovation? ZENN Motors says its electric car will cruise for 250 miles on a single five-minute charge. Skeptics cry shenanigans. see: http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0416/p13s01-sten.html Regards Steven Vincent

Re: [Vo]:does anyone else see irony in this?

2008-04-15 Thread Terry Blanton
Not irony; but, information. I had no idea that White Star was intended to be a PHEV. I always thought it would be a BEV like the Roadster. Now it all makes sense. Why would Ford agree to make the Fusion a roadster coaster? It's not! It still eats dinosaurs. That is, unless you keep the

Re: [Vo]:Ultracapacitors back in the news again - Zenn Motors article

2008-04-15 Thread Horace Heffner
On Apr 15, 2008, at 1:18 PM, OrionWorks wrote: Article Title: Ultracapacitors: the future of electric cars or the 'cold fusion' of autovation? ZENN Motors says its electric car will cruise for 250 miles on a single five-minute charge. Skeptics cry shenanigans. see:

Re: [Vo]:Ultracapacitors back in the news again - Zenn Motors article

2008-04-15 Thread Terry Blanton
In the words of the SecDef in Independence Day: Mr. President, that's not entirely accurate. Five hours on household supplies. And don't expect to use much else in the house; so, charge! (while you sleep). Terry On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 4:18 PM, OrionWorks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Article

[Vo]:Re: Ultracapacitors back in the news again - Zenn Motors article

2008-04-15 Thread Michel Jullian
Excellent :)) - Original Message - From: Horace Heffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 11:56 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Ultracapacitors back in the news again - Zenn Motors article On Apr 15, 2008, at 1:18 PM, OrionWorks wrote: Article Title:

Re: [Vo]:does anyone else see irony in this?

2008-04-15 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Terry Blanton wrote: Not irony; but, information. I had no idea that White Star was intended to be a PHEV. I always thought it would be a BEV like the Roadster. The thing I find confusing about it is how anyone can claim that using a gasoline-powered motor/generator and electric drive