Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout

2008-10-01 Thread R C Macaulay
Howdy Vorts, The use of the word bailout is not descriptive of the intent of the package of legislature that failed to win support in congress. An analogy to the plan offered by Paulson is more like who get's a seat in the lifeboat. Paulson suggests a 700 billion size lifeboat will handle all

Re: [Vo]:Black Holes from Newtonian Gravity?

2008-10-01 Thread OrionWorks
I'm sure this ground has probably been covered before on vortex, but how does the effect of gravity transcend the speed of light? At least, I've been given the impression by certain prevalent theories that gravity obeys the same law of C, meaning the effects of gravity, or gravity waves, radiate

[Vo]:Letter in Danish newspaper about cold fusion

2008-10-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
I don't know why, but this is in English. Interesting perspective: http://www.information.dk/166947 - Jed

[Vo]:Failure to replicate means failure to replicate

2008-10-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
Here is an exchange of messages between Marissa Little, Steve Krivit, and me. - Jed - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From: Marissa Little To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 5:10 PM Subject: CMNS: EarthTech's Dash-Zhang experiment Thanks to John's recent reminder, we've

Re: [Vo]:Black Holes from Newtonian Gravity?

2008-10-01 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
OrionWorks wrote: I'm sure this ground has probably been covered before on vortex, but how does the effect of gravity transcend the speed of light? At least, I've been given the impression by certain prevalent theories that gravity obeys the same law of C, meaning the effects of gravity, or

Re: [Vo]:Black Holes from Newtonian Gravity?

2008-10-01 Thread Jones Beene
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: First of all, in classical GR gravity is not a real force, it's just a distortion of the spacetime geometry. So, it doesn't necessarily need to escape or travel the same way other things might. (Quantum gravity theory is something else again and I know nothing

Re: [Vo]:Failure to replicate means failure to replicate

2008-10-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
[Here is a follow-up message I sent to Steve, Scott and Mike Melich.] To be fair, I should point out that as far as I know no one has replicated the latest claims by Dash Zhang, and their method is significantly different from other cold fusion claims. So I think it is possible that they are

[Vo]:FW: TRIGGER SHRIMP holds the key to our BIG BANG birth out of DARKENERGY-DARKFLOW SuperCosmos PARENT Aexoverse! NOT so MYSTERIOUS 'DARK FLOW' via HADRON(Suisse) developments. . .

2008-10-01 Thread Harbach Jak
TRIGGER SHRIMP holds the key to our BIG BANG birth out of DARKENERGY-DARKFLOW SuperCosmos PARENT Aexoverse! Mooj, This sounds like our ideas merged: DARK FLOW! ! ! ! CAVITATION EVENT ! ! ! aka LOW-DENSITY CENTRE within the 'eye' of a SUPERSPACE/DARK ENERGY TOROID-MAELSTOM= LOW DENSITY

Re: [Vo]:Failure to replicate means failure to replicate

2008-10-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: To be fair, I should point out that as far as I know no one has replicated the latest claims by Dash Zhang, and their method is significantly different from other cold fusion claims. Cancel that. I was thinking of Dash's earlier work with titanium sheets. I don't recall other

Re: [Vo]:Failure to replicate means failure to replicate

2008-10-01 Thread Steven Krivit
http://earthtech.org/experiments/DZ/DZ2.htm I need to read what the Littles did, before gabbing about this. Here I have done what I always criticize the skeptics for doing: commenting without doing my homework first! - Jed

[Vo]:The evolution of good governance

2008-10-01 Thread Jones Beene
Quick - vorticians - name the country that is the world's second largest exporter of food and agricultural products, after the United States. Hint- that country is not large and warm, like Australia or Brazil, and in fact is *tiny* - having only twice the acreage of the state of Massachusetts.

[Vo]:energy from air

2008-10-01 Thread thomas malloy
Vortexians; Dr. Evert sent me this URL www.airturbineengine.com . I had a talk with Dr. Beverly, whose number appears at the bottom of the page. I politely made the case that the energy has to be coming from somewhere, he doesn't want to hear that. He went on about how they've built a working

[Vo]:Sounds like the clathrates are letting go

2008-10-01 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Quick summary: Two expeditions to the Arctic have, in the last few days, seen methane gas bubbling up through the ocean. It is apparently leaking out from below the permafrost layer on the bottom. As of this moment it is anyone's guess how long this has been going on for, but it could be a new

Re: [Vo]:Black Holes from Newtonian Gravity?

2008-10-01 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Stephen A. Lawrence's message of Wed, 01 Oct 2008 10:41:21 -0400: Hi, [snip] Second, and more to the point, a static gravitational field, whether Newtonian or classical GR, doesn't propagate, it just is. This is *IDENTICAL* to the case of the (static) electrical field of an electron

Re: [Vo]:The evolution of good governance

2008-10-01 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Wed, 1 Oct 2008 19:08:37 -0700 (PDT): Hi, [snip] Quick - vorticians - name the country that is the world's second largest exporter of food and agricultural products, after the United States. The Netherlands is primarily a trading nation and has been for