RE: [Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan

2008-11-03 Thread Mark Iverson
Ed, No biggee. And I didn't mean to insult your patriotism; what did I say that was untrue of religions and also made you feel that way? For the most part, I agree that sincere and informed people should be able to discuss politics w/o questioning a person's patriotism... However, there are

[Vo]:What's new, what's not, what's bad, what's good

2008-11-03 Thread Remi Cornwall
Vo, Vo, I got directly contacted by someone called Michael Julian who seems similar to a Michel Julian but they can't be the same person. Obviously the names are similar. He told me to look at the logs and wondered what happened? So I did. Look, mate, it's the same old vortex: some old, some new,

Re: [Vo]:Michael Julian [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-11-03 Thread Jones Beene
- Original Message From: Steven Krivit I confirm (as someone has already stated) that the person posting as: Michael Julian [EMAIL PROTECTED] is notMichel Jullian [EMAIL PROTECTED] [snip] Invitation to Mr. Michael Julian: It is alleged that you are masquerading as another

Re: RE: [Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan

2008-11-03 Thread OrionWorks
From: Jeff Fink If good Muslims kill all non-muslims why have Jews been living in their cities for over a millennium? Because most Muslims are not living their religion by the book! Only what we refer to as the extremists behave that way. Most Muslims show much more kindness than that.

Re: [Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan

2008-11-03 Thread Edmund Storms
On Nov 3, 2008, at 1:13 AM, Mark Iverson wrote: Ed, No biggee. And I didn't mean to insult your patriotism; what did I say that was untrue of religions and also made you feel that way? You seem to blame a religion for the actions of a few of its members. All religions have members who

[Vo]:BEI brain electrode interface

2008-11-03 Thread thomas malloy
60 minutes just did a segment on a brain to electrode interface, BEI. The late John Scheurner, whom I met on Vortex, worked on the first prototypes of the BEI. A scientist, paralyzed by ALS, was shown communicating by typing out messages. The first model was a cap with electrodes, the

[Vo]:Sammy Davies and racists

2008-11-03 Thread Remi Cornwall
I heard about this on the radio and may listen to it later. There were a few sound bites on the ad. http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/documentaries/bruceandsammy.shtml I'm not prepared to believe Frank or Dean were racists because they said old smoky or get to the back of the bus in jest. It was

RE: [Vo]:BEI brain electrode interface

2008-11-03 Thread Remi Cornwall
John dead I'm so sad. When did this happen? It's been so much time since the early days of vo. What happened to Fred Sparber? -Original Message- From: thomas malloy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 November 2008 11:12 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:BEI brain electrode interface

[Vo]:The Jovian Hy

2008-11-03 Thread Jones Beene
What is the Jovian Hy ? No, its not the favored form of substance-abuse among young cosmologists these days. But it could be the basis of some form of extraterrestrial life, simple or even complex, such as on the moons of the three gas giants. Sometimes these are referred to generically as

Re: [Vo]:Now is the time for decisive action

2008-11-03 Thread Michel Jullian
Plus it makes the visual disturbance objection, very vocal over here, moot. Michel 2008/11/2 Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ... Offshore is inherently better in many ways, mainly because the wind is steadier and more frequent offshore. In the best land locations annual average performance

Re: [Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan

2008-11-03 Thread thomas malloy
OrionWorks wrote: From: Jeff Fink If good Muslims kill all non-muslims why have Jews been living in their cities for over a millennium? Because most Muslims are not living their religion by the book! Only what we refer to as the extremists behave that way. Most Muslims show much more

RE: [Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan

2008-11-03 Thread Remi Cornwall
Scan reading the posts and some random thoughts, I find talk about black tribal leaders selling other blacks into slavery a non-sequitur. That was wrong but the Europeans took part and made it a massive industry of pure misery. OR The US espouses the free market and yet gives a welfare cheque

Re: [Vo]:R C Macaulay, Mark Iverson

2008-11-03 Thread thomas malloy
Michael Julian wrote: These guys are racist muthafukkas. People like them cause all the world's problems, when's their generation going to die out? Good ole boy dumbshit kick them off the list! I'm sick of hardworking Americans All the good people are leaving this list. R C Macaulay Sun, 02

RE: [Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan

2008-11-03 Thread Remi Cornwall
I LIKE COLIN POWELL. HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT. BUSH MESSED HIM OVER BEING THE FALL GUY FOR WEAPONS OF MASS DISTRACTION. You can tell a leader when they speak, they are articulate, mature and magnanimous. For all the bad things done in its name, the US army IS a band of brothers

Re: [Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan

2008-11-03 Thread OrionWorks
Hi Thomas, I may get a chance to look at the youtube.com video you recommend tonight. Incidentally, I have no idea what Mr. Dean's position is on what I presume is the ET matter, whatever that is. Shoot! I don't know what my OWN position is on the matter. Regarding: If good Muslims kill all

[Vo]:Fred Sparber

2008-11-03 Thread Horace Heffner
On Nov 3, 2008, at 7:47 AM, Remi Cornwall wrote: What happened to Fred Sparber? I am sad to report that last I heard Fred Sparber was at home in bed being cared for by a hospice nurse. Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/

[Vo]:Fred Sparber

2008-11-03 Thread Remi Cornwall
I'm sure all of Vortex wishes Fred well. I imagine Jones will keep up the fanciful stuff in the same vein as Fred did. There's no harm in that ;)

Re: [Vo]:Fred Sparber

2008-11-03 Thread OrionWorks
Good words from Remi, I'm sure all of Vortex wishes Fred well. I imagine Jones will keep up the fanciful stuff in the same vein as Fred did. There's no harm in that ;) In due course I hope Mr. Sparber will have a pleasant trip to the other side of the bank. If I could I'd spot Fred five

[Vo]:All the talents

2008-11-03 Thread Remi Cornwall
Whoever gets elected, if they made a pragmatic centralist regime with a cabinet of all the talents they would pour oil on troubled waters (err, not good, too Exxon like). The mark of a leader then would stamp his approval or his own decision by being the equal or greater than the intellects of

Re: RE: RE: [Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan

2008-11-03 Thread Mike Carrell
One can quote religious texts for any agenda. There are passagees in the New Testament attributed to Jesus which are divisive as well. The question is who wrote them, and why? With militant Islam, you see it filtered through a honor-based desert culture. The largest Islamic culture is in

Re: RE: RE: [Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan

2008-11-03 Thread OrionWorks
Jeff Fink Said: ... You may wonder how good of a Christian I am? Well, I am not as good as I need to be, but I am trying. I often wonder how good a human being I am to myself and to others as well. I know I could use improvement, and I am trying. Bible prophesy, which has a habit of coming

RE: RE: RE: [Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan

2008-11-03 Thread Remi Cornwall
Oh I see is that's what their up to now... Oh they're going to say Obama is the anti-Christ. I remember this with Bill Clinton and Gorbachev and anyone smart enough to stand up to them. I've heard all kinds of bullshit, that the Annunarki are due in 2012 (some planet they live on is meant to

Re: [Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan

2008-11-03 Thread Edmund Storms
Just to throw another stick on the fire, have any of the very religious contributors to this discussion considered that a real reality exists outside of what we call the physical reality and their religion is simply an imperfect way to describe this reality? The explanation based on

RE: RE: RE: [Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan

2008-11-03 Thread Jeff Fink
-Original Message- From: Mike Carrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 5:36 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: RE: RE: [Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan With militant Islam, you see it filtered through a honor-based desert culture. The

Re: RE: RE: RE: [Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan

2008-11-03 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message - From: Jeff Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, November 3, 2008 4:36 pm Subject: RE: RE: RE: [Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan You are perhaps mixing the Old Testament with the New. The Old Testament is primarily about the history of the Jewish

[Vo]:The Golden Rule

2008-11-03 Thread Mike Carrell
Humans inherit in their biology a necessary system to defend self from other; it is our immune system, defending against disease. Language labels things and people and blends you with those people. People come to react to words and labels as if they were individuals and things. Thus politicians

Re: [Vo]:The Golden Rule

2008-11-03 Thread Jones Beene
http://www.religioustolerance.org/reciproc.htm - Original Message From: Mike Carrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Humans inherit in their biology a necessary system to defend self from other; it is our immune system, defending against disease. Language labels things and people and blends

Re: [Vo]:Now is the time for decisive action

2008-11-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a lot more in the ocean currents! Darn right. The Gulf Stream is a neglected resource. It comes close to the shore in several places, which I assume are shallow enough for the kind of installations they use in oil drilling wells, if not offshore

Re: RE: RE: [Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan

2008-11-03 Thread Mike Carrell
- Original Message - From: Jeff Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 6:25 PM Subject: RE: RE: RE: [Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan snip Indonesia is becoming a very dangerous place for Christians. I have missionary

RE: [Vo]:BEI brain electrode interface

2008-11-03 Thread Mark Iverson
Thomas: Do you mean John Schnurer, of Xenia/Yellow Springs Ohio, whose father taught at Antioch college? -Mark -Original Message- From: thomas malloy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 3:12 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:BEI brain electrode interface

Re: [Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan

2008-11-03 Thread OrionWorks
Hello again, Thomas, BTW Steve, I happened upon this Utube video. I assume that you will agree with most of what Mr. Dean has to say. The bottom line is that: there's no evidence that they (Space Brothers), are from anywhere other than this solar system, that there is more than one species,

Re: [Vo]:IOUs and ITUs

2008-11-03 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message - From: Stephen A. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:38 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:IOUs and ITUs Harry Veeder wrote: Very few people seem to be aware of the fact that the US constitution permits the government to literally

Re: [Vo]:BEI brain electrode interface

2008-11-03 Thread thomas malloy
Mark Iverson wrote: Thomas: Do you mean John Schnurer, of Xenia/Yellow Springs Ohio, whose father taught at Antioch college? Yes --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---

RE: [Vo]:BEI brain electrode interface

2008-11-03 Thread Mark Iverson
So sorry to hear that... Damn. I knew John well, visited him several times, had many long phone conversations, and helped each other in tough times. Perhaps he'll send me a little hint from the other side... Nothing but fond memories, Take care John, -Mark -Original Message-

Re: [Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan

2008-11-03 Thread thomas malloy
OrionWorks wrote: Hello again, Thomas, Oh, THAT Bob Dean. Yes, I've heard of him. Many times. (Must have been a senior moment.) Bob Dean obviously has an interesting story to tell. I do not feel it appropriate of me to cast judgment pro or con or evaluate the veracity He's seeing

Re: [Vo]:Michael Julian MODERATOR RESPONSE

2008-11-03 Thread William Beaty
On Sun, 2 Nov 2008, Steven Krivit wrote: I confirm (as someone has already stated) that the person posting as: Michael Julian [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not Michel Jullian [EMAIL PROTECTED] I noticed a chain of unusual subscribes/unsubscribes coming from Michael Julian, then inspected the message

RE: [Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan

2008-11-03 Thread Mark Iverson
For the most part I agree that most modern religions have decent goals and try to teach people how to behave in a society, and that it’s the actions of a few zealous members that give it a bad name, but I was not thinking of that when I wrote what I did... But you seem to think that its never