Re: [Vo]:Polar Structure on Saturn

2008-11-21 Thread Horace Heffner
On Nov 20, 2008, at 6:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:44:31 -0900: Hi, [snip] Given that heaven is cube shaped it might need a different docking facility. [snip] ...are we really sure that the biblical measurements imply a cube

[Vo]:We have dark high energy company, Nemesis?

2008-11-21 Thread Taylor J. Smith
Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...are we really sure that the biblical measurements imply a cube shape? Perhaps they just indicate a total volume in a way that was comprehensible to the locals. ;) Horace Heffner wrote: This is indeed apparently highly dependent on the translation and

[Vo]:NewScientist: Matter is merely vacuum fluctuations

2008-11-21 Thread OrionWorks
Here's some Friday Morning reading: http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16095-its-confirmed-matter-is-merely-vacuum-fluctuations.html?full=trueprint=true http://tinyurl.com/5b6b9y My favorite quotes: Quark-antiquark pairs can pop up and momentarily transform a proton into a different, more

Re: [Vo]:Glaciers Discovered on Mars

2008-11-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
That is fantastic! I think this increases the likelihood of life in the universe (the Drake equation parameter). Now we can terraform the place. - Jed

[Vo]:OFF TOPIC Ludwik Kowalski writes about Stalinism

2008-11-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
Cold fusion researcher Ludwik Kowalski has written a book about Stalinism. See: http://www.opednews.com/articles/Bolshevik-morality-by-Ludwik-Kowalski-081120-865.html - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Glaciers Discovered on Mars

2008-11-21 Thread Joe
On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:10:15 -0500 Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is fantastic! I think this increases the likelihood of life in the universe (the Drake equation parameter). Now we can terraform the place. - Jed From what I understand, the gravity on Mars is so slight

Re: [Vo]:Polar Structure on Saturn

2008-11-21 Thread Michel Jullian
To what, the explanation, the journal, neither? ;) Michel 2008/11/21 Horace Heffner [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Nov 21, 2008, at 2:37 AM, Michel Jullian wrote: Ahem, there seems to be a less heavenly explanation to those cloud structures:

[Vo]:Biodiesel Via Cavitation

2008-11-21 Thread Terry Blanton
This company: http://www.cavitationtechnologies.com/Proprietary%20Process.html claims they can make fuel from just about any vegetable oil and methanol using nanocavitation. Terry

Re: [Vo]:Glaciers Discovered on Mars

2008-11-21 Thread leaking pen
well, we could strip mine venus, make it smaller, and ship it all to mars, increasing its gravity. but that will take a LONG while. On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 8:22 AM, Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:10:15 -0500 Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is fantastic! I

[Vo]:Calcars: PHEVs and EVs not in competition

2008-11-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
Interesting comment from CalCars. I think PHEVs are a short-term bridge to EV technology. I doubt they will last for many years as Kramer claims. How many is many, anyway? 10? 20? I would guess 20 at most. His comment is ambiguous. I detect mixed feelings, sort of the way I feel about BLP. If

[Vo]:Want to Live in a Better Place?

2008-11-21 Thread Terry Blanton
Check out their business plan: http://www.betterplace.com/our-bold-plan/business-model/ which is very similar to the Israeli plan. Terry

Re: [Vo]:Glaciers Discovered on Mars

2008-11-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
Joe wrote: From what I understand, the gravity on Mars is so slight that air pressure cannot get above some small amount, which means that free water would evaporate very quickly, not to mention that the atmosphere can never be made breathable. Perhaps it would not be breathable for people

[Vo]:[OT] Detroit Bailout

2008-11-21 Thread Terry Blanton
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20081120/bs_afp/financeeconomyusgulf_081120072928 US seeks 300 billion dlrs from Gulf states: report Thu Nov 20, 2:29 am ET KUWAIT CITY (AFP) – The United States has asked four oil-rich Gulf states for close to 300 billion dollars to help it curb the global financial

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Detroit Bailout

2008-11-21 Thread Edmund Storms
Nice idea, Terry. But what will these investors want in return? Are we now selling our car companies to the Arabs so that they can sell us more oil? Ed On Nov 21, 2008, at 12:23 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20081120/bs_afp/financeeconomyusgulf_081120072928 US

Re: [Vo]:making antimatter

2008-11-21 Thread Terry Blanton
Kewl, now we can realize Angels and Demons (coming to a theatre near you). Terry On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Harry Veeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: News Laser creates billions of antimatter particles Wednesday, 19 November 2008 Cosmos Online Positron factory: Physicist Hui Chen

[Vo]:Vertical Urban Hi-Tech Farming

2008-11-21 Thread OrionWorks
See: http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/science/11/21/urban.agriculture.ap/index.html http://tinyurl.com/6j3z85 Assuming for the moment we do not have a CF or comparable AE breakthrough within the next 10 years or so, (meaning the price of energy remains comparatively expensive) would OLED lighting

[Vo]:New Energy Report From APS

2008-11-21 Thread Horace Heffner
http://www.aps.org/energyefficiencyreport/ APS News Update on the above follows: INSIDE SCIENCE RESEARCH---PHYSICS NEWS UPDATE The American Institute of Physics Bulletin of Research News Number 877 November 21, 2008 www.aip.org/pnu APS ENERGY EFFICIENCY STUDY. Using energy wisely will

Re: [Vo]:making antimatter

2008-11-21 Thread Harry Veeder
or... Tonight's C.S.I. episode: Angel decimated. Pin head suspected. Harry - Original Message - From: Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, November 21, 2008 4:00 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:making antimatter Kewl, now we can realize Angels and Demons (coming to a theatre near

Re: [Vo]:making antimatter

2008-11-21 Thread leaking pen
There we were, Michael, Azrael, and I, dancing on the head of this very cool gold pin we found. Then, this beam of light hits the pin beneath us, and streamers come shooting out. Two of the streamers of energy cross next to Azrael, and POOF, hes gone, man! Michael draws his flaming sword, fight

Re: [Vo]:Polar Structure on Saturn

2008-11-21 Thread thomas malloy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:33:49 -0900: Hi, Even the hexagonal structure itself appears to be just that - a structure. Note the many rectangular substructures. This could be a force field protected city on a hard surface - or

Re: [Vo]:Glaciers Discovered on Mars

2008-11-21 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:10:15 -0500: Hi, Given that Hydrogen is the most common element in the universe, and Oxygen a common product of stellar fusion, it is highly likely that water will be one of the most common compounds in the universe. Consequently I would

[Vo]:Earth's minerals have evolved over time

2008-11-21 Thread Harry Veeder
News Earth's minerals have evolved over time Monday, 17 November 2008 Cosmos Online SYDNEY: Geologists have found that Earth's 'mineral kingdom' has co- evolved with life, and that up to two thirds of the more than 4,000 known types of minerals can be directly or indirectly linked to

Re: [Vo]:Polar Structure on Saturn

2008-11-21 Thread thomas malloy
Horace Heffner wrote: On Nov 20, 2008, at 11:30 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:33:49 -0900: Hi, Even the hexagonal structure itself appears to be just that - a structure. Note The straight sides of the northern polar hexagon

Re: [Vo]:Polar Structure on Saturn

2008-11-21 Thread Harry Veeder
It might besimiliar to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCUg4Kx_CjYfeature=related There are other videos showing the vibration of water, but this one is special. Sinceit is asmall drop of water it is contained by its own surface tension rather than by the sides of a dish. Itisvery

Re: [Vo]:Polar Structure on Saturn

2008-11-21 Thread Harry Veeder
Sorry, this is the video I was talking about. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCXZF3NiPIkfeature=related watch especially after time index 8:19. Harry---BeginMessage--- It might besimiliar to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCUg4Kx_CjYfeature=related There are other videos showing the

Re: [Vo]:Polar Structure on Saturn

2008-11-21 Thread William Beaty
On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even the hexagonal structure itself appears to be just that - a structure. Note the many rectangular substructures. Nah, just pixels. Compare that photo at http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/jpegMod/PIA09185_modest.jpg with this higher-res one at

Re: [Vo]:Polar Structure on Saturn

2008-11-21 Thread Horace Heffner
On Nov 21, 2008, at 4:29 PM, thomas malloy wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:33:49 -0900: Hi, Even the hexagonal structure itself appears to be just that - a structure. Note the many rectangular substructures. This could be a

Re: [Vo]:Polar Structure on Saturn

2008-11-21 Thread thomas malloy
Some of us believe that the New Jerusalem will be a pyramid. Horace Heffner wrote: On Nov 20, 2008, at 6:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:44:31 -0900: Hi, [snip] Given that heaven is cube shaped it might need a different docking