[Vo]:Rothwell comment on zero point energy

2009-12-14 Thread Horace Heffner
On Dec 13, 2009, at 11:06 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: There have been discussions over the years about zero point energy which is supposedly very dense. I asked Scott Little about that once. He said he gave up on zero point energy theory when someone computed that the potential energy in a

Re: [Vo]:zero point query

2009-12-14 Thread Chris Zell
Everytime the subject of zero point energy comes up, I wanna ask, where's the 'drain', the 'cold side',  the 'pressure release'?   At the bottom of the ocean,  you have tons of pressure per square inch but what good is that?  You need an area of reduced pressure to get a flow going.  Likewise,

Re: [Vo]:zero point query

2009-12-14 Thread Terry Blanton
Hmmm, suppose you have an accordion device that you drop into the ocean with a rock. The device pressurizes air as it sinks and locks into place, then you drop the ballast and it floats to the top. You use the pressurized air to do work. Is possible? If so, is it OU? Terry On Mon, Dec 14,

[Vo]:Steorn Demo

2009-12-14 Thread Terry Blanton
From moletrap.co.uk home of the Village of the Damned, former forum members of Steorn: CommentAuthorspeccy * CommentTime 3 hours ago edited quote# 1 I've just telephoned the Waterways Visitor Centre Dublin (+353 1 677 7510). I asked the nice chap who answered whether

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Demo

2009-12-14 Thread Esa Ruoho
Thanks for the phonenumber :-) iPoni sent dis message. Esa Ruoho wrote it. On 14.12.2009, at 18.16, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: From moletrap.co.uk home of the Village of the Damned, former forum members of Steorn: CommentAuthorspeccy * CommentTime 3 hours ago

RE: [Vo]:zero point query

2009-12-14 Thread Jones Beene
Terry: As most every vortician appreciates, it is not OU if you can only do it one time. Even a few hundred times is not enough if it is say: a magmo that spins down more slowly than expected. Continuing to add ballast at the top eats up all the gain - unless the ballast is itself a phase of water

Re: [Vo]:zero point query

2009-12-14 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 12/14/2009 11:11 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: Hmmm, suppose you have an accordion device that you drop into the ocean with a rock. The device pressurizes air as it sinks and locks into place, then you drop the ballast and it floats to the top. You use the pressurized air to do work. Is

[Vo]:Quantum Ring Theory

2009-12-14 Thread Mauro Lacy
Reading the comments section of the physorg.org article (http://www.physorg.com/news157046734.html) posted by Jones Beene at the start of the thread Tracking the colorful Quark I stumbled on this: http://www.chemicalforums.com/index.php?topic=17140.0 in a post from user WGUGLINSKI, Wladimir

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Demo

2009-12-14 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Esa Ruoho: Thanks for the phonenumber :-) iPoni sent dis message. Esa Ruoho wrote it. On 14.12.2009, at 18.16, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: From moletrap.co.uk home of the Village of the Damned, former forum members of Steorn:     CommentAuthor    speccy   *

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Demo

2009-12-14 Thread Esa Ruoho
i rung them and they said the steorn demo starts tomorrow, and is closed from 24th onwards till the end of the year due to xmas hollies, but that it'll be open on 21st and 22nd, so i'll try and visit it. + its free, so hey.. brisk walk in dublin, maybe a few magnets. should be interesting. On

Re: [Vo]:zero point query

2009-12-14 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 12/14/2009 11:11 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: Hmmm, suppose you have an accordion device that you drop into the ocean with a rock. The device pressurizes air as it sinks and locks into place, then you drop the ballast and it floats to the top. You use the pressurized air to do work. Is

Re: [Vo]:Quantum Ring Theory

2009-12-14 Thread Mauro Lacy
Guglinski also claims to explain Cold Fusion as a consequence of his neutron model, but I couldn't find the explanation. The book is not in electronic form. Correction: The book is in electronic form, and (part of it) is accessible in books.google.com:

Re: [Vo]:zero point query

2009-12-14 Thread Horace Heffner
On Dec 14, 2009, at 7:11 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: Hmmm, suppose you have an accordion device that you drop into the ocean with a rock. The device pressurizes air as it sinks and locks into place, then you drop the ballast and it floats to the top. You use the pressurized air to do work.

RE: [Vo]:Quantum Ring Theory

2009-12-14 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Mauro Lacy Guglinski also claims to explain Cold Fusion as a consequence of his neutron model, but I couldn't find the explanation. Correction: The book is in electronic form, and (part of it) is accessible in books.google.com:

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Demo

2009-12-14 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Esa i rung them and they said the steorn demo starts tomorrow, and is closed from 24th onwards till the end of the year due to xmas hollies, but that it'll be open on 21st and 22nd, so i'll try and visit it. + its free, so hey.. brisk walk in dublin, maybe a few magnets. should be

Re: [Vo]:Rothwell comment on zero point energy

2009-12-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Horace Heffner wrote: Richard Feynman and John Wheeler calculated there is enough energy *available* (but not manifest) from the vacuum fluctuations in a light bulb to boil the seas. The problem with accessing zero point energy is there is a very low energy density unless sub-nuclear sized

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Demo

2009-12-14 Thread Esa Ruoho
k, here's what they told me on the phone: it opens tomorrow, tuesday, at 10am and it'll be private invitation only till 1pm, when it opens up for the public. it will be on-going for the next few weeks. generally the demonstration will be open from 10am to 6pm, but the security guard on the other

Re: [Vo]:zero point query

2009-12-14 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 12/14/2009 12:45 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: On 12/14/2009 11:11 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: Hmmm, suppose you have an accordion device that you drop into the ocean with a rock. The device pressurizes air as it sinks and locks into place, then you drop the ballast and it floats to the

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Demo

2009-12-14 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Esa Ruoho esaru...@gmail.com wrote: now im wondering if its even anywhere near dublin! ?!? Yes, it is here: http://snipurl.com/tnzie Terry

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Demo

2009-12-14 Thread Esa Ruoho
heh its 7minutes away from where i definitely know how to get to. this should be good - maybe i can give up on trying to ring them about the website, im sure it'll be updated around in the middle of tomorrow. On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec

Re: [Vo]:zero point query

2009-12-14 Thread Terry Blanton
Oh, dear. I intuitively believed what you have proved. Hope the company is okay still. Terry On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote: (at length)

Re: [Vo]:zero point query

2009-12-14 Thread Terry Blanton
Electrolyte included! Terry On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote: On Dec 14, 2009, at 7:11 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: Hmmm, suppose you have an accordion device that you drop into the ocean with a rock.  The device pressurizes air as it sinks and locks

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Demo

2009-12-14 Thread Terry Blanton
I'm blocked from streaming video here but it looks like they will be live tomorrow: http://www.livestream.com/guide/search?count=search_tag=steorn (from the Village of the Damned) Terry On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Esa Ruoho esaru...@gmail.com wrote: heh its 7minutes away from where i

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Demo

2009-12-14 Thread Esa Ruoho
http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/mensor_2009/steorndemo.jpg On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:29 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: I'm blocked from streaming video here but it looks like they will be live tomorrow: http://www.livestream.com/guide/search?count=search_tag=steorn

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Demo

2009-12-14 Thread Esa Ruoho
a friend gave that, its not mine, i've never seen anything. On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Esa Ruoho esaru...@gmail.com wrote: http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/mensor_2009/steorndemo.jpg

RE: [Vo]:zero point query

2009-12-14 Thread Jones Beene
Whoa, speaking of strange coincidence ... and ... electrolytes ... and ... err ... PEE Power ;-) ya gotta follow some of this thread on YouTube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITerHqq6XPU -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton Electrolyte included! Terry Horace Heffner wrote: Take

Re: [Vo]:Quantum Ring Theory

2009-12-14 Thread Mauro Lacy
Jones Beene wrote: ... Well - this is provocative, especially the part about the Letts/Cravens effect, etc but it will take some time to study. I hope Mauro will not hesitate to include his own thoughts and criticism. I'm in a somewhat similar situation as you are at the moment: I found

Re: [Vo]:zero point query

2009-12-14 Thread Horace Heffner
On Dec 14, 2009, at 8:56 AM, Horace Heffner wrote: The following is in regards to the bubble lift idea at: http://mtaonline.net/~hheffner/SLVN.pdf The density of water is 1000 kg/m^3. The pressure of 1 atmosphere is about 10,000 kgf/m^2. At a depth of x meters, the weight of water above

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