Re: [Vo]:Fwd: Can retarded gravity be counteracted by tidal acceleration?

2010-03-31 Thread David Jonsson
Why not investigating an thought example of two relatively big bodies rotating around each other in perfectly circular orbit? Lets also assume that these bodies are rotating around their own axis with no inclination. The retardation means that one body will feel the force of the other assuming

[Vo]:Progress in machine translation: Polish blog comments on cold fusion

2010-03-31 Thread Jed Rothwell
This morning I noticed several people linked to LENR-CANR.org via a blog in Polish: http://slomski.us/2010/03/30/wielka-spekulacja I ran this through Google translate:

Re: [Vo]:Krivit comments on his annoying trick

2010-03-31 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 03/31/2010 12:46 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: At 09:30 PM 3/30/2010, Harry Veeder wrote: I don't see anything wrong with the way Krivit presented the data in order to make his point. As I just mentioned in another post, I haven't studied his point in this case. Perhaps you'd take a

Re: [Vo]:glabal warming conference

2010-03-31 Thread Jed Rothwell
Frank Znidarsic wrote: We will it have a bad effect or will some warming be good. So what if the ice melts, ice is good for nothing. I hope that is your idea of a joke. Then there came a speaker from Australia. Some areas in Australia did not have any significant rain in 15 years. The

Re: [Vo]:Krivit comments on his annoying trick

2010-03-31 Thread Jed Rothwell
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: I don't agree with Rothwell that a truncated graph is never acceptable, but using it to create an exaggerated impression is indeed reprehensible. If you truncate the graph, you should say so: graph is truncated from original. Also, never remove the numbers from

Re: [Vo]:Krivit comments on his annoying trick

2010-03-31 Thread Michel Jullian
Friends, I object to the heavy Krivit bashing, it is not called for, even if the evidence for the 24MeV heat/He was solid enough which I don't think it is. And he is free to present his graphs as he pleases in his slides, especially if he directs the reader to a more complete graph elsewhere. In

Re: [Vo]:Krivit comments on his annoying trick

2010-03-31 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 03/31/2010 10:56 AM, Michel Jullian wrote: Friends, I object to the heavy Krivit bashing, it is not called for, After looking over his slides, I actually think it is called for. I am, in fact, extremely surprised by your defense of him. Krivit appears to be accusing much of the CF

Re: [Vo]:Krivit comments on his annoying trick

2010-03-31 Thread Jed Rothwell
Michel Jullian wrote: I object to the heavy Krivit bashing, it is not called for, even if the evidence for the 24MeV heat/He was solid enough . . . My objection has nothing to do with the 24 MeV issue. I object to sloppy, biased reporting, and amateur mistakes such as removing the numbers

Re: [Vo]:non radiative transfer of energy

2010-03-31 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 03/30/2010 05:26 PM, Jones Beene wrote: -Original Message- From: Stephen A. Lawrence That's certainly true -- it looks suspicious. But again, it's not conclusive, and it doesn't point to any specific error. Thinking back on it, there was never a smoking gun or specific

Re: [Vo]:Krivit comments on his annoying trick

2010-03-31 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, March 31, 2010 12:46:35 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Krivit comments on his annoying trick At 09:30 PM 3/30/2010, Harry Veeder wrote: I don't see anything wrong

Re: [Vo]:Krivit comments on his annoying trick

2010-03-31 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com Even if you do not intend to create an exaggerated impression, people like me will assume that is your intention. You have made a naive mistake. So don't do it without a good reason, and state your reason. I guess all

[Vo]:On the radio sat, join me

2010-03-31 Thread FZNIDARSIC
_http://www.worldsci.org/php/index.php?tab0=Eventstab1=Displayid=245_ (http://www.worldsci.org/php/index.php?tab0=Eventstab1=Displayid=245) Frank Znidarsic

RE: [Vo]:non radiative transfer of energy

2010-03-31 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Stephen A. Lawrence If the current RMS value is off by a similar factor, then the measured input power is off by a factor 3.5^2 -- it's about 12 times too small. Thanks for the excellent analysis. This seems about right. And also thanks for dredging up this

Re: [Vo]:Krivit comments on his annoying trick

2010-03-31 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 03/31/2010 12:24 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: - Original Message From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com Even if you do not intend to create an exaggerated impression, people like me will assume that is your intention. You have made a naive mistake. So don't do it

RE: [Vo]:non radiative transfer of energy

2010-03-31 Thread George Holz
I don't recall Naudin's specific error and I don't have time to look at what his site now claims. However, the error was quite obvious. I think it was that Naudin used (P*V)*(P*I) to calculate power thus introducing an extra factor of P and explaining the OU proportional to 1/P. George Holz

Re: [Vo]:Progress in machine translation: Polish blog comments on cold fusion

2010-03-31 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: The quality of the translation is surprisingly good. Google is getting better at this every day. Yes, I was able to read Peter Glück's newsletter translated from Romanian. T

[Vo]:Added Bush Lagowski paper to library

2010-03-31 Thread Jed Rothwell
I added the paper referenced by Krivit to the library: Bush, B.F. and J.J. Lagowski, Trace Elements Added to Palladium by Electrolysis in Heavy Water. 1999, EPRI: Palo Alto, CA http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/BushBFtraceeleme.pdf I should check the EPRI site periodically to find out if they

Re: [Vo]:Krivit comments on his annoying trick

2010-03-31 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
Sent from my iPhone On Mar 31, 2010, at 10:56 AM, Michel Jullian michelj...@gmail.com wrote: In fact, I was wondering, who cares about the heat, helium production alone is an indisputable proof of LENRs, isn't it? A familiarity with the history of the dispute, and even of very recent

Re: [Vo]:Progress in machine translation: Polish blog comments on cold fusion

2010-03-31 Thread Peter Gluck
Thank you, Terry I am honored! By the way my editorials are not popular (I am an intellectual), however the search part is really rich in information. This answer is in the same time a test- I have sent a lot of info re Miles's results and Takahashi's ACS paper to Vortex but it did not arrived

[Vo]:Iranian nuclear scientist defects to the U.S.

2010-03-31 Thread Jed Rothwell
Really. It sounds like a James Bond Cold War thriller. See: http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/iran-nuclear-scientist-defects-us-cia-intelligence-coup/story?id=10231729page=1http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/iran-nuclear-scientist-defects-us-cia-intelligence-coup/story?id=10231729 Good for U.S. intel!

Re: [Vo]:Krivit comments on his annoying trick

2010-03-31 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 03/31/2010 02:11 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: Sent from my iPhone On Mar 31, 2010, at 10:56 AM, Michel Jullian michelj...@gmail.com wrote: In fact, I was wondering, who cares about the heat, helium production alone is an indisputable proof of LENRs, isn't it? A familiarity

[Vo]:global warming

2010-03-31 Thread Taylor J. Smith
Frank Znidarsic wrote on 3-31-10; I attended a global warming conference today at the University of Pittsburgh. I was not convinced of the reality of it, is global warming real or is it not real. Hi All, 3-3-10 Global warming is real. A couple of solar cycles are on the downswing right

Re: [Vo]:Krivit comments on his annoying trick

2010-03-31 Thread Jed Rothwell
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: He generally treats the silence that ultimately results from experts in the field, after attempts to answer Krivit's often hostile questions, as proof of stonewalling and the expert having something to hide. See how he treated the ENEA researchers over his own silly

Re: [Vo]:global warming

2010-03-31 Thread FZNIDARSIC
Another speaker from Switzerland. Showed a picture of the top of Matterhorn. It broke off and slid down. The culprit, the melting of the permafrost due to global warming. Frank

Re: [Vo]:glabal warming conference

2010-03-31 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: 40% of the population may have to be relocated. If it does not rain in the next few years Australia as a nation may not exist. That's awful! I did not realize the situation is so dire. I wish those people in Australia would take a serious look at cold fusion. As I described in my

Re: [Vo]:Progress in machine translation: Polish blog comments on cold fusion

2010-03-31 Thread Terry Blanton
I honor you with my curiosity? Well, I enjoyed your article on 2012 and the young ones' discussion. When I have time, I will read others thanks to Google! T On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you, Terry I am honored! By the way my editorials are

Re: [Vo]:Progress in machine translation: Polish blog comments on cold fusion

2010-03-31 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton wrote: I honor you with my curiosity? For a writer or scientist, there is no higher honor. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Progress in machine translation: Polish blog comments on cold fusion

2010-03-31 Thread Terry Blanton
Peter writes here: http://info.kappa.ro/ If you use the Google Chrome browser, you can set it to automatically translate. His latest entry speaks of how far we are (not) removed from cavemen. T On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Terry Blanton wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Progress in machine translation: Polish blog comments on cold fusion

2010-03-31 Thread Terry Blanton
Peter's quote: But today the world has changed for the better, thinking technology, we can afford and need to think differently as a cave man. It reminds me of the Geico commercials: So easy a caveman can do it. We call ourselves civilized; but, I say we have a long way to go. T On Wed, Mar

Re: [Vo]:Progress in machine translation: Polish blog comments on cold fusion

2010-03-31 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: By the way my editorials are not popular (I am an intellectual), however the search part is really rich in information. The truth is rarely popular, Peter. Vorts, go to the previous entry and read about how Peter fakes

Re: [Vo]:Krivit comments on his annoying trick

2010-03-31 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:40 AM 3/31/2010, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: On 03/31/2010 12:46 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: As I just mentioned in another post, I haven't studied his point in this case. Perhaps you'd take a look and explain it. I'm tired of being the only one who deconstructs his rants in detail.

Re: [Vo]:Krivit comments on his annoying trick

2010-03-31 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: God, protect me from false friends, who will agree with me when I'm astray, and stoke the fires of my self-righteousness. . . . to further their agenda. Is that yours or a quote from an adept? T

Re: [Vo]:Krivit comments on his annoying trick

2010-03-31 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message From: Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, March 31, 2010 11:09:59 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Krivit comments on his annoying trick You have put your finger on the point which Krivit either has totally missed, or is totally

Re: [Vo]:Krivit's new claim, transcript of ACS Krivit Pop Quiz

2010-03-31 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, March 31, 2010 12:17:48 AM Subject: [Vo]:Krivit's new claim, transcript of ACS Krivit Pop Quiz http://newenergytimes.com/v2/blog/?p=138 This is going to take some work.

Re: [Vo]:Krivit comments on his annoying trick

2010-03-31 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 12:15 PM 3/31/2010, Harry Veeder wrote: Would you be willing to check it out, cite and look at the original sources, etc.? I am simply calling Jed out on his non-sense charge about the abuse of statistics. I don't know enough to judge Krivit's point. You don't know enough to judge

[Vo]:Critique of Krivit's anti-fusion summary.

2010-03-31 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At http://newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2010/ColdFusionClaimsQuestioned.shtml Steve Krivit summarizes issue 34 of NET. 1. 24 MeV/4He Does Not Exist Contrary to what the public has heard and believed, the purported best evidence for the theory of low-energy nuclear

Re: [Vo]:Krivit comments on his annoying trick

2010-03-31 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 12:24 PM 3/31/2010, Harry Veeder wrote: I guess all readers of Krivit are Jed clones. We could do worse. But I'm older than Jed, I think. Still, everything I know about cold fusion I learned from Jed. Well, or from his web site. Slightly exaggerating, but he's been extraordinarily

Re: [Vo]:Krivit comments on his annoying trick

2010-03-31 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 02:37 PM 3/31/2010, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: On 03/31/2010 02:11 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: On Mar 31, 2010, at 10:56 AM, Michel Jullian michelj...@gmail.com wrote: In fact, I was wondering, who cares about the heat, helium production alone is an indisputable proof of LENRs, isn't

Re: [Vo]:global warming

2010-03-31 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 03/31/2010 05:29 PM, fznidar...@aol.com wrote: Another speaker from Switzerland. Showed a picture of the top of Matterhorn. It broke off and slid down. The culprit, the melting of the permafrost due to global warming. This happened in 2003, according to stories I saw when I googled

[Vo]:checking my understanding of Lorentz contraction

2010-03-31 Thread Francis X Roarty
Am I correct in believing a near luminal basketball could pass through the eye of a stationary needle?

Re: [Vo]:Progress in machine translation: Polish blog comments on cold fusion

2010-03-31 Thread Peter Gluck
The basis for this editorial was the book Caveman Logic by the Canadian psychologist Hank Davis. The persistence of an obsolete mode of thinking is damaging- and makes Davis more atheist than Dawkins. On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 3:03 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Peter's quote: But

Re: [Vo]:Progress in machine translation: Polish blog comments on cold fusion

2010-03-31 Thread Peter Gluck
I am very much pro-Google. From the very start of my newsletter, I have -at Search a separate column for Google. When I have read their (Brin Page) paper in 1998 I had a technorevelation- this is the Solution! And I was right as we can see inter alia from this translation performance too. I am