[Vo]:Where are the drones and robots when you need them?

2011-03-15 Thread Horace Heffner
See: http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/nuclear-crisis-deepens- as-third-reactor-loses-cooling-capacity/2011/03/14/ABk6rQV_story.html http://tinyurl.com/67tp62y A commercial satellite photo of the complex showed piles of debris on top of units 1 and 3, which raised new fears

[Vo]:Re: Where are the drones and robots when you need them?

2011-03-15 Thread Horace Heffner
This is an expanded and corrected version of the prior post in this thread. I think the primary danger from Fukushima 1 lies in the fact it uses MOX fuel (mixed oxide fuel, the oxides being of uranium and plutonium). Also, there is a vast amount of stored fuel outside all the reactor

Re: [Vo]:Re: Where are the drones and robots when you need them?

2011-03-15 Thread Mauro Lacy
Information related to the internal explosion in unit 2 at Fukushima 1, by Yoichi Shimatsu: http://newamericamedia.org/2011/03/tohoku-quake-and-tsunami-monitoring-internal-combustion.php From the article: That's the bad news. The even worse news is that the explosive force of the internal blast

[Vo]:Rossi's E-Cat: modulable output or not?

2011-03-15 Thread SHIRAKAWA Akira
Hello group, Have a look here: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=360cpage=11#comment-27734 [...] Is it easy to adjust the output power of that unit or is it just “on” or “off” 10 kW? # Andrea Rossi March 14th, 2011 at 2:16 PM Dear Mr Mats Heijkenskjold: Yes, you can adjust it,

Re: [Vo]:Re: Where are the drones and robots when you need them?

2011-03-15 Thread Mauro Lacy
Another link, explaining the function of the (now missing due to the explosion) suppression pool at Unit 2: http://www.ucsusa.org/nuclear_power/nuclear_power_risk/safety/concerns-about-relying-on.html It seems the only way to avoid a definitive rupture of the containment vessel is by venting more

[Vo]:National Sound Archive Recording

2011-03-15 Thread Enola Gay
The National Sound Archive released the cockpit voice recording of the first bombing run over Hiroshima in 1945: ... Co-pilot: What if the bomb doesn't work? Pilot: Son, in about 10 years we'll sell them our incredibly safe nuclear power technology. Co-pilot: Suckers! ...

[Vo]:IAEA reports on Japanese reactors

2011-03-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
See: http://www.iaea.org/newscenter/news/tsunamiupdate01.html - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's E-Cat: modulable output or not?

2011-03-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
SHIRAKAWA Akira wrote: This seems to be contradicting information. Darn right it is. I have been dealing with Rossi for a year and I have encountered this problem often. Ask him the same question 3 times and you get 4 different answers! I wonder if there have been actual changes or if

RE: [Vo]:Rossi's E-Cat: modulable output or not?

2011-03-15 Thread Jones Beene
... or else Rossi (more likely a subcontractor) really did add a common control element to the circuit between the two answers, which would not be surprising at all. It would be more worrisome if Rossi 'made up' the identity of a Board Member. That would be in reference to George Kelly of the

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's E-Cat: modulable output or not?

2011-03-15 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 03/15/2011 10:34 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: One person who knows him [Rossi] better than I do said the problem is that Rossi's imagination is so vivid, he sees what he wants to see, instead of reality. That is not a great trait in a researcher. (Obviously.) (And now I'll crawl back under

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's E-Cat: modulable output or not?

2011-03-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote: (And now I'll crawl back under my rock, where I've been hiding out for the last week or two...) I would safely stay there until the Fukushima problems are resolved. T

RE: [Vo]:Rossi's E-Cat: modulable output or not?

2011-03-15 Thread Roarty, Francis X
The PWM scheme is basically throttling back a runaway reaction that doesn't really have any stable state between starvation and runaway but creates stability using duty factor. The PWM has to be balanced against the slower heat extraction loop so the controlled increase or reduction of any

[Vo]:No recent photos or videos of Fukushima

2011-03-15 Thread Horace Heffner
http://en.rian.ru/world/20110315/163023358.html The Japanese authorities on Tuesday ordered the injection of water into the spent nuclear fuel pool at the No. 4 reactor at Japan's quake-stricken Fukushima Nuclear Power Plant, Kyodo news reported. The plant's operator, Tokyo Electric Power

Re: [Vo]:No recent photos or videos of Fukushima

2011-03-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote: http://en.rian.ru/world/20110315/163023358.html The government announced a no-fly zone over the plant to avoid the spread of radiation. Substitute 'the truth' in place of 'radiation' for a more accurate statement

[Vo]:Energy Catalyzer on Wikipedia

2011-03-15 Thread Esa Ruoho
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Catalyzer

[Vo]:GE Scientists Quit Over Mark I Design

2011-03-15 Thread Terry Blanton
Bitter vindication. http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/fukushima-mark-nuclear-reactor-design-caused-ge-scientist/story?id=13141287 Fukushima: Mark 1 Nuclear Reactor Design Caused GE Scientist To Quit In Protest Damaged Japanese Nuclear Plant Has Five Mark 1 Reactors POST A COMMENT BY MATTHEW MOSK

[Vo]:Rossi's Inspiration ??

2011-03-15 Thread Jones Beene
The information below was sent to me by an anonymous person who could be a conspiracy theorist, due to a number of other rants and mysterious ravings. or not. But heck, I will read and try to apply a fair appraisal to almost anything related to the Rossi invention - given the chance that it

Re: [Vo]:Energy Catalyzer on Wikipedia

2011-03-15 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Esa: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Catalyzer Succinct, and to the point. I wonder how long it will take before the anti-CF police take notice and proceed to correct it. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

[Vo]:Reactors under control?

2011-03-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
The latest news reports and the IAEA reports make me think the reactors are now under control and cooled down. The danger of a melt-down melt-through or recombination explosion rupturing the reactor vessel seems to be receding. This morning, NHK broadcast a 15-minute look back at developments

Re: [Vo]:Reactors under control?

2011-03-15 Thread Terry Blanton
Except that a second fire has broken out in F4 and they fear spent fuel fires in F5 and F6. See Horace's post on the lack of moderators in spent fuel cooling ponds. T

Re: [Vo]:Reactors under control?

2011-03-15 Thread Terry Blanton
So 750 workers have left and only 50 remain. How do they choose the divine wind? T

Re: [Vo]:Reactors under control?

2011-03-15 Thread Dennis
I think that they rotate the workers so than anyone does not get a really big dose. Dennis -- From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 4:52 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Reactors under control? So 750

Re: [Vo]:Reactors under control?

2011-03-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Dennis den...@netmdc.com wrote: I think that they rotate the workers so than anyone does not get a really big dose. I hope you are right. T

[Vo]:It's Much Worse Than I Thought

2011-03-15 Thread Terry Blanton
I was puzzled what was going on with F4. Now I understand. The spent fuel ponds not only protect spent fuel; but, they temporarily store active fuel rods while they are doing reactor maintenance inspections. The cores of 4, 5 and 6 have their fuel stored in the SPENT FUEL PONDS! Quadruple plus

Re: [Vo]:It's Much Worse Than I Thought

2011-03-15 Thread Charles Hope
So why is it bad to have spent fuel around active fuel rods? Sent from my iPhone. On Mar 15, 2011, at 20:32, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: I was puzzled what was going on with F4. Now I understand. The spent fuel ponds not only protect spent fuel; but, they temporarily store

Re: [Vo]:It's Much Worse Than I Thought

2011-03-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 8:57 PM, Charles Hope lookslikeiwasri...@gmail.com wrote: So why is it bad to have spent fuel around active fuel rods? Sorta has something to do with neutron density. The water not only acts as a coolant but also as a neutron moderator. Place the active rods in

Re: [Vo]:It's Much Worse Than I Thought

2011-03-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Well, it's not good. I forgot to mention that the spent fuel pond is OUTSIDE THE SECONDARY CONTAINMENT VESSEL. As Jed says, nothing to see here, move along. sigh T

Re: [Vo]:It's Much Worse Than I Thought

2011-03-15 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 06:11 PM 3/15/2011, Terry Blanton wrote: I forgot to mention that the spent fuel pond is OUTSIDE THE SECONDARY CONTAINMENT VESSEL. That's probably good news ... they could possibly pluck them out by helicopter.

Re: [Vo]:It's Much Worse Than I Thought

2011-03-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 9:11 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: As Jed says, nothing to see here, move along. F5 and F6 will have fires tomorrow. I hope I am wrong. T

Re: [Vo]:It's Much Worse Than I Thought

2011-03-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 9:20 PM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: That's probably good news ... they could possibly pluck them out by helicopter. The helico's have been recalled. It's not a viable solution. The volume requirement of too great. T

RE: [Vo]:It's Much Worse Than I Thought

2011-03-15 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
...And if the top is open, use aerial fire fighting tankers to drop boraxo solutions all over the place. Hoyt Stearns Scottsdale, Arizona US -Original Message- From: Alan J Fletcher [mailto:a...@well.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 6:21 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com

[Vo]:More on the Tau vs. Pi controversy

2011-03-15 Thread Harry Veeder
Pi day threatened by Tau protestors http://www.salon.com/entertainment/movies/interviews/index.html?story=%2Fent%2Ftv%2Ffeature%2F2011%2F03%2F14%2Fnational_pi_day_viral_videos http://tinyurl.com/4pecdjl Includes a fast talking defence of tau while a cherry pie is made. harry

Re: [Vo]:It's Much Worse Than I Thought

2011-03-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: This is far worse than what is happening in reactors 1, 2 and 3. Except for three which has MOX fuel. Oh, and F2 which likely has a core breach. Still not as bad as F4. T

[Vo]:Sec. Edano announces probable unit 3 core breach

2011-03-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
Just now on NHK, Cabinet Sec. Edano held a press conference. Large clouds of white smoke or steam have been rising from unit 3. Edano said that some of this is steam vented from reactor while adding cooling water but some of it very likely from a breach in the reactor. He did not specify whether

Re: [Vo]:Reactors under control?

2011-03-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
Dennis den...@netmdc.com wrote: I think that they rotate the workers so than anyone does not get a really big dose. There are probably not enough to rotate. The Japanese press reported that the control room has been abandoned as too radioactive, and that people opening the valves and doing

[Vo]:TEPCO says no unit 3 breach

2011-03-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
After Edano talked, some engineers held a press conference. They said that the very latest data indicates that the cloud of steam or smoke was not the source of the radiation spike. That was probably from the breach in the unit 2 torus reported yesterday. The two events happened to occur at the

[Vo]:Workers removed from Fukushima Dai-ichi complex

2011-03-15 Thread Horace Heffner
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/fire-breaks-again-at-reactor-at- stricken-japanese-nuclear-plant/2011/03/15/ABipVgW_story.html? wpisrc=nl_natlalert http://tinyurl.com/4vwt2cu The level of radiation at the plant surged to 1,000 millisieverts early Wednesday before coming down to 800-600