Dear Mr Paul Fernhout:
Thank you for your insight. In October, with the start up of the 1 MW
plant I will also release the theory behind the effect.
Warm regards,
A.R.
http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-04-physicists-visualize-warped-space.html
http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-04-physicists-visualize-warped-space.html#
Two doughnut-shaped vortexes ejected by a pulsating black hole. Also shown
at the center are two red and two blue vortex lines attached to the
Thank you Terry!
Sorry for sleeping during this looong thread- geography is destiny even on
the short term. It is not excluded that he adds something to the nickel that
helps for a better nanostructure genesis or for an easier, faster and more
thorough removal of the gases from the active surface.
From Terry and Peter:
...
I'm willing to bet that Peter Gluck is right and Rossi bakes his Ni in
a vacuum to remove the gaseous impurities then puts it in the reaction
chamber under the bell jar. I think the catalyst is a red herring.
Meaning Rossi's Ni contains naturally found isotopic
Yessir!
normal, matural clean Ni ready to be nanometrized and degassed properly.
Isotopic enrichment is very difficult and costly..
I don't uinderstend exactly your idea with the prper pressure- they add
hydrogen, this is adsorbed in part, you cannot add exactly a dosis of
hydrogen- but surely
It can be argued that the 'Reifenschweiler effect' is one of the great
unsolved mysteries of physics.
In terms of real applications and commerce, it is probably FAR more
important to our future wealth and happiness than the Higgs boson, the
darling of the mainstream - especially if the knowledge
Hi,
I agree with Jed.
My first-hand personal experience with Italian people is the same.
Having to talk with them in meetings during several days can be very
exhausting due to their different pronounciation and sometimes
misunderstanding of the English language.
My personal classic example
As I said to Jones Beene, Rossi is often secretive. You might say he is
openly secretive, meaning he makes no bones about the fact that he is hiding
information. That is partly what he did in his response to me, below.
He claims he can enrich Ni cheaply. It may be that he is lying about this.
But
On 2011-04-12 16:25, Jed Rothwell wrote:
As I said to Jones Beene, Rossi is often secretive. You might say he is
openly secretive, meaning he makes no bones about the fact that he is
hiding information. That is partly what he did in his response to me, below.
By the way, I'm under the
From Peter Gluck:
...
I don't uinderstend exactly your idea with the prper pressure- they add
hydrogen, this is adsorbed in part, you cannot add exactly a dosis of
hydrogen- but surely there is a best practices type protocol here.
My apologies, Peter.
Let me try to clarify my previous
Who do you think alerted him?
I hope no one went up to him and told him to stop sharing information.
It would make sense if his patent lawyers did so, but if a member of the cold
fusion community did so I would be furious.
From: SHIRAKAWA Akira
SHIRAKAWA Akira shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote:
By the way, I'm under the impression that Rossi has been made aware of
public technical discussions about his invention and on websites and mailing
lists like Vortex (or perhaps he even reads them himself) . . .
He has been aware of them all
noone noone thesteornpa...@yahoo.com wrote:
Who do you think alerted him?
He does not need to be alerted. He is an experienced businessman. No one
makes a dime in business if he gives away his technical knowledge and trade
secrets for free.
I hope no one went up to him and told him to stop
Say noone noone . are you the Malloy character who was here a few years
ago, and could add little more than far-right rhetoric to any science
discussion?
Why should we care how furious a noone with noinsight to these issues, gets?
What's you real purpose on vortex - the next election?
It was told me that some of the spurious results that have plagued the
CF community for the past 20 years is due to the fact that the process
is extremely susceptible to environmental/weather changes.
If we speak about Pd-D, perhaps the best is to find out what was the best,
most consistent,
I am not saying he should give away all the information.
For his sake, he should not.
But it might be better for the world if the information did leak out.
I would not at all be upset if his lawyers told him to stop talking because he
was risking his IP. That is their job.
However, for a
No, I was not here a few years ago.
By the way, I'm not far right. I am a libertarian (no longer affiliated with
the
party since they nominated Bob Barr the biggest drug warrior in congress as
their presidential candidate) and Ron Paul supporter.
To be blunt, I don't care if you give a hoot
The answer, of course, is for him to have a patent application that fully
discloses his invention so that others skilled in the art can duplicate his
results. If he just submitted an application that would avoid undo
experimentation then there would be no problem with getting a patent and for
No, I was not here a few years ago.
By the way, I'm not far right. I am a libertarian (no longer
affiliated with the party since they nominated Bob Barr the
biggest drug warrior in congress as their presidential
candidate) and Ron Paul supporter.
You should send 'political' or any other OT
From: noone noone
* I simply do not support illegal immigration. Opposing illegal immigration
and desiring those that invade the USA to be deported is not being xenophobic
at all…. My purpose on this list is to learn as much as I can about the Rossi
technology
Have you checked
I don't think this was mentioned yet...
Apparently they have seen energetic particles of 100-300keV.
The following excerpt from one of the Ny Teknik QA sessions with Rossi...
Peter Ekström: In the fusion of a proton with Ni-58 a substantial activity of
Cu-59 is formed.
Cu-59 decays with a
From: Dennis
The answer, of course, is for him to have a patent application that fully
discloses his invention so that others skilled in the art can duplicate
his results. If he just submitted an application that would avoid undo
experimentation then there would be no problem with getting a
I've been following this discussion for a while and now I think Mr. Rossi needs
to be aware that his intellectual property claims may be in danger. I can
understand that he would like to have it both ways. He would like to have a
patent and he would like to keep the essential ingredients a
Dennis den...@netmdc.com wrote:
The answer, of course, is for him to have a patent application that fully
discloses his invention so that others skilled in the art can duplicate
his results.
He knows that. He now has a good patent attorney and he hopes to get a
patent soon. With a discovery
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
EXACTAMUNDO! He cannot have it both ways.
Of course he can it both ways! All discoverers and inventors do. ATT had it
both ways with the transistor; Edison with countless discoveries. The
discoverer wants people to replicate, sell the technology BUT he
Jones,
I was in fact preparing a similar thread but yours put mine to
shame. I would however remind you of Focardi's radio interview
Where he states :
[snip] There are no neutrons. Fortunately, there are the core of nickel
because it is a hole deep enough if it was shallower
I am trying to make sense out of these patents references that are included
in the Rossi patent. Why is Rossi referencing these other patents?
Current guiding
Or quite possibly the cheap Ni enrichment is actually the heart of the
process and the role of his secret catalyst is only to remove certain
isotopes.
Fran
Michael Foster mf...@yahoo.com wrote:
I've been following this discussion for a while and now I think Mr. Rossi
needs to be aware that his intellectual property claims may be in danger.
He knows that. Many people have advised him of that, including me.
I can understand that he would like
On second thought, I may have been a bit hasty in claiming that Rossi was
disingenuous about his explanation of iron in the Cat-E reactor ash.
The majority of the iron might have come from the reaction vessel and
produced by spattering. However, not saying that a minority part was iron as
the
On 04/12/2011 10:25 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
As I said to Jones Beene, Rossi is often secretive. You might say he
is openly secretive, meaning he makes no bones about the fact that he
is hiding information. That is partly what he did in his response to
me, below.
He claims he can enrich Ni
Jeff Driscoll may have posted this Blacklight Power link earlier without
comment. It could relate to Rossi, but in a negative way.
http://www.blacklightpower.com/papers/Eng%20Power050410S.pdf
This is the first time that I have noticed how the new Mills' reactor scheme
could be similar to the
That's just my point. Since he has publicly announced that the best mode is not
included in his patent application, his patent is invalid as soon as it is
issued. I'm quite aware that inventors play around with the best mode
requirement, but they don't tell the world before their patent is
Just to specify, I was not the one who started the political discussion.
Someone
else took a jab at the right wing. I'm glad to not discuss politics here. I
would rather focus on cold fusion. But if someone jabs first I'll comment back.
Thanks for the info!!!
Michael Foster mf...@yahoo.com wrote:
. . . Since he has publicly announced that the best mode is not included in
his patent application, his patent is invalid as soon as it is issued.
Did he say that? I missed it.
He is making a new application. I assume it will have best version of the
I think Rossi is in a very tough situation. One part of him probably does NOT
want anyone to replicate, because it could jeopardize his intellectual
property.
However, as an engineer and the inventor of an amazing technology there is
OBVIOUSLY a part of him that wants people to replicate. I
Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote:
But then, how come the sample sent to the lab in Sweden wasn't enriched?
They tested the nickel and the copper and both appeared to be natural.
Was it a bogus sample?
Who knows. Maybe he uses enriched samples sometimes and sometimes not. Maybe
he
See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Energy_Catalyzer#Response_by_Mats_Lewan
This includes a handy link to all NyTeknik articles on cold fusion:
http://www.nyteknik.se/taggar/?tag=Cold+Fusion
- Jed
Rossi knows these problems very well, and he has already modified his patent in
december 2010:
Citation:
For overcoming the above rejection grounds against novelty and inventive step,
original claims 1 to 15 have been cancelled, and a new set of claims 1 to 9 has
been drafted and herein
I don't know if any of Rossi's particular results are as stated or
not. He has made so many inconsistent statements regarding
experimental facts that the situation is clouded at best. I also
haven't had time to read all the many posts of late. I see there are
various new people here. For
Angela Kemmler wrote:
Rossi knows these problems very well, and he has already modified his patent in
december 2010:
. . .
http://www.esowatch.com/doc/application_rossi.004908.pdf
That is an interesting document.
This version is not searchable so it took me a while to figure out that
the
In reply to Peter Gluck's message of Tue, 12 Apr 2011 18:26:41 +0300:
Hi,
[snip]
And, in principle. will we ever have a technologizable Pd-D cold fusion?
Why would we want a technology based upon scarce ( expensive) substances (Pd
D) when we can have one based on cheap and readily available
In reply to Peter Gluck's message of Tue, 12 Apr 2011 18:26:41 +0300:
Hi,
[snip]
I don't see any reason for wjich
an isotope of nickel could function better than an other isotope of
nickel???
I explained this in a previous post. The neutron rich isotopes probably have a
higher nuclear cross
yes, indeed. D1 is the Arata patent.
Angela
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In reply to Peter Gluck's message of Tue, 12 Apr 2011 18:26:41 +0300:
Hi,
[snip]
And enrichment is very expensive difficult.
...and so unnecessary. If the reactions to stable copper are preferred (by the
reaction mechanism itself) above other reactions, then Ni62 Ni64 will
automatically be
The alleged nickel-enrichment procedure can not be found in his patent
application. I my opinion this is also a problem.
Angela
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mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
Why would we want a technology based upon scarce ( expensive) substances
(Pd
D) when we can have one based on cheap and readily available ones (Ni H)?
For the next several years I think researchers should concentrate on Ni-H,
but I think it would be a good idea
Angela Kemmler angela.kemm...@gmx.de wrote:
The alleged nickel-enrichment procedure can not be found in his patent
application. I my opinion this is also a problem.
As I understand it, this would only be a problem if Rossi was aware of the
advantages of enrichment at the time he wrote that
http://www.scribd.com/doc/52869096/Steorn-B10-20110411
Sean - the chief pub crawler at Steorn seems to have heard the 'last call'
What's a CPC
2011/4/13 Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
*http://www.scribd.com/doc/52869096/Steorn-B10-20110411*http://www.scribd.com/doc/52869096/Steorn-B10-20110411
Sean – the chief pub crawler at Steorn seems to have heard the ‘last call’
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 6:51 PM, Esa Ruoho esaru...@gmail.com wrote:
What's a CPC
A Guinness sink hole.
T
Aw FFS..
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 2:06 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 6:51 PM, Esa Ruoho esaru...@gmail.com wrote:
What's a CPC
A Guinness sink hole.
T
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Tue, 12 Apr 2011 13:41:19 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
This roughly 0.8 MeV energy comes from the kinetic energy of the
electron, which is the same high value it had in the very small
deflated state
The kinetic energy of the electron in the deflated state comes
On Apr 12, 2011, at 3:22 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Tue, 12 Apr 2011 13:41:19
-0800:
Hi,
[snip]
This roughly 0.8 MeV energy comes from the kinetic energy of the
electron, which is the same high value it had in the very small
deflated state
The
I've updated http://lenr.qumbu.com/fake_rossi_ecat_frames_v317.php to
include a fake which was actually proposed back in February :
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg42228.html
Although not likely I rate it as NOT ELIMINATED by ANY of the
experiments or reports.
I rate this fake as preposterous. Has this person done any tests to prove
that it can be done in the first place?
If you include every half-baked notion that skeptics come up with, you can
easily prove that the earth is flat, evolution did not occur, and Newton's
Laws are wrong. You need to be a
Jones Beene accused someone here of pandering of Rossi. I am not sure if
that should be pandering to or pandering of but anyway, I suspect Jones
had me in mind when he wrote that. Let me remind people here of some of the
things I have said about Rossi, such as:
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Tue, 12 Apr 2011 13:33:29 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
This is the first time that I have noticed how the new Mills' reactor scheme
could be similar to the Rossi device, in two ways - either of which may end
up in court, eventually. Let's hope not. But as Apple has
The letter that Ms. Kemmler refers to in response to the European patent
examiner is interesting reading indeed. It seems to me that Mr. Rossi's
intellectual property position is really quite a muddle. I sincerely hope this
can be resolved in his favor. Like most on this list, I am hoping Rossi
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Tue, 12 Apr 2011 15:38:07 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
On Apr 12, 2011, at 3:22 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Tue, 12 Apr 2011 13:41:19
-0800:
Hi,
[snip]
This roughly 0.8 MeV energy comes from the kinetic energy of the
On Apr 12, 2011, at 3:22 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Tue, 12 Apr 2011 13:41:19
-0800:
Hi,
[snip]
This roughly 0.8 MeV energy comes from the kinetic energy of the
electron, which is the same high value it had in the very small
deflated state
The
Dear Robin,
The reason is first of all historical- for 21.85 years and 15 ICCFs we have
tried to explore, understand and make use of the palladium- deuterium
systems,first of all.
Scientifically these are OK, but it is a problem of principle is POSSIBLE
to use them as an energy source? A reliable
On Apr 12, 2011, at 8:53 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Tue, 12 Apr 2011 15:38:07
-0800:
Hi,
[snip]
On Apr 12, 2011, at 3:22 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Tue, 12 Apr 2011 13:41:19
-0800:
Hi,
[snip]
This
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