RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Rossi bets the farm on Ni62?

2011-05-15 Thread Mark Iverson
I would wager that the reason Mills hasn't got a commercial device, after 20 years and $60M, is because his theory is flawed... -Mark _ From: Peter Gluck [mailto:peter.gl...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 9:46 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Rossi

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Rossi bets the farm on Ni62?

2011-05-15 Thread Peter Gluck
The reason is, in my opinion, that is very difficult to achieve a CONTINUOUS generation of energy- see my paper http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2011/04/questions-preparing-swot-analysis-of-ni.html what conditions are necessary for a new source of energy. But I think this year (good for new

Re: [Vo]:Comet Coincidence?

2011-05-15 Thread Mauro Lacy
On 05/14/2011 09:37 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: From Mauro: ... Most probably, the reason is comets are charged bodies. The electric field of the comet interacts with the electric field of the Sun, and a CME occurs. The electric interaction is also the reason for

Re: [Vo]:Another view on superrotation

2011-05-15 Thread Mauro Lacy
On 05/14/2011 06:12 PM, David Jonsson wrote: Superrotation is shear flow on gas planets and stars and it requires an explanation since there appears to be no force or stress to drive them. Recently I came up with the following idea after having tried two others with limited success. Assume that

Re: [Vo]:Another view on superrotation

2011-05-15 Thread Mauro Lacy
On 05/14/2011 06:12 PM, David Jonsson wrote: Superrotation is shear flow on gas planets and stars and it requires an explanation since there appears to be no force or stress to drive them. Recently I came up with the following idea after having tried two others with limited success. Assume that

[Vo]:asking my friends

2011-05-15 Thread Peter Gluck
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Re: [Vo]:asking my friends

2011-05-15 Thread Terry Blanton
What an eclectic collection! Did you compile them yourself or were some recommended to you? T

RE: [Vo]:asking my friends

2011-05-15 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Terry to Peter: What an eclectic collection! Did you compile them yourself or were some recommended to you? I got sidetracked at the start ... which brought into focus the paradigm shift of group mind - in the context of the power of the internet to instantly

Re: [Vo]:asking my friends

2011-05-15 Thread Peter Gluck
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Re: [Vo]:asking my friends

2011-05-15 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Jones, You are discussing about a rich area of subjects- the newsletter is one of the components of the blog, formerly it was a part of a newsletter INFO KAPPA that was property of UPC ROMANIA (in the US Liberty Global)- an Internet Service Provider. In my editorials I have developed my

RE: [Vo]:asking my friends

2011-05-15 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Jone sez: ... The immensity of this paradigm shift in group-mind is that even though 98% of the World has not yet caught onto what is happening in this field... I think you are being too kind! A present I suspect the percentage is probably closer to around 99.%. Still, there is every

RE: [Vo]:asking my friends

2011-05-15 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Peter, Sunday's Sermon Following up on Mr. Beene's comment, I have often subscribed to a belief that the development of the Internet may very well be ushering in the first stages of a new sentient species that may soon dominate our planet within a mere couple of thousand years, a species known

[Vo]:eCAT details -- time to adjust power

2011-05-15 Thread Alan Fletcher
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=473cpage=10#comment-39113 Bjorn Genborg May 15th, 2011 at 6:23 AM Mr. Rossi, Regarding controlling capabilities (regulating) of your device; How dynamic can the power production be adjusted? For example, if a E-cat is in operation, producing 2,5

[Vo]:Activated graphite

2011-05-15 Thread Axil Axil
[quote] Part2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oD81qF-cIIcNR=1 Now, this is interesting: The guy (a patent attorney) asks why in the patent there is no mention of the catalyst, while he now states that there is a catalyst. The guy next points out that IF there is a catalyst and the catalyst is

[Vo]:Two COVERS, Two Articles on FUSION ... Ross/eCATi? Nope!

2011-05-15 Thread Alan Fletcher
Cover: http://www.scientificamerican.com/media/cover/cover_2011-05.jpg http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=radical-energy-solutions (subscription or paper copy needed) Cover: https://subscribe.hearstmags.com/circulation/popularmechanics/images/pop_cvr-reg.jpg

[Vo]: Why did the engineer Rossi beat all the scientists? WAS: Rossi bets the farm on Ni62?

2011-05-15 Thread Mark Iverson
I renamed this thread cuz I'd like to hear opinions as to WHY an engineer succeeded where ALL the scientists failed in optimizing the excess heat and controllability of whatever this reaction is??? In our conversation about Mills/BLP, Peter wrote: His theory is OK, verified by experiment.

Re: [Vo]:Activated graphite

2011-05-15 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2011-05-15 21:44, Axil Axil wrote: [...] Levi reply: Please note that he is professor Sergio Focardi, not Levi. Cheers, S.A.

[Vo]:All energy is or was free!

2011-05-15 Thread Wm. Scott Smith
How is (home-based) Solar Energy not free??? The real question is whether it shall remain so: Some of us are already paying for the water we pump out of our own land, (and put back via the drainfield in our septic system which recycles the water so that it does not even pollute the nearby

Re: [Vo]:Comet Coincidence?

2011-05-15 Thread mixent
In reply to Mauro Lacy's message of Sat, 14 May 2011 15:49:13 -0300: Hi, [snip] Most probably, the reason is comets are charged bodies. The electric field of the comet interacts with the electric field of the Sun, and a CME occurs. The electric interaction is also the reason for cometary

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Rossi bets the farm on Ni62?

2011-05-15 Thread mixent
In reply to Peter Gluck's message of Sat, 14 May 2011 13:23:57 +0300: Hi Peter, [snip] please source, Robin! Thanks- I was referring to the practical results I'm not sure what you want the source of. As I said, the 200 times is only a rough average because it varies from one experiment to the

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Rossi bets the farm on Ni62?

2011-05-15 Thread mixent
In reply to Peter Gluck's message of Sun, 15 May 2011 07:45:57 +0300: Hi, [snip] Perhaps the best person to discuss your hydrino ideas is Randy Mills himself. This is science, not religion, so orthodoxia and heterodoxies can discuss freely and peacefully- based on experimental facts. I think it

Re: [Vo]: Why did the engineer Rossi beat all the scientists? WAS: Rossi bets the farm on Ni62?

2011-05-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.net wrote: I renamed this thread cuz I'd like to hear opinions as to WHY an engineer succeeded where ALL the scientists failed in optimizing the excess heat and controllability of whatever this reaction is??? Edisonian vs

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Rossi bets the farm on Ni62?

2011-05-15 Thread mixent
In reply to mix...@bigpond.com's message of Mon, 16 May 2011 07:38:22 +1000: Hi, [snip] I'm not sure what you want the source of. As I said, the 200 times is only a rough average because it varies from one experiment to the next (read any of Mills' experimental papers). The 255 keV is just the

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Rossi bets the farm on Ni62?

2011-05-15 Thread mixent
In reply to mix...@bigpond.com's message of Mon, 16 May 2011 07:38:22 +1000: Hi, Oops, clicked on wrong button in spell checker! That should have been:- (The square of the fine structure constant times the mass energy of the electron is exactly equal to 1 Hartree). Regards, Robin van Spaandonk

[Vo]:hydrogen pressure pulsation

2011-05-15 Thread Axil Axil
By pulsating the hydrogen pressure in the Rossi reaction vessel, Rossi is varying the size of the negative hydrogen ions (in terms of atom count of hydrogen atoms confined within the ion) he produces oscillating from small to/from large. The number of protons produced when the H- ion is

RE: [Vo]: Why did the engineer Rossi beat all the scientists? WAS: Rossi bets the farm on Ni62?

2011-05-15 Thread Jones Beene
Mark, The one remaining possibility which could explain how the brilliant scientist Mills' is being outflanked and outscored - thoroughly, and by a lowly engineer working on a few percent of his budget, could relate to that mysterious product: the CIHT, mentioned by Peter. It could be his last

Re: [Vo]:Comet Coincidence?

2011-05-15 Thread Mauro Lacy
On 05/15/2011 06:14 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Mauro Lacy's message of Sat, 14 May 2011 15:49:13 -0300: Hi, [snip] Most probably, the reason is comets are charged bodies. The electric field of the comet interacts with the electric field of the Sun, and a CME occurs. The

Re: [Vo]:Comet Coincidence?

2011-05-15 Thread Horace Heffner
On May 13, 2011, at 5:55 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: I don't believe in them. I have seen this happen more than once in SOHO videos. A coronal mass ejection corresponds with a comet collision: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/05/13/stunning-video-comet- collides-sun/ T Hi Terry, It

Re: [Vo]: Why did the engineer Rossi beat all the scientists? WAS: Rossi bets the farm on Ni62?

2011-05-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: The one remaining possibility which could explain how the brilliant scientist Mills’ is being outflanked and outscored – thoroughly, and by a lowly engineer working on a few percent of his budget, could relate to that

Re: [Vo]:hydrogen pressure pulsation

2011-05-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: By pulsating the hydrogen pressure in the Rossi reaction vessel, Rossi is varying the size of the negative hydrogen ions (in terms of atom count of hydrogen atoms confined within the ion) he produces oscillating from small

Re: [Vo]:hydrogen pressure pulsation

2011-05-15 Thread Axil Axil
Mechanically I believe. I remember reading that a Rossi coworker said that pulsing hydrogen pressure works best. On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: By pulsating the hydrogen pressure

Re: [Vo]:Comet Coincidence?

2011-05-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote: Sun impacting asteroids or comets can be expected to cause coronal mass injection just from their gravitationally induced kinetic energy. Good to hear from you, Horace. Indeed, your explanation is a possibility;

[Vo]:Temperature of the metal lattice

2011-05-15 Thread Axil Axil
The temperature of the metal lattice is a measure of kinetic energy between its confined nickel atoms and directly proportional to the compressive power applied to the negative hydride ions entrapped in the lattice defects by hydride compression. As the temperature of the nickel powder

[Vo]:Rossi beat all the scientists because . . .

2011-05-15 Thread Wm. Scott Smith
How Engineer Rossi May be Beating the Scientists Most so-called scientists are advanced technicians. Even the more creative ones tend to find a way forward using logic. Logic is a good partner, but a bad master. Logic locks you into your box, the box that contains everything you have already

Re: [Vo]:hydrogen pressure pulsation

2011-05-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Mechanically I believe. I remember reading that a Rossi coworker said that pulsing hydrogen pressure works best. Which device in all the tests we have seen provides a mechanical pulse? T

Re: [Vo]:Comet Coincidence?

2011-05-15 Thread Horace Heffner
True to form, I made a silly typo. I wrote: Sun impacting asteroids or comets can be expected to cause coronal mass injection just from their gravitationally induced kinetic energy. I should have said: Sun impacting asteroids or comets can be expected to cause coronal mass *ejections*

[Vo]:Rossi may be birthing unrelated speculation . . .

2011-05-15 Thread Wm. Scott Smith
Just the discussion of a fairly-hidden technology could have us unwittingly inventing something entirely new. From: jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:asking my friends Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 09:29:22 -0700 -Original Message- From: Terry to

Re: [Vo]:hydrogen pressure pulsation

2011-05-15 Thread Axil Axil
From the patent: A solenoid valve 4 adjusts the pressure under which hydrogen 5 is introduced into the metal tube. Both the temperature generated by the electric resistance or resistor and the hydrogen injection pressure can be easily adjusted either to constant or pulsating values. On Sun,

RE: [Vo]: Why did the engineer Rossi beat all the scientists? WAS: Rossi bets the farm on Ni62?

2011-05-15 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Terry Blanton So, how is he stripping he hydrogen of its electrons? How do you know he is not adding, rather than stripping :) I have researched the CIHT and find no IP on it on the web. I have not seen any either. BTW what Mills calls hydrino-hydride is

Re: [Vo]:hydrogen pressure pulsation

2011-05-15 Thread Axil Axil
If the control box can synchronize both the pulsation of the temperature and the pressure, an accurate control mechanism may thus be provided. The H- ions produced by increased temperature and/or electric input could be increased in size by the increase in pressure. Control of the reaction may

Re: [Vo]: Why did the engineer Rossi beat all the scientists? WAS: Rossi bets the farm on Ni62?

2011-05-15 Thread Axil Axil
What Mills has done is load H- ions into a nickel lattice as a startup activity. A shock starts the heat production chain reaction when the nickel lattice is perturbed and kinetic energy is added. This shock compresses the H- into nuclear reformation. What Rossi has done is load H- ions into

Re: [Vo]:Comet Coincidence?

2011-05-15 Thread Horace Heffner
On May 13, 2011, at 5:55 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: I don't believe in them. I have seen this happen more than once in SOHO videos. A coronal mass ejection corresponds with a comet collision: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/05/13/stunning-video-comet- collides-sun/ T If the earth

Re: [Vo]: Why did the engineer Rossi beat all the scientists? WAS: Rossi bets the farm on Ni62?

2011-05-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton So, how is he stripping he hydrogen of its electrons? How do you know he is not adding, rather than stripping :) Well, most fuel cells strip the electrons and the proton

Re: [Vo]: Why did the engineer Rossi beat all the scientists? WAS: Rossi bets the farm on Ni62?

2011-05-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: What Mills has done is load H- ions into a nickel lattice as a startup activity. A shock starts the heat production chain reaction when the nickel lattice is perturbed and kinetic energy is added. This shock compresses the H-

Re: [Vo]:hydrogen pressure pulsation

2011-05-15 Thread Terry Blanton
That's talking about the pressure regulator from the source tank. AR removes the H2 source before beginning the reaction. I see no evidence of any pulsing mechanism other than PT = PT with a variation on T. Thermal pulsing. Too slow, IMO. T

Re: [Vo]:Comet Coincidence?

2011-05-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote: The typical comet has more than enough kinetic energy to generate the average CME. Geeze, this would imply that I could use a directed mass at the sun as a weapon. Indirect Hammer of God. One helluva EMP-type

Re: [Vo]:hydrogen pressure pulsation

2011-05-15 Thread Axil Axil
ahuggins January 15th, 2011 at 4:34 AMhttp://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=360cpage=1#comment-19110 We hear a pulsating sound in the video of the operating catalyzer. What is causing the sound? Rossi did not answer this question. I wonder why? On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 7:29 PM,

Re: [Vo]:hydrogen pressure pulsation

2011-05-15 Thread Axil Axil
Anther question of Rossi... *Bertil Karlsson: *Is the reaction pulsating or continuous? *Rossi:* Substantially continuous Does Substantially continuous means constanly changing(pulsing) around a constant average? On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Vo]:hydrogen pressure pulsation

2011-05-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: ahuggins January 15th, 2011 at 4:34 AM We hear a pulsating sound in the video of the operating catalyzer. What is causing the sound? It's the freaking water pump. Don't you pay attention?

Re: [Vo]:hydrogen pressure pulsation

2011-05-15 Thread Axil Axil
Thanks... I stand corrected. The reactor was not connected to the hydrogen source. Could it be that over the years, Rossi is feeling around for the best way to control his reaction, and that pulsing pressure item got into the patent at an earlier time? Let be adjust, pulse pressure is one

Re: [Vo]:hydrogen pressure pulsation

2011-05-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks... I stand corrected. The reactor was not connected to the hydrogen source. Could it be that over the years, Rossi is feeling around for the best way to control his reaction, and that pulsing pressure item got into

Re: [Vo]:Comet Coincidence?

2011-05-15 Thread Horace Heffner
On May 15, 2011, at 3:32 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote: The typical comet has more than enough kinetic energy to generate the average CME. Geeze, this would imply that I could use a directed mass at the sun as a

[Vo]:Yoshiaki Arata's experiment shows the Rossi process mechanism.

2011-05-15 Thread Axil Axil
http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/ArataYdevelopmena.pdf The experiments of Yoshiaki Arata and Yue Chang Zhang, Piantelli, and Rossi all confirm the nuclear nature of negative hydrogen ion (H-) reactions in transitions metals. There is a common thread here. For example in the experiment

Re: [Vo]:Yoshiaki Arata's experiment shows the Rossi process mechanism.

2011-05-15 Thread Axil Axil
The experiments of Yoshiaki Arata and Yue Chang Zhang show that there is nothing important provided by the enrichment of the nickel isotope Ni62 to the H- reaction. On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/ArataYdevelopmena.pdf

Re: [Vo]:hydrogen pressure pulsation

2011-05-15 Thread francis
On Sun, 15 May 2011 16:29: terry wrote [snip]I see no evidence of any pulsing mechanism other than PT = PT with a variation on T. Thermal pulsing. Too slow, IMO.[snip] Terry, There is still possible magnetostriction of the powder from the pulse to the thermal strip. Fran Terry

Re: [Vo]: Why did the engineer Rossi beat all the scientists? WAS: Rossi bets the farm on Ni62?

2011-05-15 Thread mixent
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Sun, 15 May 2011 19:24:54 -0400: Hi, [snip] I think it is more likely that he is using the spillover catalyst effect to strip electrons which provide work and recombine when the H+ hydride ions pass through the membrane to be oxidized. Now maybe the free

Re: [Vo]:Comet Coincidence?

2011-05-15 Thread mixent
In reply to Mauro Lacy's message of Sun, 15 May 2011 19:02:45 -0300: Hi, [snip] On 05/15/2011 06:14 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Mauro Lacy's message of Sat, 14 May 2011 15:49:13 -0300: Hi, [snip] Most probably, the reason is comets are charged bodies. The electric field

Re: [Vo]:Comet Coincidence?

2011-05-15 Thread mixent
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Sun, 15 May 2011 18:28:50 -0400: Hi, [snip] However, I tend toward Spaandonk's explanation, ie the hydrogen from the comet's water is reacting with the corona. ...actually, I don't think it's the Hydrogen from the water that's reacting. More likely the

Re: [Vo]:Comet Coincidence?

2011-05-15 Thread mixent
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Sun, 15 May 2011 19:32:32 -0400: Hi, [snip] On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote: The typical comet has more than enough kinetic energy to generate the average CME. Geeze, this would imply that I could use a

Re: [Vo]:Yoshiaki Arata's experiment shows the Rossi process mechanism.

2011-05-15 Thread Peter Gluck
Probably I don't remember well- but has Arata worked with hydrogen too- not only deuterium? Peter On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 4:22 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: The experiments of Yoshiaki Arata and Yue Chang Zhang show that there is nothing important provided by the enrichment of the

Re: [Vo]:Yoshiaki Arata's experiment shows the Rossi process mechanism.

2011-05-15 Thread Axil Axil
I provided the link to the experiment at the top of the first post. All the info is there. Kind Regards Axil On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 12:20 AM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: Probably I don't remember well- but has Arata worked with hydrogen too- not only deuterium? Peter On

Re: [Vo]:Yoshiaki Arata's experiment shows the Rossi process mechanism.

2011-05-15 Thread Peter Gluck
Thank you- but pycno-hydrogen was used only for comparison with pycno-deuterium and never works (no fusion). By the way, what is your impression about the many Arata style experiments? How reliable are they as intensity, reproducibility etc. ? I think a positive nanoeffect is fighting with the

Re: [Vo]:Yoshiaki Arata's experiment shows the Rossi process mechanism.

2011-05-15 Thread Axil Axil
I think the distinction involves the fermion-boson nature of the negative hydrogen ion between deuterium and protium. Because protium can form a clustered negative hydrogen ion as a fermion, the ion can mimic the behavior of the electron. Since deuterium can only form a negative hydrogen ion

Re: [Vo]:Rossi beat all the scientists because . . .

2011-05-15 Thread Andrea Selva
But, over all, is he an 'engineer' ?

Re: [Vo]:Self Running Free Energy

2011-05-15 Thread Harry Veeder
Ok, I'll wait for the replications. It seems CLaNZer is building one and Skycollection has something similiar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdxMbCU7O8c Harry From: John Berry aethe...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, May 13, 2011 7:22:05 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Self Running Free