Re: [Vo]:Rossi uses sputtering for enrichment

2011-05-25 Thread Roarty, Francis X
I think Moller was enjoying same benefit of Soret enrichment from sputtering with MAHG as Rossi. We recently learned Rossi also sputters Ni powder inside of his reactor walls. Rossi appears to keep gain low in E-cat, We speculate this preserves the Casimir geometry of pits on surface

[Vo]:Rossi

2011-05-25 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Hoyt, It is hard to stop speculating when there are so many clues and common denominators circulating with respect to the work of Rossi and other researchers. Fran

[Vo]:Tanis Found

2011-05-25 Thread Terry Blanton
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-13522957 Egyptian pyramids found by infra-red satellite images By Frances Cronin BBC News The infrared image on the right reveals the ancient city streets of Tanis near modern-day San El Hagar. Seventeen lost pyramids are among the buildings identified in a new

[Vo]:Spirit Declared Dead

2011-05-25 Thread Terry Blanton
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1105/24spirit/ NASA closes book on Spirit rover's historic mission BY STEPHEN CLARK SPACEFLIGHT NOW Posted: May 24, 2011 NASA's immobilized, crippled Spirit rover likely succumbed to cold temperatures during the last Martian winter, and officials will cease

Re: [Vo]:Rossi: NO MORE TESTS and other stuff

2011-05-25 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Alessandro Casali May 25th, 2011 at 4:43 AM Dear Mr. Rossi, Thanks in advance for your patience, i have a simple question that i’m sure you can clarify. You have recently stated that each signle e-cat (in the 1 MW Greek plant) will produce 2.5 kW so how can you reach 1 MW with only 300

Re: [Vo]:Rossi: NO MORE TESTS and other stuff

2011-05-25 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2011-05-25 19:37, Alan J Fletcher wrote: Dear Mr Alessandre Casali: you are right, 300 is not the exact number, is an order of magnitude. Actually, the configuration of the 1 MW plant is complex, and confidential. I can’t give details: of course you are right: 2,5 x 300 makes 750. We will

Re: [Vo]:Joshua Cude at it, part 2

2011-05-25 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Ok, Joshua Cude IS aware of Abd's posts. Good. ... From Abd I have not read the rest of his [Cude's] trash. I have actual research to do. In my view such pithy responses tend to reveal petulant behavior and a little bit of immaturity too. Keep in mind, Abd, several days ago you essentially

RE: [Vo]: Why are the electric and magnetic fields perpendicular?

2011-05-25 Thread Mark Iverson
You're right Terry, I don't like your answer! And I don't think any of the other explanations answered the question adequately... From my purely physical model, it would be a natural cause-effect relationship due to a polarizable vacuum... i.e., the electric and magnetic fields of mainstream

Re: [Vo]: Why are the electric and magnetic fields perpendicular?

2011-05-25 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.net wrote: I think any theory should have to explain the simple observations first before delving down into more difficult and esoteric aspects of physics. You sound more like a philosopher now. I know it's cliché but, the more

Re: [Vo]:Joshua Cude at it, part 2

2011-05-25 Thread Rich Murray
Thanks for: ... Nevertheless, In my view you may not have adequately rebuttaled the bulk of Joshua's rebuttals in an honorable fashion Let's encourage non ad hominem, civil, polite, gracious, patient, evidence and detail oriented, genteel, lightly humorous, collaborative communication -- one

RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My essay Buying the E-cat in the sack?

2011-05-25 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Peter, Regarding cheapness : It appears the enrichment Rossi mentions is a free side effect of sputtering [Soret effect] that only segregates the isotopes by a matter of centimeters but since this places the heavier isotopes closer to the cold reactor wall and each other it may be enough to

Re: [Vo]:My essay Buying the E-cat in the sack?

2011-05-25 Thread Alan J Fletcher
SCALE-UP- the problem was already shown at the first virtue; modular scale-up is not genuine scale up., IMHO. It has to be more than addition of many small units. Question- why it was made a scale down after the first two experiments? The scale down was for controlability. The February 130kW

Re: [Vo]:My essay Buying the E-cat in the sack?

2011-05-25 Thread Peter Gluck
Thank you! But we have not seen much of these features during the experiments. Let's hope it is OK. Peter On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:06 PM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: *SCALE-UP- *the problem was already shown at the first virtue; modular scale-up is not genuine scale up., IMHO. It

Re: [Vo]:My essay Buying the E-cat in the sack?

2011-05-25 Thread Alan J Fletcher
HARD CURRENCY ENERGY- how the thermal energy of the active core can be converted in electric energy in an economical way? I don't think that's going to (or needs to) happen any time soon --- it only delivers 500C (limited by the nickel powder degrading?) at 50 bar. Electrical conversion

Re: [Vo]:My essay Buying the E-cat in the sack?

2011-05-25 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 01:24 PM 5/25/2011, you wrote: HARD CURRENCY ENERGY- how the thermal energy of the active core can be converted in electric energy in an economical way? I don't think that's going to (or needs to) happen any time soon --- it only delivers 500C (limited by the nickel powder degrading?) at 50

Re: [Vo]:My essay Buying the E-cat in the sack?

2011-05-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alan J Fletcher wrote: I don't think that's going to (or needs to) happen any time soon --- it only delivers 500C (limited by the nickel powder degrading?) at 50 bar. Electrical conversion efficiency at that level is less than 20% (??) -- times the 6x factor is barely over unity. It is way

Re: [Vo]: Why are the electric and magnetic fields perpendicular?

2011-05-25 Thread Joshua Cude
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.net wrote: With all the sophistication and accuracy to umpteen decimal places in atomic physics/QM, how come we can't explain WHY they're perpendicular! I think any theory should have to explain the simple observations first

Re: [Vo]:Joshua Cude at it

2011-05-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Unlike Abd, I did not propose to taken on Cude, and I still do not. I will say, however, that his views seem to boil down to an assertion that conventional instruments and techniques do not work. Calorimetry and x-ray film do not work. Replications by hundreds of researchers mean nothing. The

[Vo]:A question about how e-Cats manage to self-sustain

2011-05-25 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
There is an aspect to Rossi's e-cat thermal generation process that remains fuzzy to me. It's my understanding that Rossi has to push the temperature of his e-Cat cores up into the neighborhood of 500C via an external heating process before the mysterious Rossi thermal reaction takes over. That

RE: [Vo]: Why are the electric and magnetic fields perpendicular?

2011-05-25 Thread Mark Iverson
RE: sounding like a philosopher... Yep, since I'm an INTP personality type, I tend to focus on the forest... RE: our models... I guess what prompted my intial question to the Collective (re; perpendicular E and B fields) was that, although we do have some good models, they were done over

Re: [Vo]:My essay Buying the E-cat in the sack?

2011-05-25 Thread Axil Axil
It is time to repeat this point again. Rossi does not need to use water to steam as a power transfer mechanism because steam implies high pressure. And high pressure is expensive. A molten salt or liquid metal coolant produced at ambient pressure can cool the Rossi reactor. These coolants

Re: [Vo]: Why are the electric and magnetic fields perpendicular?

2011-05-25 Thread mixent
In reply to Joshua Cude's message of Wed, 25 May 2011 16:08:10 -0500: Hi, [snip] What do mean by we? It's not from observing e-m waves that we know the fields are perpendicular. It follows from Maxwell's equations, which predict the waves. So, certainly some people can explain in arbitrary detail

Re: [Vo]:A question about how e-Cats manage to self-sustain

2011-05-25 Thread mixent
In reply to OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson's message of Wed, 25 May 2011 16:37:04 -0500: Hi, [snip] Perhaps I've misunderstood a fundamental aspect concerning how excess energy is supposed to be extracted from Rossi's e-cats. Is it rather the situation where once 500 C is reached (by external

Re: [Vo]:My essay Buying the E-cat in the sack?

2011-05-25 Thread mixent
In reply to Alan J Fletcher's message of Wed, 25 May 2011 13:06:10 -0700: Hi, [snip] Rossi implies that the output is constantly monitored and automatically adjusted. He guarantees a 6x amplification, but he probably has plenty of 'amplification' in reserve. [snip] I'm beginning to wonder about

Re: [Vo]:My essay Buying the E-cat in the sack?

2011-05-25 Thread mixent
In reply to Alan J Fletcher's message of Wed, 25 May 2011 13:59:30 -0700: Hi, [snip] At 01:24 PM 5/25/2011, you wrote: HARD CURRENCY ENERGY- how the thermal energy of the active core can be converted in electric energy in an economical way? I don't think that's going to (or needs to) happen

Re: [Vo]: Why are the electric and magnetic fields perpendicular?

2011-05-25 Thread John Berry
Ok, you need to consider my answer if you want to understand this. You are assuming that a thing called a magnetic field really exists and this is the reason for your problem. Consider first how to interact with of detect magnetic fields, first take the Neutron, what reaction does it have to a

Re: [Vo]: Why are the electric and magnetic fields perpendicular?

2011-05-25 Thread Joshua Cude
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 4:50 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Joshua Cude's message of Wed, 25 May 2011 16:08:10 -0500: Hi, [snip] What do mean by we? It's not from observing e-m waves that we know the fields are perpendicular. It follows from Maxwell's equations, which predict

Re: [Vo]:My essay Buying the E-cat in the sack?

2011-05-25 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 03:31 PM 5/25/2011, you wrote: In reply to Alan J Fletcher's message of Wed, 25 May 2011 13:59:30 -0700: Hi, [snip] At 01:24 PM 5/25/2011, you wrote: HARD CURRENCY ENERGY- how the thermal energy of the active core can be converted in electric energy in an economical way? I'm probably too

Re: [Vo]:Joshua Cude at it

2011-05-25 Thread Joshua Cude
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: I will say, however, that his views seem to boil down to an assertion that conventional instruments and techniques do not work. Wrong. I have never asserted that, and I do not believe it. I will assert that tools do not

Re: [Vo]: Why are the electric and magnetic fields perpendicular?

2011-05-25 Thread mixent
In reply to Joshua Cude's message of Wed, 25 May 2011 17:54:32 -0500: Hi, [snip] Maxwell's equations were developed to describe laboratory electricity and magnetism experiments. ...from which the peculiar perpendicular nature of the phenomenon was already evident. The resulting equations then

Re: [Vo]:Joshua Cude at it

2011-05-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote: I will say, however, that his views seem to boil down to an assertion that conventional instruments and techniques do not work. Wrong. I have never asserted that, and I do not believe it. I will assert that tools do not make a carpenter, and that

RE: [Vo]: Why are the electric and magnetic fields perpendicular?

2011-05-25 Thread Mark Iverson
Robin beat me to the punch... I was changing spark-plugs and serpentine belts on my car! Robin hits the nail on the head... Anything mathematical is the MODEL, and is supposed to reflect physical reality. My question was about the physical world -- what I was asking got was a rational,

RE: [Vo]: Why are the electric and magnetic fields perpendicular?

2011-05-25 Thread Mark Iverson
John: Let me ask a few questions so I can better understand what you're proposing... What is your interpretation of the magnetic moment present in all elementary particles where electrical currents don't even come into play? Of course atoms can be affected by a magnetic field... this is the

Re: [Vo]: Why are the electric and magnetic fields perpendicular?

2011-05-25 Thread Charles Hope
How about giving a few examples of the sort of answer you'd find satisfactory? Sent from my iPhone. On May 25, 2011, at 20:33, Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Robin beat me to the punch... I was changing spark-plugs and serpentine belts on my car! Robin hits the nail on the

RE: [Vo]:A question about how e-Cats manage to self-sustain

2011-05-25 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Thanks for your input, Robin I wouldn't mind additional commentary from the collective. ;-) Are there differing views opinions on this matter? Once again, I post my original questions [slightly reedited for clarification]: Perhaps I've misunderstood a fundamental aspect concerning how

Re: [Vo]:Joshua Cude at it, part 2

2011-05-25 Thread Charles Hope
What a profound statement. Thank you! Sent from my iPhone. On May 25, 2011, at 15:44, Rich Murray rmfor...@gmail.com wrote: Let's encourage non ad hominem, civil, polite, gracious, patient, evidence and detail oriented, genteel, lightly humorous, collaborative communication -- one of the

[Vo]:New Stremmenos Paper on JNP

2011-05-25 Thread Alan J Fletcher
A detailed Qualitative Approach to the Cold Fusion Nuclear Reactions of H/Ni http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=497

Re: [Vo]:New Stremmenos Paper on JNP -- sustaining mode

2011-05-25 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 05:55 PM 5/25/2011, you wrote: A detailed Qualitative Approach to the Cold Fusion Nuclear Reactions of H/Ni http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=497 Fig 3 -- supposedly based on measurements -- shows the results when a single pulse of input power is applied:

Re: [Vo]:New Stremmenos Paper on JNP -- sustaining mode

2011-05-25 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 06:10 PM 5/25/2011, you wrote: At 05:55 PM 5/25/2011, you wrote: A detailed Qualitative Approach to the Cold Fusion Nuclear Reactions of H/Ni http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=497 Fig 3 -- supposedly based on measurements -- shows the results when a single pulse of input power

[Vo]:Rossi and Mills

2011-05-25 Thread Axil Axil
Recently, I was doing a survey of papers addressing the potassium/carbon formation of Rydburg matter; and one paper turned up from blacklight that got me thinking. The thermally reversible hydrino catalysts system as a new power source.

Re: [Vo]: Why are the electric and magnetic fields perpendicular?

2011-05-25 Thread John Berry
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.netwrote: John: Let me ask a few questions so I can better understand what you're proposing... What is your interpretation of the magnetic moment present in all elementary particles where electrical currents don't even come

Re: [Vo]:New Stremmenos Paper on JNP -- sustaining mode

2011-05-25 Thread Axil Axil
This paper may come closer to explaining what goes on in the Piantelli reaction, than it does for the Rossi reaction. I say that it is impossible (unthinkable – it just cannot be) to create light elements from the fission of nickel or copper. On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Alan J Fletcher

[Vo]:N-Rays / was :Joshua Cude at it

2011-05-25 Thread Harry Veeder
Written in 1993, the author investigates the debunking of N-Rays because he sees similarities with the tatics employed to debunk cold fusion and homeopathy. An interesting read! Harry The Theatre of the Blind: Starring a Promethean Prankster, a Phoney Phenomenon, a Prism, a Pocket, and a

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Mills

2011-05-25 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Is it possible that Mills is seeing the same reaction that Rossi sees and has mistakenly invented the “hydrino atom” mechanism to explain it? Do you not read anything Jones Beene writes? Is Rydburg matter loaded into the

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Mills

2011-05-25 Thread Axil Axil
So sorry, please excuse me. Rydberg was misspelled in my spell checker. It’s now corrected and won't be misspelled again. On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:15 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Is it possible that

Re: [Vo]:A question about how e-Cats manage to self-sustain

2011-05-25 Thread Axil Axil
Reactivity is directly related to the tendency of the Rossi reactor core to change power level: if reactivity is positive, the power level tends to increase; if it is negative, the power tends to decrease; if it is zero, the power tends to remain stable. The reactivity of the reactor may be

[Vo]:Rossi and Mills

2011-05-25 Thread francis
Axil, IMHO, yes Mills and Rossi are seeing the same effect and are both wrong - Jan Naudts is the only one who got it right when he proposed the hydrogen atoms are actually relativistic. decreasing energy density for Casimir geometry is a big clue because it mirrors relativistic effects for

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My essay Buying the E-cat in the sack?

2011-05-25 Thread Peter Gluck
Thanks! Perhaps not evrything that Rossi says is absolutely true. Was sputtering used for isotopic enrichment- actually segregation? Goes it to the level of individual atoms? I don't buy the idea of catalysis- it has be more probable some emhanced nanometric effect. Peter On Wed, May 25, 2011 at

Re: [Vo]:Joshua Cude at it, part 2

2011-05-25 Thread Rich Murray
yer welcome, sonny... On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 5:54 PM, Charles Hope lookslikeiwasri...@gmail.com wrote: What a profound statement. Thank you! Sent from my iPhone. On May 25, 2011, at 15:44, Rich Murray rmfor...@gmail.com wrote: Let's encourage non ad hominem, civil, polite, gracious,

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Mills

2011-05-25 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Wed, 25 May 2011 21:18:50 -0400: Hi, [snip] Is it possible that Mills is seeing the same reaction that Rossi sees and has mistakenly invented the “hydrino atom” mechanism to explain it? [snip] Mills developed the theory first, then went looking for experimental

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Mills

2011-05-25 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Wed, 25 May 2011 21:18:50 -0400: Hi, [snip] Could the Rossi process just be the Mills process extended to operate on a continuous semi-annual basis? [snip] That what I proposed about a month ago. :) Regards, Robin van Spaandonk

Re: [Vo]:New Stremmenos Paper on JNP -- sustaining mode

2011-05-25 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Wed, 25 May 2011 21:33:26 -0400: Hi, [snip] I say that it is impossible (unthinkable – it just cannot be) to create light elements from the fission of nickel or copper. [snip] What's impossible about: 4H + Ni60 = 2 S32 + 16.7 MeV ? (Note that while fissioning