[Vo]:INFORMAVORE's SUNDAY No 458

2011-06-05 Thread Peter Gluck
My Dear Friends, After a rather peaceful week ,I have published the newest issue- http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2011/06/informavores-sunday-no-458.html of my newsletter. You can discover some essential information there. About how the world (matter, life, thinking) works, This leads me to

Re: [Vo]:Joshua Cude and a repeated misrepresentation, patents, and a discussion of the chimera of cold fusion

2011-06-05 Thread Joshua Cude
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: In the years before August 8, 1908, the Wrights often flew before large crowds of people in Dayton, OH, including leading citizens who signed affidavits saying they had seen the flights. The longest flight was 24 miles in

Re: [Vo]:Joshua Cude and a repeated misrepresentation, patents, and a discussion of the chimera of cold fusion

2011-06-05 Thread Joshua Cude
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: Rothwell The data clearly shows that some cells produce heat after death, and other do not. What does not make sense here is your demand that all cells do this. Cude It's not a demand. It's an identification of an

Re: [Vo]:How Joshua Cude misrepresents arguments

2011-06-05 Thread Joshua Cude
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: One problem I have with those results. When the current shuts off, the heat dies immediately. It seems implausible that the deuterium would diffuse out of the Pd that quickly. I would expect a more gradual decline.

Re: [Vo]:Joshua Cude and a repeated misrepresentation, patents, and a discussion of the chimera of cold fusion

2011-06-05 Thread Peter Gluck
Joshua, based on our constructive discussions re testing the E-cat I have sent the sketch of a protiocol for this experiment to Vortex.but you have not noticed it and have not commented it any way- even not I ma not interested more Because I think such experiments are important- here it is again.

Re: [Vo]:Joshua Cude and a repeated misrepresentation, patents, and a discussion of the chimera of cold fusion

2011-06-05 Thread Joshua Cude
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: Joshua, based on our constructive discussions re testing the E-cat I have sent the sketch of a protiocol for this experiment to Vortex.but you have not noticed it and have not commented it any way- even not I ma not

[Vo]:The Rossi device is not a heat pump

2011-06-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote: 2 - I think the impact would be far more dramatic without any input, regardless of how carefully it's measured. As I've said, this not only makes the effect more obvious, but in practice, a device that needs input is just a slightly improved heat

Re: [Vo]:Joshua Cude and a repeated misrepresentation, patents, and a discussion of the chimera of cold fusion

2011-06-05 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Joshua, OK, I see our modes of thinking are not compatible. I cannot conceive such experiments without measurements, I think the large container is a bad idea and anti-technical, and I believe far analogies are not good in real problem solving. But otherwise I have to thank you for

[Vo]:nice from germany

2011-06-05 Thread fznidarsic
http://www.matrixwissen.de/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=358%3Afrank-znidarsic-cold-fusion-researchcatid=113%3Afreie-energieItemid=98lang=en

Re: [Vo]:The Rossi device is not a heat pump

2011-06-05 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: No cold fusion device has ever produced a cold area. None of them is a heat pump. With exception of the hearts of the skeptics. :-) T

RE: [Vo]:The Rossi device is not a heat pump

2011-06-05 Thread Jones Beene
From: Jed Rothwell No cold fusion device has ever produced a cold area. None of them is a heat pump. Not exactly true, depending on how you define 'cold fusion.' To clarify - in recent testing of nano-nickel by Brian Ahern using various alloy nanopowders (similar to both Arata

Re: [Vo]:The Rossi device is not a heat pump

2011-06-05 Thread Joshua Cude
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Cude 2 - I think the impact would be far more dramatic without any input, regardless of how carefully it's measured. As I've said, this not only makes the effect more obvious, but in practice, a device that needs input is

RE: [Vo]:The Rossi device is not a heat pump

2011-06-05 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
This brings up a question I have Re: heat pumps : Assume there's a device that can absorb energy, whether mechanical, electrical, or thermal, but not get hot -- the energy is sent to some unspecified alternate universe let us say for the sake of argument. Steorn claims that their ORBOs when run

Re: [Vo]:The Rossi device is not a heat pump

2011-06-05 Thread Harry Veeder
cool! In theory fusion can be endothermic or exothermic depending on the atomic numbers of the participating atoms. Heck, the same goes for fission. Lets wait for Brian's isotopic analysis. Harry From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, June 5, 2011 12:08:04

[Vo]:E-cat under test in U-Bologna

2011-06-05 Thread Michele Comitini
Interesting and amusing article from one of the physicist in the team that has the magic box at disposal. http://www.socialnews.it/ARTICOLI2011/ARTICOLI201105/fusione.html Google translator may help... Mic

[Vo]:Piezonucleare

2011-06-05 Thread Harry Veeder
somebody sent me this video link. Its in italian news report concerning neutron production when a rock is fractured.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onoqKPwVv5o Harry

Re: [Vo]:The Rossi device is not a heat pump

2011-06-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote: You misunderstand. I didn't mean it was a heat pump. I meant it would not be much better than a heat pump. I've made this case several times, so I got a little economic in the wording. The argument goes that if its gain were better than an ideal

RE: [Vo]:Piezonucleare

2011-06-05 Thread Jones Beene
Fracto-fusion - this has been seen before - even before PF. Also in compression zones in glaciers - gamma radiation is documented. -Original Message- From: Harry Veeder somebody sent me this video link. Its in italian news report concerning neutron production when a rock is

RE: [Vo]:The Rossi device is not a heat pump

2011-06-05 Thread Jones Beene
From: Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. * * Assume there's a device that can absorb energy, whether mechanical, electrical, or thermal, but not get hot -- the energy is sent to some unspecified alternate universe let us say for the sake of argument For the sake of this argument, assume that

Re: [Vo]:E-cat under test in U-Bologna

2011-06-05 Thread Peter Gluck
You are right, dear Michele but I cannot find much information re what the scientists at U. Bologna are really doing. And what they are not allowed to do. Peter On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Michele Comitini michele.comit...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting and amusing article from one of the

[Vo]:fascinating dynamic view of all asteroids found from 1980 to 2010, orbiting mostly from Earth to Jupiter, growing to well over 0.5 million: Rich Murray 2011.06.05

2011-06-05 Thread Rich Murray
fascinating dynamic view of all asteroids found from 1980 to 2010, orbiting mostly from Earth to Jupiter, growing to well over 0.5 million: Rich Murray 2011.06.05 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqC1QjlVUYk 6:41 video of continuous discovery of asteroids in the region of Earth's night sky, mostly