Re: [Vo]:Villa and Ferrari answer question

2011-06-11 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2011-06-11 06:30, Harry Veeder wrote: On facebook 'Rats Gautam' sent emails to all the individuals mentioned in Loris Ferrari's article but only received responses from Mauro Villa and Loris Ferrari himself. He posted their responses here: https://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/EnergyCatalyzer

re: [Vo]:2011 Colloquium MIT Tomorrow

2011-06-11 Thread francis
From: francis [mailto:froarty...@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 9:13 AM To: 'jone...@pacbell.net' Subject: [Vo]:2011 Colloquium MIT Tomorrow Hi Jones, Good points all and greatly anticipating the transcripts from these presentations - hopefully more on Brian's

Re: [Vo]:Villa and Ferrari answer question

2011-06-11 Thread Terry Blanton
I hope we don't have to wait until September for more data. T

RE: [Vo]:A debate: What to call Cold Fusion

2011-06-11 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
The following is from Edmund Storms who gave me permission to post his thoughts pertaining to this subject thread. *** I gave a lot of thought to what was basic to the process when I proposed Chemically Assisted Nuclear

[Vo]:Hot air rises, even in constant volume

2011-06-11 Thread David Jonsson
Hi This obvious fact from hot air balloons and rising smoke is also the case in constant volume. Just do the math if you can't see what I mean. Imagine a ball on lying at rest in a box. This is equivalent of a cold gas. All pressure from the ball is on the bottom of the box. The weight of the

Re: [Vo]:Villa and Ferrari answer question

2011-06-11 Thread Jouni Valkonen
Daniele Passerini constantly talks about April 21. Perhaps this mysterious date was that, when team Ferrari made the 10 hour test with output that was sufficient for 10-20 washing machines. If that is the case, then scientific validation of E-Cat has already been made, by this Bologna team of

RE: [Vo]:A debate: What to call Cold Fusion

2011-06-11 Thread Jones Beene
Well, Steven - since we are back to name calling - CANR is a good name, but it may miss the PR-boat (public relations) - particularly if this field aspires to have an identity that encompasses most of the hydrogen energy anomalies. Nuclear decay, fission or fusion do not violate CoE for the

Re: [Vo]:2011 Colloquium MIT Tomorrow

2011-06-11 Thread Harry Veeder
Does anyone know if it is being recorded on video? Harry - Original Message From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, June 9, 2011 10:34:15 PM Subject: [Vo]:2011 Colloquium MIT Tomorrow http://world.std.com/~mica/2011colloq.html Speakers:  Peter

Re: [Vo]:A debate: What to call Cold Fusion

2011-06-11 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sat, 11 Jun 2011 15:10:12 -0700: Hi, [snip] Isomer energy itself is a newer field that was born out of top secret military devices like the hafnium or tantalum (gamma) lasers. What the nature of the loss mass involved consists of - is nebulous: Gluons? Pions?

Re: [Vo]:A debate: What to call Cold Fusion

2011-06-11 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sat, 11 Jun 2011 15:10:12 -0700: Hi, [snip] However, the real point of this post is that mass assigned to an element is an average, and the deviation for average is unknown. The range of mass in any element could be small, which is the mainstream viewpoint -

RE: [Vo]:2011 Colloquium MIT Tomorrow

2011-06-11 Thread Jones Beene
Early report is that time constraints were running over ... and Brian did not get to present today ... and curiously that there was a fair amount of deep talk about the huge missed opportunity of the Patterson Cell. When the history of this chapter is finally written - that failure (remember that

Re: [Vo]:2011 Colloquium MIT Tomorrow

2011-06-11 Thread Terry Blanton
The Patterson styrene microbeads had a copper substrate coated with Ni followed by a layer of Pd and topping off with Ni. Lithium sulfate was the electrolyte. I wonder why Patterson chose that particular electrolyte? And did the Cu actually play a part in the reaction? Was the method of metal

Re: [Vo]:2011 Colloquium MIT Tomorrow

2011-06-11 Thread Terry Blanton
Here's a good article on the cell. Interesting that some beads had Ni only; but, it appears they all used copper chloride so the Ni would not damage the styrene. http://www.padrak.com/ine/PPC97.html T

Re: [Vo]:2011 Colloquium MIT Tomorrow

2011-06-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: ... and curiously that there was a fair amount of deep talk about the huge missed opportunity of the Patterson Cell. When the history of this chapter is finally written - that failure (remember that Motorola almost got involved with big buck$) could

Re: [Vo]:2011 Colloquium MIT Tomorrow

2011-06-11 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 11:23 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: It was heartbreaking. It was one of the most disappointing frustrating infuriating incidents in the history of cold fusion, which has had many dreadful incidents. But, what most of our list members might not know, as