Re: [Vo]:Neutrinos, FTL, and scientific textus receptus

2011-09-25 Thread Kyle Mcallister
--- On Sat, 9/24/11, Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com wrote: Jouni, I am not certain I follow quite what you're suggesting. Are you suggesting that, possibly, the absolute frame of reference may have differing velocities based on the velocity of the local object? I.E, some planet,

Re: [Vo]:Neutrinos, FTL, and scientific textus receptus

2011-09-25 Thread Kyle Mcallister
--- On Sat, 9/24/11, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote: Yeah.  Bien sur.  The whole issue isn't that some religious law might be broken; it's that you can get contradictions if we allow stuff like this to go on without careful controls on it, and short cuts, improbability physics,

Re: [Vo]:Hypothesis explaining FTL neutrinos

2011-09-25 Thread Axil Axil
From the CERN paper, all the neutrinos stated out as muon neutrinos and where received as muon neutrinos without flavor change to tau neutrinos. So no flavor changing occurred. The speed of the muon neutrinos was not a function of their energy either. These results rule out the MSW effect as a

Re: [Vo]:the OTHER zero point

2011-09-25 Thread Mauro Lacy
On 09/24/2011 06:23 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: First, you hit a sore point here, and I'm going to address it first. The sore point is people giving some special, unusual meaning to a common word, and then pretending that they've done something more clever than just introduce a monkey wrench

[Vo]:Rossi steam calorimetry

2011-09-25 Thread Peter Heckert
Hi found a video that demonstrates how easy steam calorimetry can be done: http://youtu.be/OHvnpYgg_rw No heat excanger needed as they will use at sweden and no 6 months of preparation as Levi claimed. Some bubbling happens. I think that comes from air, that was dissolved in the evaporated

Re: [Vo]:Rossi steam calorimetry

2011-09-25 Thread Mattia Rizzi
Exaclty. The video was made ny an italian and show a TRUE 5kW 7kg/h (of liquid water) and it's huge, compared to the krivit video, despite some experts. -Messaggio originale- From: Peter Heckert Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 1:53 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Rossi

[Vo]:Re: Rossi steam calorimetry

2011-09-25 Thread Mattia Rizzi
Ah, same parameters as in Krivit video. 5kW of power, 7kg/h of steam, same diameter of hose. -Messaggio originale- From: Mattia Rizzi Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 2:21 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi steam calorimetry Exaclty. The video was made ny an italian

[Vo]:Re: Rossi steam calorimetry

2011-09-25 Thread Mattia Rizzi
Correction: 7kg/h of water consumed. The calorimetry done in the video confirm results. -Messaggio originale- From: Mattia Rizzi Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 2:23 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: Rossi steam calorimetry Ah, same parameters as in Krivit video. 5kW of power,

[Vo]:Part II of Swartz Colloquium

2011-09-25 Thread Terry Blanton
Is finally available here: http://pesn.com/2011/09/25/9501919_2011_Cold_Fusion_Colloquium_Report_Published/SwartzColloqPart2.pdf

Re: [Vo]:Steam Sparge

2011-09-25 Thread Horace Heffner
Attached is the scale reading at 0:33 in the Mario video: http://youtu.be/OHvnpYgg_rw This reading corresponds to the initial 10 kg weight. Note the 5 major divisions. The question then is whether the line at 6 o'clock is the zero line. inline: Mario0_33bucket.jpg Best regards, Horace

Re: [Vo]:Steam Sparge

2011-09-25 Thread Horace Heffner
Attached is the scale reading at 2:44 in the Mario video: http://youtu.be/OHvnpYgg_rw This reading corresponds to the final weight. Note the 6 major divisions. 12 minor divisions. The question then is whether the line at 6 o'clock is the zero line. Best regards, Horace Heffner

Re: [Vo]:Steam Sparge

2011-09-25 Thread Horace Heffner
Attached is a jpeg, Krivit9_53.jpg, from 9.53 in the Krivit video. showing Rossi's wrist and the steam pipe. Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/ inline: Krivit9_53.jpg

Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi steam calorimetry

2011-09-25 Thread Horace Heffner
On Sep 25, 2011, at 4:23 AM, Mattia Rizzi wrote: Correction: 7kg/h of water consumed. The calorimetry done in the video confirm results. It is not clear to me what results are you saying are confirmed? If 105 gm of steam are produced as stated, then that is 6.3 kg/hr. If the steam

Re: [Vo]:Hypothesis explaining FTL neutrinos

2011-09-25 Thread Mauro Lacy
On 09/24/2011 09:57 PM, Mauro Lacy wrote: On 09/24/2011 11:04 AM, Horace Heffner wrote: The New Scientist article, Dimension-hop may allow neutrinos to cheat light speed, here: http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20957-dimensionhop-may-allow- neutrinos-to-cheat-light-speed.html suggest

Re: [Vo]:Rossi steam calorimetry

2011-09-25 Thread Jouni Valkonen
Steam sparging is easy to do, but obviously we must still remember to leave measurements for experts, because if Horace does the measurements he will get at least 25% error, because he can only do one datapoint at the time... I do not know where to even begin debunking Horace's analysis, perhaps

Re: [Vo]:Rossi steam calorimetry

2011-09-25 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 25.09.2011 20:05, schrieb Jouni Valkonen: Steam sparging is easy to do, but obviously we must still remember to leave measurements for experts, because if Horace does the measurements he will get at least 25% error, because he can only do one datapoint at the time... I do not know where

Re: [Vo]:Hypothesis explaining FTL neutrinos

2011-09-25 Thread Jouni Valkonen
Maoro, i did propose that idea also here at Vortex, but it does not work and it cannot explain 7 km/s difference. We have measured that speed of light in vacuum is not depended on direction at least accuracy of ±0.1 m/s. I do not remember how accurately it was measured, but it was much more

Re: [Vo]:Rossi steam calorimetry

2011-09-25 Thread Horace Heffner
On Sep 25, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Jouni Valkonen wrote: Steam sparging is easy to do, but obviously we must still remember to leave measurements for experts, because if Horace does the measurements he will get at least 25% error, because he can only do one datapoint at the time... Now

Re: [Vo]:Hypothesis explaining FTL neutrinos

2011-09-25 Thread Mauro Lacy
On 09/25/2011 03:19 PM, Jouni Valkonen wrote: Maoro, i did propose that idea also here at Vortex, but it does not work and it cannot explain 7 km/s difference. We have measured that speed of light in vacuum is not depended on direction at least accuracy of ±0.1 m/s. I do not remember how

[Vo]:Professor Levi is Co-Inventor of a Coffeemaschine.

2011-09-25 Thread Peter Heckert
http://www.unibo.it/SitoWebDocente/default.htm?UPN=enrico.campari%40unibo.itTabControl1=TabCV So he should know much about steam,energy and water overflow ;-)

Re: [Vo]:Professor Levi is Co-Inventor of a Coffeemaschine.

2011-09-25 Thread Horace Heffner
On Sep 25, 2011, at 1:03 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: http://www.unibo.it/SitoWebDocente/default.htm?UPN=enrico.campari% 40unibo.itTabControl1=TabCV So he should know much about steam,energy and water overflow ;-) I wonder if it was a percolator? 8^) Best regards, Horace Heffner

Re: [Vo]:Professor Levi is Co-Inventor of a Coffeemaschine.

2011-09-25 Thread Horace Heffner
On Sep 25, 2011, at 1:03 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: http://www.unibo.it/SitoWebDocente/default.htm?UPN=enrico.campari% 40unibo.itTabControl1=TabCV So he should know much about steam,energy and water overflow ;-) All joking aside, I hope for Professor Levi's very great success in his next

Re: [Vo]:Neutrinos, FTL, and scientific textus receptus

2011-09-25 Thread Jouni Valkonen
Kyle, Indeed i again wrote something that is very difficult to understand because we do not have proper words. My less than adequate English does not help either. Anyway for recapitulation, here is the key idea of my definition for absolute frame of reference in ”breef” summary. Imagine

[Vo]:Nobel Laureate Brian Josephson to test an e-Cat module on October 6th

2011-09-25 Thread Akira Shirakawa
Hello group, This got just posted on Daniele Passerini's blog: http://goo.gl/v2uqo (Long URL: http://22passi.blogspot.com/2011/09/test-e-cat-col-nobel-brian-josephson-il.html ) It looks like Brian Josephson will test an e-Cat module quite soon. He announced this on the CMNS list: On

Re: [Vo]:Nobel Laureate Brian Josephson to test an e-Cat module on October 6th

2011-09-25 Thread Jouni Valkonen
After almost a year of scientific failures in testing E-Cat I will bet 2 cents that Brian will also fail scientifically. He will probably measure lots of irrelevant data, but misses some crucial bit of information that prevents us to estimate the reliability of measurements accurately, and thus we

Re: [Vo]:Rossi steam calorimetry

2011-09-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: found a video that demonstrates how easy steam calorimetry can be done: http://youtu.be/OHvnpYgg_rw No heat excanger needed as they will use at sweden and no 6 months of preparation as Levi claimed. This is a steam sparge test. This is what I

Re: [Vo]:Rossi steam calorimetry

2011-09-25 Thread Harry Veeder
From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 9:13:05 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi steam calorimetry I do not understand why they intend to use a heat exchanger. Why not simply run water through the thing, the way they did in the 18-hour test

Re: [Vo]:Nobel Laureate Brian Josephson to test an e-Cat module on October 6th

2011-09-25 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 26.09.2011 00:32, schrieb Akira Shirakawa: Hello group, This got just posted on Daniele Passerini's blog: http://goo.gl/v2uqo (Long URL: http://22passi.blogspot.com/2011/09/test-e-cat-col-nobel-brian-josephson-il.html ) It looks like Brian Josephson will test an e-Cat module quite soon.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi steam calorimetry

2011-09-25 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 26.09.2011 05:20, schrieb Harry Veeder: From: Jed Rothwelljedrothw...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 9:13:05 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi steam calorimetry I do not understand why they intend to use a heat exchanger. Why not simply run water through the