this kind of cost analysis is on the good path.
however the price are not yet stable. already rossi say's thate the cost of
thermal W is reduced from 2k$ to 500$, and to be honnest like software or
drugs, the cost is research, not building. thus it can get down with
volume. Rossi talk about
On 30 November 2011 06:10, Berke Durak berke.du...@gmail.com wrote:
So far I haven't found anything significantly wrong with the 1 MW
demo. Also I still don't understand your instantaneous power
transfer discontinuity argument.
It's pretty simple: you have a large quantity of water - about
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 12:10 AM, Berke Durak berke.du...@gmail.com wrote:
On the other hand, if boiling begins at 11:00, then the power
increase should be Pdot = 2Q/t^2 = 31 W/s, giving a power of
31*144*60 = 270 kW at 13:22.
Indeed, I got that wrong, 160 W/s doesn't make sense, but 45
On 2011-11-29 13:32, Akira Shirakawa wrote:
On 2011-11-29 12:14, Akira Shirakawa wrote:
Hello group,
http://www.energeticambiente.it/sistemi-idrogeno-nikel/14742857-novita-cella-piantelli-5.html#post119273029
Roy Virgilio states again and confirms that there are no agreements
between the
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 9:47 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
But as long as I am writing it, here are some great pictures of robots gone
wild from the 1930s:
In the interest of fair and balanced reporting, imagine how this robot
impressed a 10 year old in 1964:
PRAXEN - DEFKALION GREEN TECHNOLOGIES GLOBAL
PRESS RELEASE
--
Wednesday 30th November, 2011
Today, and through our company website, Praxen - Defkalion Green
Technologies Global has disclosed its
Wednesday 30th November, 2011
Today,
and through our company website, Praxen - Defkalion Green Technologies
Global has disclosed its current work on Nickel and Hydrogen exothermic
reaction using Chemically Assisted Low Energy Nuclear Reactions.
The
provided Technical Specifications Sheet
Looking at the specs, they really want happy customers.
There's even a Pleasure and Temperature Sensor on Page 4.
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
PRAXEN - DEFKALION GREEN TECHNOLOGIES GLOBAL
PRESS RELEASE
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Robert Leguillon
robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote:
Looking at the specs, they really want happy customers.
There's even a Pleasure and Temperature Sensor on Page 4.
Jed rewrote their first press release for them. I guess his heroic
efforts are needed again!
There is no information on availability! Or tests!
2011/11/30 Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com
Looking at the specs, they really want happy customers.
There's even a Pleasure and Temperature Sensor on Page 4.
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
PRAXEN - DEFKALION GREEN
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
...There is precedent for this. In 1917, the United States wanted to begin
large-scale mass production of aircraft for World War I. The industry was
hamstrung by patent fights especially by the original patent which had
Is the unit basically a small furnace, perhaps to heat a few rooms or water?
What's the COP on this configuration? I haven't been able to determine that yet.
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Orionworks sez:
Is the unit basically a small furnace, perhaps to heat a few rooms or water?
What's the COP on this configuration? I haven't been able to determine that
yet.
Let me clarify. It sez it's for Domestic or Building, Agricultural and
Industrial uses.
It looks to me like it's a
minimum COP is 25 so far I remember.
Details are here:
http://www.defkalion-energy.com/files/HyperionSpecsSheetNovember2011.pdf
This is now on their website under products.
Peter
- Original Nachricht
Von: OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com
An:
http://www.defkalion-energy.com/files/HyperionSpecsSheetNovember2011.pdf
On Wed, 2011-11-30 at 08:30 -0600, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote:
Is the unit basically a small furnace, perhaps to heat a few rooms or water?
What's the COP on this configuration? I haven't been able to determine that
yet.
For the single reactor kernel, from page 18 of the spec
So, they can keep it working for months without energy input even with a
highly inefficient generator...
2011/11/30 Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com
On Wed, 2011-11-30 at 08:30 -0600, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote:
Is the unit basically a small furnace, perhaps to heat a few rooms
On Nov 29, 2011, at 8:48 PM, Dr Josef Karthauser wrote:
On 29 Nov 2011, at 22:49, Horace Heffner wrote:
In 2007 I converted Jemimenko's theory into a full isomorphism
between the laws of electromagnetism and the laws of
gravimagnetism. Creating this isomorphism involves the use of the
Terry, that was a brilliant! Thanks for cheering my day.
I wonder if in popular science literature, Alice in Wonderland is the most
cited book? I would say that it is at least more cited than Darwin's
Origin of Species.
—Jouni
On Nov 30, 2011 3:08 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
I wrote: The use of the factor i in gravimagnetic terms eliminates
the manual sign placing and permits a full isomorphism between the
two sets of laws, an isomorphism the existence of which has been
commonly sensed by physicists for over a century, but not to my
knowledge ever fully
On Nov 30, 2011, at 5:16 AM, Terry Blanton wrote:
http://www.defkalion-energy.com/files/
HyperionSpecsSheetNovember2011.pdf
This account has been suspended.
Either the domain has been overused, or the reseller ran out of
resources.
Best regards,
Horace Heffner
From Peter:
minimum COP is 25 so far I remember.
Details are here:
http://www.defkalion-energy.com/files/HyperionSpecsSheetNovember2011.pdf
25?
On page 18 it sez: COP Better than 1:25 / 1:32
Big discrepancy here.
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 9:30 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
Is the unit basically a small furnace, perhaps to heat a few rooms or water?
What's the COP on this configuration? I haven't been able to determine that
yet.
Mama bear COP = 25 @ 11 kW; papa bear
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:
This account has been suspended.
Either the domain has been overused, or the reseller ran out of resources.
I sent it to you directly; but, here it is until Defkalion buys more bytes:
On Nov 30, 2011, at 6:20 AM, Terry Blanton wrote:
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Horace Heffner
hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:
This account has been suspended.
Either the domain has been overused, or the reseller ran out of
resources.
I sent it to you directly; but, here it is until
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 9:30 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
Is the unit basically a small furnace, perhaps to heat a few rooms or water?
What's the COP on this configuration? I haven't
http://www.cleantechblog.com/2011/11/a-fusion-reactor-hollywood-could-love.html
The government in US does not exist. it is a puppet of business, and this
is a concept that in Europe we had to learn to fight. But it is hard to
import.
US Government is a vehicle to make business run nicely.
In europe a big change is in process, but not event to the quite coherent
system of US.
The Hyperion Data Sheet, p. 6 says row material which I assume is a typo
for raw material and I assume it is talking about the powder. Anyway, it
says:
Sub Sieve Particle Size: 3-7 microns
Bulk density: 1,8-2,7gr/cm3
Typical surface area Chemical composition (Wt%): 0,4m2/gr (BET)
Preparation
This claims is for a working 1MW fusion reactor the size of a rice
cooker. That would be a bomb, not a reactor. Perhaps someone got the units
of measure mixed up.
- Jed
I knew they were coming out with something sexy. It has a pleasure
sensor! I kid you not:
http://i.imgur.com/X8AZQ.jpg
And importantly: proprietory catalysts involved in reaction chamber
On 30 November 2011 15:45, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
The Hyperion Data Sheet, p. 6 says row material which I assume is a typo
for raw material and I assume it is talking about the powder. Anyway, it
says:
Robert Lynn robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com wrote:
And importantly: proprietary catalysts involved in reaction chamber
Oh yeah. Not sure what that means. I guess it means the raw material is
mostly Ni and they add proprietary catalysts -- whatever that means. In
other words, this does not tell
Two terminally blurry images and a bunch of computer assisted drawings?
It's hardly what Defkalion was claiming for months they had -- many devices
under extensive testing at high power levels and long runs. What ever
happened to the much advertised program to have the Greek authorities
validate
Am 30.11.2011 16:52, schrieb Mary Yugo:
I knew they were coming out with something sexy. It has a pleasure
sensor! I kid you not:
http://i.imgur.com/X8AZQ.jpg
Remembers me of good old Amiga which had a BEER line connected to the
processor.
Could it be Stephen Horvath, Star Scientific and their Muon Catalysed
system.
http://www.starscientific.com.au/welcome-message-from-chairman/
Check out the little red looking ball featured in their video - it's about
the size of a rice cooker and looks rather like a target/reactor
Hi Jed,
That list caught my eye as well.. Those are just the impurities
in the Ni powder. For instance, my 30nm Ni powder says 99.8%, which
means there are a number of impurities.
Some clues as to the chemical assist catalyst are there.. the toxic
materials used in all modes suggest a non-toxic
The CEO of that company keeps going with his father's projects. One of them
was a care that was fueled by a hot fusion reactor...
2011/11/30 Robert Lynn robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com
Could it be Stephen Horvath, Star Scientific and their Muon Catalysed
system.
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
Two terminally blurry images and a bunch of computer assisted drawings?
It's hardly what Defkalion was claiming for months they had -- many devices
under extensive testing at high power levels and long runs. What ever
In this case you have to ask them, not us, Vortexians because we have just
received this document. If the performances presented are real/true, it is
excellent.
Anyway, compare DGT's engineering with Rossi's.
Peter
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 6:03 PM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
Two
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
I knew they were coming out with something sexy. It has a pleasure sensor!
It really needs a pressure sensor to go with the pleasure.
Oh, the pleasure sensor requires an optional attachment.
T
New I'd seen it better somewhere, check out 11:00 on in the following video
for a better breakdown of the Star Scientific and a picture of their little
ball reactor.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7RqT9i5f4c
On 30 November 2011 16:10, Robert Lynn robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.comwrote:
Could it
DK announces its current work on Nickel and Hydrogen exothermic reaction
using Chemically Assisted Low Energy
Nuclear Reactions. They make no mention of Rossi but instead point simply to
the generic field of LENR Chemistry as their inspiration. Since Rossi has
already admitted that DK was never
It needs a pleasure sensor.
By a poster called Per:
If they improve on a process that is stolen it does not change the fact, that
it's stolen. Read the inteview. Defkalion please prove otherwise!
Defkalion needs to moderate posts. It will be more work, but the forum is going
to quickly run out of control (again). They
Rossi talk about it...
He says he uses five nine, thus 99.999% pure.
Defkalion seems more tolerant.
Globally they seems to behave like engineer like me...
From the problems they take into account, I can guess not only they make
the machine work,
but they expect it to be maintained, abused,
*Has your muon catalysed fusion system been independently tested?*
Our system has undergone, and continues to undergo, rigorous testing by our
own team of scientists as well as leading, independent global experts from
around the world. As long as our IP is protected, we have an open door
policy
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 3:48 AM, Robert Lynn robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 30 November 2011 06:10, Berke Durak berke.du...@gmail.com wrote:
So far I haven't found anything significantly wrong with the 1 MW
demo. Also I still don't understand your instantaneous power
transfer
Someone on Moletrap asked the unit of measure for the pleasure sensor.
Someone else answered psighs.
Yes, the Amiga circuit diagram was full of jokes :).
--
Dr Joe Karthauser
On 30 Nov 2011, at 16:10, Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
Am 30.11.2011 16:52, schrieb Mary Yugo:
I knew they were coming out with something sexy. It has a pleasure sensor!
I kid you not:
Most of third party tests will be broad casted (via Internet life stream)
with the acceptance of the testers. We have been prepared and equipped to
do so already
Good!
Date of every specific schedule tests will be released later.
Not so good. At least they didn't say soon!
From Defkalion's
proprietary catalysts involved in reaction chamber seems to imply the
proprietary additive pervades the entire reaction chamber rather than just the
powder. Mixing with the pressurized h2 I think we have to assume it is another
gas or becomes gaseous with heating.
Fran
From: Jed Rothwell
Slate.com has now added text to the slides. They forgot to originally.
It is an interesting discussion of the fear that automation will reduce
employment. The comic strip at the end is good.
- Jed
A long time ago Rossi said that an eCat's output could be
continuously variable between 0% and 100%.
He hasn't said that recently. Defkalion/Hyperion also says it's
bang-bang (on/off) ..
In general, the mean time to put a Hyperion from 0 to 100% of its
capacity is 6,5min..
For both
Alan J Fletcher wrote:
A long time ago Rossi said that an eCat's output could be continuously
variable between 0% and 100%.
He hasn't said that recently. Defkalion/Hyperion also says it's
bang-bang (on/off) ..
In general, the mean time to put a Hyperion from 0 to 100% of its
capacity is
“I think we have to assume it is another gas or becomes gaseous with
heating.”
I have always believed that the proprietary catalyst under discussion here
transforms the hydrogen in the reaction envelope to some exotic hydrogen
form; specifically Rydberg matter.
This catalyst need not be
Robert Lynn wrote:
Also space shuttle main engine combustion chamber releases 9 GW from a
rice-cookerish 10 litres of volume, not a bomb, but definitely vigorous.
The Shuttle engine was as close to a bomb as you can get without being a
bomb. I mean it was the most heat and energy possible in
At 11:13 AM 11/30/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote:
You do not have to worry about wasting heat. It costs nothing. On
the other hand it would be annoying to have to leave the cooling
fans on. It would be noisy and it would cause wear and tear.
At COP=6 I think you DO have to worry. COP=20, no.
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
All space heaters and water heaters use the on/off mode.
My friend actually heats his home with a few of these:
http://goo.gl/4vq2K
which take a while to turn on. He did that when he found out that the
natural gas
We live risky lives. Walking is really controlled falling.
T
Alan J Fletcher wrote:
You do not have to worry about wasting heat. It costs nothing. On the
other hand it would be annoying to have to leave the cooling fans on.
It would be noisy and it would cause wear and tear.
At COP=6 I think you DO have to worry. COP=20, no.
I am sure the COP can be
I wrote:
Swartz talked about optimizing output . . . .
I refer to Swartz's papers on Optimal Operating Points (OOP). I do not mean
that optimization or a high COP is unimportant. I meant that most
researchers considered Swarz's approach premature. They figured that
problem will take care of
Isn't that about the same as Piantelli promised to achieve about right now,
that, COP 200?
With a COP of 100, you can self feed themselves easily, and even with 10%
efficiency, it can make a large airplane, say, a 747 -400, fly for 6
months, straight, using propellers moved by electric engines
It would be nice to become free of the electric power company, but I am afraid
that the word soon is relative. If you mean 25 years as soon, maybe so. What
are we to do with all that copper strung across the country? I wonder if
copper can be used as an active ingredient of an LENR system.
David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
It would be nice to become free of the electric power company, but I am
afraid that the word soon is relative. If you mean 25 years as soon, maybe
so.
Yes, 25 years is what I had in mind.
What are we to do with all that copper strung across
Am 29.11.2011 18:15, schrieb Mary Yugo:
If you're easily offended, just skip it.
http://www.moletrap.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Rossicaptions
Wanted to upload this but cannot find a way to register...
attachment: ColdFusion3.jpeg
Regarding this issue of overhead or COP, see my book, chapter 14, Diagram
14.1. This is from the annual energy review 2002 edition, EIA. The title is
Electricity flow, 2002. It is probably online somewhere. . . Here is a
recent version:
http://www.eia.gov/totalenergy/data/annual/diagram5.cfm
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
I am sure the COP can be set anywhere you like. It is just a matter of
engineering. [...]
It is not an issue. It never has been. Since 1990 I think it has been
clear that cold fusion can have any ratio you like,
Since the subject of electric power generation and power companies has come
up, let me get back to this analysis. I quibble with it, for the reasons I
just mentioned in chapter 14 of my book.
My conclusion is that if you are going to set up a cold fusion reactor to
generate power to be resold to
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Let us compare this to the Hyperion brochure, p. 18. The ratio varies from
1:25 at the low end for the small reactor, up to 1:145. In percent terms,
that is 4% to 0.7%. in other words, it is comparable to TD or plant
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.dewrote:
http://www.moletrap.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Rossicaptions
Wanted to upload this but cannot find a way to register...
Hi Peter,
If you want to join the moletrap forum, please go to
http://www.moletrap.co.uk/forum/
On Nov 30, 2011, at 12:05 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
[snip]
Overall, cold fusion will you use less raw heat than today's
overall energy production because all cold fusion home generators
will also be cogenerators (combined heat and power units). It makes
no sense to build anything else.
I wrote:
Soon there will be no such thing as AC, and no power company.
I meant there will be no external power sources outside the building (no
power company or distribution network), and I also meant that all power
will be DC, not AC, to reduce the danger of electrocution.
When I say soon I
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
Something doesn't make sense.
Many things don't. If the Hyperions require mains power and use only a
small battery for backup, what do they do in the event of a long lasting
mains power failure in some remote location
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
I do not know what the cost of a 250 kW generator is.
About $40,000 plus installation for diesel.
T
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
I do not know what the cost of a 250 kW generator is.
About $40,000 plus installation for diesel.
Do you mean just the generator portion? Minus the diesel engine?
Of course they do not usually sell just the generator portion alone, but
perhaps you
From Jed:
...
I assume that a unit used for space heating only would have something
like a thermoelectric device and a storage battery to keep itself going,
or to wake itself up. So there would be no waste of external AC power.
Perhaps early models will depend upon AC power. Soon there will
Am 30.11.2011 22:51, schrieb Mary Yugo:
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Peter Heckert
peter.heck...@arcor.de mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
http://www.moletrap.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Rossicaptions
Wanted to upload this but cannot find a way to register...
Hi Peter,
If
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
Many things don't. If the Hyperions require mains power and use only a
small battery for backup, what do they do in the event of a long lasting
mains power failure in some remote location where it's very cold?
In remote locations, the units will have a
Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:
Heat can also be used directly for air conditioning and refrigeration.
Yup. I discussed that briefly in chapter 15.
- Jed
On Apr 1, 2011, at 8:05 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
On 04/01/2011 11:27 AM, Jones Beene wrote:
This turned up on Peter’s Ego-Out blog:
An experimenter in Québec, Canada is working on a cold fusion
boiler to heat a house.
He limits the capacity at 1kw of electricity input and
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
I do not know what the cost of a 250 kW generator is.
About $40,000 plus installation for diesel.
Do you mean just the generator portion? Minus the diesel engine?
Of course
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
Why don't they recycle heat from the output to the input through a
regulator if they need heat input?
This would appear to be a violation of the laws of thermodynamics. Perhaps
On Apr 1, 2011, at 9:16 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
On 04/01/2011 12:52 PM, francis wrote:
Here is the pdf in English
http://omael.com/!_HydroPlasmol_Telechargements/Resume/
Projet_Hydro-Plasmol_Anglais.PDF
They seem to embrace nuclear fusion, proton capture and splitting
of
I suggested they include a kick starter in the event commercial power
isn't available.
Hey, motorcycles used to have 'em!
T
OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
In the interim, prior to 25 - 30 years, it seems to me that there is a
good chance we might see distributed AC spread across the landscape as
small substations spring up at local filling stations - which use to . .
I'm thinking
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
You don't know or you can't say?
I do not know. If I could not say, I would not say, or I would say I cannot
say.
- Jed
Sorry for the out of date comments!
Gee, I fell for an April Fool's joke in December? 8^)))
Interesting that the site is still up.
On Apr 1, 2011, at 9:22 AM, Dennis wrote:
remember today's date
Dennis Cravens
From: Stephen A. Lawrence
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 11:16 AM
To:
Terry Blanton wrote:
About $40,000 plus installation for diesel.
Complete. Even includes a fuel tank.
http://www.affordablegenerator.com/250_kW_60Hz_Generator_with_Cummins_Engine_p/250kw%20cummins.htm
Wow! That is cheap. I had no idea they were so cheap.
I wonder what a 250 kW steam
As one who works in this field, the transition will not be easy or nice.
Large amounts of pain will occur if the grid fails to deliver reliable
electricity. This is not buggy whips or telephone exchanges. Cause the
grid to fail and we lose the ability to make things, process things,
deliver
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote:
Yes. Totally stand alone. While Rossi will not guarantee the Ac kW output,
which is as it should be, he has basically agreed to the idea of the test
setup. See you were wrong when you questioned my ability to do a
On Nov 30, 2011, at 8:31 PM, Bastiaan Bergman wrote:
Thanks, Horace, good stuff. I'm busy for a while.
You are welcome. I should be busy, but I am addicted to this list.
I should be getting some new hardware in a week or so, so I'm using
that as an excuse to kill some time. 8^)
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