[Vo]:Re: Possible solution to the Rossi Ni + p byproduct riddle

2011-12-17 Thread Horace Heffner
Deflation fusion theory provides a potential solution to the riddle of why the radioactive byproducts 59CU29, 61Cu29 and 62Cu29 to the Ni + p reactions do not appear in Rossi's byproducts. This solution of the specific radioactive byproducts problem is manifest if the following rules are

[Vo]: Resonances...

2011-12-17 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
I'll get to Robin's two questions at the end, but first this important clue... The following is peer-reviewed proof (published in Science and Nature Photonics) that a high energy photon can be converted to a lower energy photon with the 'missing' energy coupled into the lattice (physical

Re: [Vo]:Acceleration Under Load

2011-12-17 Thread Harry Veeder
Thane posted a new video on dec.14. He says he is going to install the prototype shown in an electric scooter. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dme4bW2fPhQ Harry On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 2:41 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: I think I've watched all of Thane's vids and from

Re: [Vo]:Royal Dutch Shell will invest in lenr research

2011-12-17 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2011-12-17 05:10, David ledin wrote: http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/12/16/shells-interest-indicates-major-shift-for-lenr/?utm_medium=twitterutm_source=NewEnergyTimesBlog In the comments: Steven B. Krivit says: December 17, 2011 at 00:21 Received via e–mail: I ask you take down the

Re: [Vo]:e-cat replication by Celani

2011-12-17 Thread Robert Lynn
I've been informed of another typo/mistranslation. Celani has been working with (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giuliano_Preparata) friend of Eugene Mallove http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq6YY8eFeYIfeature=related one of the first mainstream science's physicist that believed in cold fusion and

Re: [Vo]:Royal Dutch Shell will invest in lenr research

2011-12-17 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 4:56 AM, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote: While it's nice that now the general public knows, unwanted actions like this might prevent in the future disclosure of important LENR-related information to small groups like the CMNS mailing list. I hope Krivit

Re: [Vo]:Acceleration Under Load

2011-12-17 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 1:19 AM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Thane posted a new video on dec.14. He says he is going to install the prototype shown in an electric scooter. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dme4bW2fPhQ Installing free energy devices into vehicles instead of

RE: [Vo]:Royal Dutch Shell will invest in lenr research

2011-12-17 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
From Akira, On 2011-12-17 05:10, David ledin wrote: http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/12/16/shells-interest-indicates- major-shift-for-lenr/?utm_medium=twitterutm_source=NewEnergyTimesBlog In the comments: Steven B. Krivit says: December 17, 2011 at 00:21 Received via e-mail:

RE: [Vo]:Royal Dutch Shell will invest in lenr research

2011-12-17 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
From Terry: I don't think this is the first time SK has violated his confidentiality agreement with the CMNS group. They have the right to boot him you know. Not sure that is in their best interest, tho. Wow! Krivit actually IS a member of the CMNS group? I didn't know that! I'm surprised

Re: [Vo]:Royal Dutch Shell will invest in lenr research

2011-12-17 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 11:30 AM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: Wow! Krivit actually IS a member of the CMNS group? I didn't know that! Neither do I. I presumed that he was since he has done much to advance the field. I contacted the group and asked how to

Re: [Vo]:Royal Dutch Shell will invest in lenr research

2011-12-17 Thread Daniel Rocha
How can I become a member of that group? 2011/12/17 Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 11:30 AM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: Wow! Krivit actually IS a member of the CMNS group? I didn't know that! Neither do I. I presumed that

Re: [Vo]:Royal Dutch Shell will invest in lenr research

2011-12-17 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Neither do I.  I presumed that he was since he has done much to advance the field. I really should say that he has done much to advance the awareness of LENR. Recently he might have done more to obfuscate the research.

Re: [Vo]:Royal Dutch Shell will invest in lenr research

2011-12-17 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2011-12-17 17:38, Terry Blanton wrote: [...] Me, I wouldn't want to be a part of a group who would have me as a member. :-) Personally I think I would find very interesting to even just read (I don't think I'd even dare trying to post, to be honest!) what's going on there, even if I

Re: [Vo]:Royal Dutch Shell will invest in lenr research

2011-12-17 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: How can I become a member of that group? By invitation or referral of an existing member: http://groups.google.com/group/condensedmatterdiscussion-?lnk= Bon chance! T

Re: [Vo]:Acceleration Under Load

2011-12-17 Thread Daniel Rocha
MY, that is a violation worse than any Newton's law. EM do not generally obey any Newton's law because even at low energies it is sensitive to Lorentz invariance. So, a violation of Lenz law strongly implies violation of the constancy of the speed of light or violation of causality or violation of

Re: [Vo]:Royal Dutch Shell will invest in lenr research

2011-12-17 Thread Daniel Rocha
So, what I have to do is, for example, publish a paper in a peer reviewed journal with relevance to LENR and contact someone there, is that it? 2011/12/17 Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: How can I become a member of

Re: [Vo]:Royal Dutch Shell will invest in lenr research

2011-12-17 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: So, what I have to do is, for example, publish a paper in a peer reviewed journal with relevance to LENR and contact someone there, is that it? It would certainly help to demonstrate some knowledge in the field before

Re: [Vo]:Acceleration Under Load

2011-12-17 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: MY, that is a violation worse than any Newton's law. EM do not generally obey any Newton's law because even at low energies it is sensitive to Lorentz invariance. So, a violation of Lenz law strongly implies violation

Re: [Vo]:Acceleration Under Load

2011-12-17 Thread Daniel Rocha
About anything that claims over unity concerning violations of the EM field. 2011/12/17 Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.comwrote: MY, that is a violation worse than any Newton's law. EM do not generally obey any Newton's law

Re: [Vo]: Resonances...

2011-12-17 Thread Horace Heffner
On Dec 17, 2011, at 12:00 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote: [snip] This ties in with Alchemy as well, and the very difficult time LENR scientists had with repeatability... conditions HAVE TO BE JUST RIGHT, or else the effect does not manifest. This should tell you something about this

RE: [Vo]: Resonances...

2011-12-17 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Morning Horace! Thx for the thoughtful commentary... I am not suggesting that the ensembles that act as the energy sinks are all over, or take up large areas of the material... they are localized, and perhaps act as a 'cage' which contains the hi-E photon until it dissipates its E into the

Re: [Vo]: Resonances...

2011-12-17 Thread Horace Heffner
On Dec 17, 2011, at 10:53 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote: How does one explain the observation that the energy involved with interactions of electrons is a million times less than nuclear interactions, and yet the 'electric' charges are 'equal' (and opposite). I would argue that there

[Vo]:Defkalion factory visit?

2011-12-17 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
Seems a door has been opened for me to visit the Defkalion Hyperion factory in Greece: http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4811#p4811 http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4812#p4812

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion factory visit?

2011-12-17 Thread Mary Yugo
How do you figure that from those posts? I'll believe it when you have an appointment, a specific agenda to test something by a particular method, and a street address. Until then it's vapor and not steam. On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote: Seems

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion factory visit?

2011-12-17 Thread Mary Yugo
PS: If you do get to enter their place, you will be the first person **ever** to see the Hyperion device outside of maybe Defkalion staff and people who couldn't talk about it. If there is a device, of course. Be sure to take your hidden camera -- these days those are simple as a slightly

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion factory visit?

2011-12-17 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
What no comment on the SPAWAR presentation? No comments these people did not know how to measure what they were observing or that someone faked the results? While there is nothing wrong with holding an agnostic view of LENR, you cross the line and loose objectiveness when you have an agenda

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion factory visit?

2011-12-17 Thread Mary Yugo
Whoa there. Can you stick a subject for a second? What in the world makes you think Defkalion offered you a real opportunity to visit? How's it going with the schedule for Rossi to deliver a suitable thermal plant to connect to your generator? With respect to SPAWAR, the main thing I know

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion factory visit?

2011-12-17 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VymhJCcNBBc On 12/18/2011 8:43 AM, Mary Yugo wrote: Whoa there. Can you stick a subject for a second? What in the world makes you think Defkalion offered you a real opportunity to visit? How's it going with the schedule for Rossi to deliver a suitable

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion factory visit?

2011-12-17 Thread Mary Yugo
On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote: What no comment on the SPAWAR presentation? Brief search shows: Our results do not provide a positive identification of the origin of SPAWAR pits. However, they do show that chemical origin is a distinct

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion factory visit?

2011-12-17 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
The video linked http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VymhJCcNBBc was made May 29, 2009, well after the EarthTech web page you linked and shows neutron interactions inside the CR-39 film. You really do need to watch the whole video. On 12/18/2011 8:46 AM, Mary Yugo wrote: On Sat, Dec 17, 2011

RE: [Vo]: Resonances...

2011-12-17 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Thx Horace... I peruse your stuff over the holidays. Now more interesting clues that we're dealing with resonance/harmonics... -mark = Golden ratio hints at hidden atomic symmetry Jan. 7, 2010 Courtesy Helmholtz Association of German Research Centres and World Science staff By

[Vo]:Mass media exposure kills SPAWAR cold fusion research

2011-12-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
I am sorry to report that the authorities have finally closed down cold fusion research at SAPWAR. After Frank Gordon left, the project was on life support. Recent reports on Fox News and elsewhere mentioned it, bringing about the inevitable coup de grace. Like most cold fusion projects, this was

RE: [Vo]:Defkalion factory visit?

2011-12-17 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
So adept at stating the obvious. You're about as useful as tits on a bullfrog. -m From: Mary Yugo [mailto:maryyu...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 1:23 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Defkalion factory visit? How do you figure that from those posts? I'll

Re: [Vo]: Resonances...

2011-12-17 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:00 AM 12/17/2011, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote: I'll get to Robin's two questions at the end, but first this important clue... The following is peer-reviewed proof (published in Science and Nature Photonics) that a high energy photon can be converted to a lower energy photon with the

Re: [Vo]:Mass media exposure kills SPAWAR cold fusion research

2011-12-17 Thread David Roberson
It appears that the research at SAPWAR is being shut down at the wrong time. The demonstrations of Rossi and others should make those in charge take a short pause at least. The importance of LENR to the future of the world is going to be immense once it becomes mainstream and it is

Re: [Vo]:Mass media exposure kills SPAWAR cold fusion research

2011-12-17 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
I'm only small fish and late to the party. I do wish I was around when your friend Eugene Mallove was alive. I may have ended up very bloody and lying in the gutter but I would have put up a fight for what was right. I admire your tenacity. I will do whatever I can to get a LENR unit working

[Vo]:Cold Fusion: Fire from Water

2011-12-17 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
OK probably not new to the long term Vorts but still very interesting as are Fleischmann's comments: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=gGJiLrG3fLY

[Vo]:Kick starter for funding?

2011-12-17 Thread Sean True
If Dr. Miley is in need of low thousands of dollars to get to a breakthrough, is there a possibility of using kickstarter.com to raise the money? I'd kick in a thousand dollar pledge if Jed said it would get the good doctor over the hump. Sean

Re: [Vo]:Mass media exposure kills SPAWAR cold fusion research

2011-12-17 Thread Rich Murray
Hey, Joshua Cude, Mary Yugo, and Rich Murray are not vengeful, irrational, dogmatic opponents of CF in any of its forms -- it is simply contrary to the record of their posts on Vortex-L and other public forums to denigrate them in this unworthy and untrue way -- they are simply participating

Re: [Vo]:Mass media exposure kills SPAWAR cold fusion research

2011-12-17 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
With respect as I in no way mean to make this statement personal: What a load of self service CRAP. Are you blind as well as mentally impaired? Do you ONLY see and read what you wish to see and read to support such a BS statement? On 12/18/2011 3:06 PM, Rich Murray wrote: ...it's been 22

Re: [Vo]:Mass media exposure kills SPAWAR cold fusion research

2011-12-17 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
Tell you want Joshua Cude, Rich Murray and Mary Yugo, choke on this as you work you way through the data. There are other proofs besides CR-39 in the video. Film fogs, gamma detectors, the hot spot video, the piezoelectric spikes, etc. I think I counted thirteen different proofs that are

Re: [Vo]:Mass media exposure kills SPAWAR cold fusion research

2011-12-17 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
24 more peer reviewed LENR papers for you guys to read: http://www.globalenergycorporation.net/Publications.aspx On 12/18/2011 3:06 PM, Rich Murray wrote: Hey, Joshua Cude, Mary Yugo, and Rich Murray are not vengeful, irrational, dogmatic opponents of CF in any of its forms -- it is simply

Re: [Vo]:Acceleration Under Load

2011-12-17 Thread Harry Veeder
He will need a battery for start up. Once the scooter has reached a sufficient speed it will propel itself perpetually by self charging. I have met Thane in person and witnessed an earlier version of his regenerative acceleration device. Is he scammer? No one who has met him thinks he is a

[Vo]:INFORMAVORE's SUNDAY No. 486

2011-12-17 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Friends, Just published the issue No. 486 of my newsletter in combination with a Guest Editorial by an anti-cancer warrior. http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2011/12/informavores-sunday-no-486.html We have lost Scott and Yan in 2011 due to this criminal illness. One of the greatest