[Vo]:Oil Price.com features Brillouin CF Reactor

2012-04-24 Thread Ron Kita
Greetings All, In case that you haven t see this before: http://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/New-LENR-Machine-is-the-Best-Yet.html Respectfully, Ron Kita, Chiralex

[Vo]:More Details About Pirelli High School Cold Fusion Experiment

2012-04-24 Thread Akira Shirakawa
From e-Catworld: http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/04/more-details-about-pirelli-high-school-cold-fusion-experiment/ This is a human translation of the email sent yesterday to 22passi by the L.Pirelli CF experiment organizer eng. Ugo Abundo. I recommend reading it. Instructions and directions

RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Oil Price.com features Brillouin CF Reactor

2012-04-24 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Ron, I got no complaints with their theory - right or wrong it is, IMHO, closer to the truth than all the others. The herd is thinning and I predict we will see a shift toward the Brillouin technology even while trying to wrap it in their own proprietary theories along with a

[Vo]:Hot Fusion people try to solve their problems

2012-04-24 Thread Peter Gluck
While searching for links to my QUI CITO newsletter I came upon this: A possible solution to a critical barrier to producing fusion energy http://www.kurzweilai.net/a-possible-solution-to-a-critical-barrier-to-producing-fusion-energy It is always stimulating to see the competition trying to

Re: [Vo]:More Details About Pirelli High School Cold Fusion Experiment

2012-04-24 Thread Robert Lynn
A quick reading and first impressions: 1/ It appears then that they are using 100's of Watt input from a rectified Variac. Though actual power input is only hinted at with Variac Range of 60-240V and 0.3-9A input, (spanning 20-2160W), though later on they mention 120-160V and as little as 0.3A

Re: [Vo]:More Details About Pirelli High School Cold Fusion Experiment

2012-04-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robert Lynn robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com wrote: They are thus probably generating 100's or Watts output based on their COP=4 claim, so it should be easy to do accurate calorimetry on. As far as I know, you cannot make a glow discharge appear with 10s or hundreds of watts. The calorimetry

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Oil Price.com features Brillouin CF Reactor

2012-04-24 Thread Robert Lynn
While Brillouin seems well founded, disciplined and scientific it does appear that they have a pretty major problem in that their COP at 2.1 is too low to be commercially useful. I believe they achieved that almost a year ago if the info on their website is anything to go by, and yet in their

Re: [Vo]:More Details About Pirelli High School Cold Fusion Experiment

2012-04-24 Thread Daniel Rocha
Does that use H or D? 2012/4/24 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com Robert Lynn robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com wrote: They are thus probably generating 100's or Watts output based on their COP=4 claim, so it should be easy to do accurate calorimetry on. As far as I know, you cannot make a

Re: [Vo]:More Details About Pirelli High School Cold Fusion Experiment

2012-04-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: As far as I know, you cannot make a glow discharge appear with 10s or hundreds of watts. I meant the plasma does not form WITHOUT at least 10s or hundreds of watts. Nothing happens at low power. You have turn up power until the cathode is incandescent and then purple streams of

Re: [Vo]:More Details About Pirelli High School Cold Fusion Experiment

2012-04-24 Thread Michele Comitini
Reading the description of the experimental setup Abundo writes only of Hydrogen. The text below is very interesting besides mentioning Hydrogen gas, gives the idea that, as many guessed on vortex-l, that Rossi's catalyst is indeed iron used to split H2 in H. il mix di polveri, quando usato con

Re: [Vo]:International Conference The Atom Unexplored - May 4th, 2012

2012-04-24 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-04-19 11:21, Akira Shirakawa wrote: Website: http://www.theatomunexplored.org/ The website is now live: http://theatomunexplored.com/ Cheers, S.A.

[Vo]:Is There a Drone in Your Life?

2012-04-24 Thread Terry Blanton
My alma mater, Ga Tech, births drones! excerpt: There are at least 63 active drone sites around the U.S, federal authorities have been forced to reveal following a landmark Freedom of Information lawsuit. The unmanned planes – some of which may have been designed to kill terror suspects – are

Re: [Vo]:More Details About Pirelli High School Cold Fusion Experiment

2012-04-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: Does that use H or D? Ordinary water, that has been purified with a Milli-Q purifier. See: http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MizunoTconfirmatia.pdf They spend a couple of days cleaning the cathodes and other equipment, using a sacrifice cathode as a

Re: [Vo]:International Conference The Atom Unexplored - May 4th, 2012

2012-04-24 Thread Harry Veeder
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-04-19 11:21, Akira Shirakawa wrote: Website: http://www.theatomunexplored.org/ The website is now live: http://theatomunexplored.com/ Cheers, S.A. ...and the conference will be streamed online on

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Oil Price.com features Brillouin CF Reactor

2012-04-24 Thread Alain Sepeda
maybe I minsinterpreted their reports, but it seem that the COP~2 is for the low temperature liquid phase home boiler. they gas phase boiler, working at 400-500C seems to have an undisclosed COP... can someone correct me. Le 24 avril 2012 16:30, Robert Lynn robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com a écrit

Re: [Vo]:More Details About Pirelli High School Cold Fusion Experiment

2012-04-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
For more about the explosion, see: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MizunoTanomalouse.pdf

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Oil Price.com features Brillouin CF Reactor

2012-04-24 Thread Axil Axil
Brillouin expects the test of the new Hot Tube model at SRI will be capable of delivering steam at temperatures from 400ºC to 500ºC (750-932ºF). This means that SRI will build the high pressure hydrogen reactor. Currently, this reactor is just a concept and a hope. Such a reactor has not been

[Vo]:Can a Box Fly?

2012-04-24 Thread Terry Blanton
This one does by turning inside out: http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/nstv/2012/04/flying-object-propels-itself-by-flipping-inside-out.html?cmpid=NLC|NSNS|2012-2304-GLOBAL|flyingobjectsutm_medium=NLCutm_source=NSNSutm_content=flyingobjects http://goo.gl/p2NdK Is that an iPhone controller?

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Oil Price.com features Brillouin CF Reactor

2012-04-24 Thread David Roberson
It appears to be early in the development cycle for the dry reactor so let's hope that it progresses well. I have not seen any reference to transformation of nickel to copper as Rossi claims and I was wondering if anyone else has seen any references. Why would all of the freshly minted

RE: [Vo]:Oil Price.com features Brillouin CF Reactor

2012-04-24 Thread Jones Beene
Well, the short answer is instantaneous. The Brillo boys are using a variant of W-L theory, which to the thinking of many of us has more holes than Dunkin’ – since neutrons activate everything in the surroundings … but with a curious twist. That twist makes it fully falsifiable - and if it proves

Re: [Vo]:More Details About Pirelli High School Cold Fusion Experiment

2012-04-24 Thread David Roberson
That must have been frightening. I would like to understand what they conclude; are they suggesting that they initially had a fusion reaction followed by a multitude of different pathway fission processes? Dave -Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com To: vortex-l

Re: [Vo]:Oil Price.com features Brillouin CF Reactor

2012-04-24 Thread David Roberson
It will be interesting to see how this plays out in the long run. Maybe the 'Brillo boys' have not run their device for a long enough period to generate detectable products. If they are following this discussion perhaps one of them would respond to your pertinent question about the detection

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Oil Price.com features Brillouin CF Reactor

2012-04-24 Thread Mark Gibbs
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: What gives the Rossi type reactor its power is the secret sauce and the Rossi reaction is different from and more powerful than the Brillouin reaction. Considering that Rossi hasn't revealed how the E-Cat system works I

Re: [Vo]:Can a Box Fly?

2012-04-24 Thread mixent
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Tue, 24 Apr 2012 15:06:58 -0400: Hi, [snip] This one does by turning inside out:

Re: [Vo]:International Conference The Atom Unexplored - May 4th, 2012

2012-04-24 Thread mixent
In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Tue, 24 Apr 2012 13:03:18 -0400: Hi, [snip] I get the impression they are still 10 years behind the times. On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-04-19 11:21, Akira Shirakawa wrote: Website:

RE: [Vo]:Can a Box Fly?

2012-04-24 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
From Terry This one does by turning inside out: http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/nstv/2012/04/flying-object-propels- itself-by-flipping-inside-out.html?cmpid=NLC|NSNS|2012-2304- GLOBAL|flyingobjectsutm_medium=NLCutm_source=NSNSutm_content=flyingo bjects http://goo.gl/p2NdK Kewel! I

Re: [Vo]:More Details About Pirelli High School Cold Fusion Experiment

2012-04-24 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-04-24 14:24, Akira Shirakawa wrote: From e-Catworld: Building instructions hand translated in English: http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/04/english-translation-of-build-instructions-for-pirelli-athanor-cell/ Cheers, S.A.

Re: [Vo]:Can a Box Fly?

2012-04-24 Thread Harry Veeder
...but now I can't think outside of the box. ;) Harry On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: This one does by turning inside out:

Re: [Vo]:More Details About Pirelli High School Cold Fusion Experiment

2012-04-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Building instructions hand translated in English: http://www.e-catworld.com/**2012/04/english-translation-** of-build-instructions-for-**pirelli-athanor-cell/http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/04/english-translation-of-build-instructions-for-pirelli-athanor-cell/ Detailed instructions! Good.

RE: [Vo]:Oil Price.com features Brillouin CF Reactor

2012-04-24 Thread pagnucco
How does the initiating step differ from the electron-capture proposed in W-L papers? Hasn't someone here rebutted the physics of e-c capture? Not freshly minted? Jones Beene wrote: Well, the short answer is instantaneous. The Brillo boys are using a variant of W-L theory, which to the

Re: [Vo]:Oil Price.com features Brillouin CF Reactor

2012-04-24 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Tue, 24 Apr 2012 13:39:12 -0700: Hi, Note that enhanced electron capture is also a characteristic of Hydrino capture or Horace's theory. The difference being that with these theories the electron capture happens either concurrent with or after the proton

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Oil Price.com features Brillouin CF Reactor

2012-04-24 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 12:48 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: I have not seen any reference to transformation of nickel to copper as Rossi claims and I was wondering if anyone else has seen any references. Why would all of the freshly minted neutrons collect with protons only

Re: [Vo]:Oil Price.com features Brillouin CF Reactor

2012-04-24 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 7:18 PM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: Hasn't someone here rebutted the physics of e-c capture? The rebuttals I've seen involve the p + e- - n + v reaction that is usually understood to occur between an inner shell electron and a proton in a nucleus, or of the heavy

Re: [Vo]:Pirelli Foundation funds successful LENR Cold Fusion Project

2012-04-24 Thread Axil Axil
If this high school reaction is consistent with the Rossi Reaction; a proton based reaction, I suspect that Rhenium is the mainline transmutation product. Since potassium is the not so secret sauce in this high school reaction, it lends credence to the speculation that potassium is also the

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Oil Price.com features Brillouin CF Reactor

2012-04-24 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: But this statement from Wikipedia could lead one to wonder whether the cathode (nickel, palladium, tungsten, etc.) is the secret catalyst: I'm using cathode too broadly here -- I mean the metal substrate within which