They got nice renderings tough. Are them for sale?
2012/7/22 *** Craig Brown *** cr...@overunity.co
Maybe because there is no product that exists.
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From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, 22 July 2012 9:40 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject:
That's the problem for me personally. No matter how much I know LENR is
real, I still need to be convinced that LENR can produce the amounts of
power being claimed by Andrea Rossi and Defkalion. To date we have not had
one single properly INDEPENDENT test. We're up to our arses in renderings
and
Guys,
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mixent 1541
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Axil Axil 757
Source informed me Barry Kauler (Aussie) finishing control device. See:
http://www.youtube.com/embed/6DWnwMZxIW0
Quickly
*** Craig Brown *** cr...@overunity.co wrote:
Maybe because there is no product that exists.
A nonexistent product can be sold in the U.S. or Italy as easily as in
Sweden or Australia.
- Jed
MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
FYI, I was just using Franklin and the Royal Society as an example… not
literally.
You can use it literally. He was a member of the Society. They awarded him
the Copley Medal in 1753, and made him a Fellow in 1756, when he was still
living in
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/jul/21/offshore-wealth-global-economy-tax-havens?newsfeed=true
Wealth doesn't trickle down – it just floods offshore, new research reveals
A far-reaching new study suggests a staggering $21tn in assets has
been lost to global tax havens.
If taxed, that
At 10:42 AM 7/20/2012, Robert Lynn wrote:
The true test is how many parts remain on the bench after reassembly.
There are often parts left. No, the true test is if the thing still works.
(Many screws are redundant.)
(Yes, alternate assembly can be interesting, but pretty advanced for
a
In corporate engineering you notice that relative regression.
Data can be exchanged in seconds, designs can be simulated in days,
however the regulation has became so complex, the workflow so long,
involving so many fearful executives, so higher executives, that things get
slow, until all is
Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote:
In corporate engineering you notice that relative regression.
Data can be exchanged in seconds, designs can be simulated in days,
however the regulation has became so complex, the workflow so long,
involving so many fearful executives, so higher
...was just looking up when this rendering first came up.
I think it was around the beginning of 2012, with the old low-temperature-e-cat.
Please correct me, if I'm wrong,
Loking up e-cat at google images is actually funny.
...During the invasion of Iraq I saw a Pentagon schedule for a project to train
people in Middle Eastern languages
Well, as far as I can remember, in the early pre-attack phase there were about
7 people in the US who understood the Iraqi arab dialect.
But to UNDERSTAND, was not the agenda.
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
In those days the Society proceedings resembled this forum rather than a
modern journal. They were a catch-all discussion group for anything of
interest to Natural Philosophy (science).
Nice observation. I love the
The aerospace is an example of how today's regulations limit execution. It
can take 12 years or more to build a satellite with costs as high as $10 B.
Some have estimated that the regulations make it impossible for NASA to put
a man on the moon. The process has stretched the timelines to make
When it comes to basic science, my impression is that the New York Times is
a rather staid publication. It will generally hew to the scientific
majority opinion and avoid getting too far into reporting on scientifically
controversial topics such as LENR. To air unconventional views, it will
Jed said:
Regarding Franklin and the speed of communication, I wonder if the
Proceedings of the Royal Society for 1750s are on line?
Axil replies:
The difference between then and now is that the words streaming forth from
the “Proceedings of the Royal Society” would now be available to
Greetings Vortex,
An interesting Boeing citation NASA CR 2012- 217556 on LENR
http://coldfusionnow.org/next-generation-nasa/
About 33% down the website above
Respectfully,
Ron Kita, Chiralex
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Ron Kita chiralex.k...@gmail.com wrote:
An interesting Boeing citation NASA CR 2012- 217556 on LENR
http://coldfusionnow.org/next-generation-nasa/
About 33% down the website above
Here is a deep link to the NASA document from the Cold Fusion Now! Web site:
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
The difference between then and now is that the words streaming forth from
the “Proceedings of the Royal Society” would now be available to thousands
of the interested as each one rolled out of Franken’s articulate mouth.
That is exactly what happened in
I am interested in this part as follows:
*Technology Status:*
* *
Multiple coherent theories that explain LENR exist which use the standard
Quantum Electrodynamics Quantum Chromodynamics model. The
Widom-Larson theory
appears to have the best current understanding, but it is far from being
In reply to David Roberson's message of Wed, 18 Jul 2012 16:14:39 -0400 (EDT):
Hi,
[snip]
And of course we have been searching very hard to find a process that does not
release strong gammas and this would fit that requirement as long as we
overlook the 511 keV ones.
There are actually two
In reply to David Roberson's message of Wed, 18 Jul 2012 23:33:07 -0400 (EDT):
Hi,
[snip]
Obviously it works within stellar domains.
I may have made an error, but I once worked out that the half-life of the p-p
reaction in the Sun is on the order of billions of years. Since tunneling of p
to p
Axil's post has prompted me to search for CNT rug methods and has led me to
this paper. Does anyone have access to this paper, and can you help. Direct
Growth of Aligned Multiwalled Carbon Nanotubes on Treated Stainless Steel
Substrates
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/full/10.1021/la7012232
I
I am inclined to believe that the beta plus decay from P-P to H2 is relatively
fast since the release of .42 MeV occurs. The Wiki guys suggest that the P-P
nucleus tends to break apart most of the time back into 2 x P. See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton-proton_chain for details. It
I do not think all of the energy can be carried away by means of a neutrino
emission since the remaining nucleus must rebound to preserve momentum. This
of course would also require energy to be impressed upon that nucleus in the
form of 1/2*m*V*V. Not much, but at least a tiny bit of
Jojo, I think you are jumping to conclusions a bit quickly. I have a difficult
time believing that Rossi has the equipment in his possession that would allow
him to build a device of this complexity. Perhaps you are making great
strides in your concept, but until one is actually constructed
http://144.206.159.178/ft/145/605877/14779411.pdf
Those carpets look poorly to me and are not as beautiful and organized as
the Rice products.
You don't like the build and peel method?
Cheers: Axil
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote:
**
Axil's post has
Axil, I believe this is a similar paper but not the exact paper. I have a
feeling that the paper I am looking for may contain the key.
I run into what appears to me to be intractable problems with the Build and
Peel method:
1. The Build and Peel method seems to be more complicated and
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 3:16 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
Unfortunately AFAIK, all the energy of the p-e-p reaction is carried by the
neutrino which of course escapes, hence no net measurable energy effect. :(
Yes, indeed. For the following calculation, I'm getting exactly 1.44 MeV,
the
http://144.206.159.178/ft/145/605877/14779411.pdf
Air Force Institute of Technology
Air University
Air Education and Training Command
In Partial Fulfillment of the Requirements for the
Degree of Doctor of Philosophy
Benjamin L. Crossley, B.S.E.E., M.S.E.E.
Major, USAF
June 2011
I found this
In reply to David Roberson's message of Sun, 22 Jul 2012 21:12:36 -0400 (EDT):
Hi,
[snip]
I do not think all of the energy can be carried away by means of a neutrino
emission since the remaining nucleus must rebound to preserve momentum. This
of course would also require energy to be
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Sun, 22 Jul 2012 19:16:36 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 3:16 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
Unfortunately AFAIK, all the energy of the p-e-p reaction is carried by the
neutrino which of course escapes, hence no net measurable energy effect. :(
In reply to David Roberson's message of Sun, 22 Jul 2012 21:01:58 -0400 (EDT):
Hi,
[snip]
I am inclined to believe that the beta plus decay from P-P to H2 is relatively
fast since the release of .42 MeV occurs.
Then may I suggest that you work out the percentage of H in the solar core that
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 9:01 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
Slight misunderstanding here. The Diproton doesn't exist. It falls apart
immediately into two protons. The only time you get D is when the
conversion of
a proton to a neutron just happens to occur during the very brief instant
in
There is also a competing reaction:
He3 + p = He4 + neutrino + beta+ (or maybe e- capture) (weak force mediated
decay).
I would not expect to see He4 formed directly by the proton addition to He3
because the binding energy would tear it apart unless it is released quickly.
Every viable
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 9:33 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
I would not expect to see He4 formed directly by the proton addition to
He3 because the binding energy would tear it apart unless it is released
quickly. Every viable fusion reaction that has He4 as a final product
Relative is the operational word here Robin. I misunderstood your description
of the 2 billion years half life of He2. The decay of He2 into H2 should be
much, much quicker than that! Just an off the cuff estimate, it should be less
than a second. We can obtain a closer guess if you wish,
That is what I was referring to as not viable Eric. I like your graphic as it
demonstrates the processes clearly. You should note that He4 is almost always
released along with another massive particle as I pointed out.
I also originally thought that the He3 plus a P to yield He4 would be
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