http://physics.aps.org/articles/v5/90
It is now universally accepted that the reservoir of energy stored in the
sun’s atmospheric magnetic field is what heats the localized plasma in the
corona. In simplified terms, the field is generated in the solar interior
as a result of large-scale
A view from the physics establishment.
Martin Fleischmann:
1927–2012http://physicsworld.com/blog/2012/08/martin_fleischmann_1927-2012.html
Aug 6, 2012
*By Hamish Johnston*
In the autumn of 1989 I was doing what many physicists were also doing at
the time – I was trying to get deuterium atoms
Will cold fusion finally go mainstream after this ICCF-17? Celani has done
independent testing, right? I'm not very familiar with how science becomes
accepted mainstream, but I do not understand why it is taking so long.
From: mix...@bigpond.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re:
After watching -with some interruptions due to local conditions-
the Theory Panel at ICCF-17, my first reaction was to go to the Merriam
Webster dictionary and to search for the best antinomy of Consensus.
It is Dissensus. Perhaps reading the text will be more encouraging.
Peter
--
Dr. Peter
It's probably eddy currents that are formed by the coils in metal walls,
which in their turn create a magnetic field inside the metal cylinder(s).
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 11:49 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Mon, 13 Aug 2012 21:52:02 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
How
A follow up on his paper:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8mt4mJOTGvBeXJCNXNUdEJVME0/edit?pli=1#
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 3:43 AM, Chemical Engineer cheme...@gmail.comwrote:
I wonder if they got the Rohner brothers to recharge it?:)
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Chemical Engineer
Formally I am almost 75, however the years lived in Communism count double;
everybody having had this experience will agree.
Peter
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 11:07 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.comwrote:
Are you 93?
2012/8/14 Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com
please have empathy for
Jarold McWilliams oldja...@hotmail.com wrote:
Will cold fusion finally go mainstream after this ICCF-17?
No.
Celani has done independent testing, right?
Not sure what this means. Are you asking whether Celani has sent his device
to others to be tested? The answer is no, but I think he
I was hoping they would embrace my theory and observations but I guess it
is a little too early for that. If everyone could get on the same page
this fledgling industry can generate some serious revenue and transform the
World!
My theory explains the following observations:
Ed Storms, well
What is the new method of treatment for the wire?
The new method, although started from the old one in some key aspects, was
really revolutionary about the practical parameters of: mechanical stability
(few leakage of the best material from the surface), percentage of
material at small
I forgot one:
Embrittlement. On-going Hawking radiation within a structure will
gradually decay its integrity due to local heat effects as well as further
collapse and transmutations of local atomic structures. This has been
witnessed in Mr. Celani's wire.
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 6:02 AM,
150!
Off set by the youth-inducing effects of Russian Vodka? (Just kidding)
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 4:37 AM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote:
Formally I am almost 75, however the years lived in Communism count
double; everybody having had this experience will agree.
Peter
On Tue,
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Whoa. 130 bar light water electrolysis instead of gas phase!
Yeah, what a surprise.
T
Hello,
From Randell Mills I understood that only H can be a catalyst because the
atom has to be neutral. He+ is not neutral, so it is difficult / impossible
to collaps.
Peter van Noorden
- Original Message -
From: mix...@bigpond.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday,
Atomic hydrogen carries an ionization charge last time I checked
On Wednesday, August 15, 2012, P.J van Noorden wrote:
Hello,
From Randell Mills I understood that only H can be a catalyst because the
atom has to be neutral. He+ is not neutral, so it is difficult / impossible
to collaps.
We had no Russian Vodka (only Polish Wodka Wyborowa
good.) More important Romanian Tzuika has helped us to survive, please read
about Sue Ellen Principle and Kaltwasser Doctrine on my Blog
Peter
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Chemical Engineer cheme...@gmail.comwrote:
150!
Off set by the
And here is what my theory says about Ultra low momentum neutrons :
If you had just barely escaped the clutches of a micro(quantum)
singularity(black hole) wouldn't you be tired too?
This phenomena supports the redshifting of all radiation coming from near
the singularity
Stewart
Will do!
On Wednesday, August 15, 2012, Peter Gluck wrote:
We had no Russian Vodka (only Polish Wodka Wyborowa
good.) More important Romanian Tzuika has helped us to survive, please
read about Sue Ellen Principle and Kaltwasser Doctrine on my Blog
Peter
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 2:07 PM,
Geeze, ketchup!
T
Josephson made an error of his own when he said:
Nature through its selective reporting, and its practice of returning
papers reporting successful replications to the authors without refereeing
them.
This ignores the very crucial case of the first such-submitted paper by
Oriani. Nature _did_
Ah, no . you better recheck
From: Chemical Engineer
Atomic hydrogen carries an ionization charge last time I checked
Celani has a patent for oxidation of Ni surface :
http://www.google.com/patents?id=0iQSAgAAEBAJzoom=4dq=francesco%20celanip
g=PA1#v=onepageq=francesco%20celanif=false
_
From: Arnaud Kodeck [mailto:arnaud.kod...@lakoco.be]
Sent: mercredi 15 août 2012 12:20
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Ok i stand corrected
On Wednesday, August 15, 2012, Jones Beene wrote:
Ah, no … you better recheck
** **
*From:* Chemical Engineer
** **
Atomic hydrogen carries an ionization charge last time I checked
** **
Sure, and it was universally accepted in 1600 that the Sun revolved around
the earth.
Fundamental change in mainstream perceptions, even with the advantage of the
internet - takes a little while to set in.
In fact Robin's 'outrageous' suggestion is almost as likely as induction of
a
I can't tell when CE is serious anymore.
T
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Ah, no … you better recheck
From: Chemical Engineer
Atomic hydrogen carries an ionization charge last time I checked
OK I will be serious. I AM SERIOUS - we are birthing maintaining and
evaporating micro black holes. Not really a big deal because nature does
it all the time. I just did not realize until recently and I think they
are everywhere.
Sorry, lack of sleep. Brian Ahern on CMNS did not like my humor
Well, 'Gremlins' will do that to one's reputation, unless your name is
Spielberg...
The more egregious gullibility - in evidence by many others as well, is
falling for the most recent iteration of the Rohner/Papp shtick.
PT Barnum surely underestimated his famous birthrate figure.
On 2012-08-15 07:11, Jed Rothwell wrote:
13:48 local time.
The reaction has been fluctuating all day with amplitude about as big as
the screen shot taken at 9:21 this morning. It was not just the air
conditioning. It went briefly to 15 W but dropped back and has stated
around 14 W. It is not
In the paper, he said he is limited by the use of the kind glass of glass,
used for observation, which is fragile beginning at 275C. The next step, is
to use quartz, which can support higher temperatures.
2012/8/15 Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com
Could you also ask Celani if he's
From what I've read, Celani and al have currently made 2 wires only. One of
the wires has blown out during a test with D2.
-Original Message-
From: Akira Shirakawa [mailto:shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com]
Sent: mercredi 15 août 2012 18:16
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Celani device
On 2012-08-15 18:24, Daniel Rocha wrote:
In the paper, he said he is limited by the use of the kind glass of
glass, used for observation, which is fragile beginning at 275C. The
next step, is to use quartz, which can support higher temperatures.
If peak temperatures are an issue, it could be
I am an indistrial engineer and have no reputation in the cmns field. I do
not care one way or the other. I am connecting dots and visualizing. I do
read alot of nerdy quantum mechanics stuff and my theory makes sense at
least to me. The gremlins and chameleons are just for fun and
You know what is funny about this? This temperature behavior makes me
remember of the infamous bad drawn resistor in Rossi's patent, to heat the
reactor.
2012/8/15 Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com
If peak temperatures are an issue, it could be an idea to decrease input
power when
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 2:16 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
http://physics.aps.org/articles/v5/90
It is now universally accepted that the reservoir of energy stored in the
sun’s atmospheric magnetic field is what heats the localized plasma in the
corona. In simplified terms, the
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 6:02 AM, Chemical Engineer cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
Conductivity inversion effects in a metal wire/lattice. It is well
understood that a singularity carries charge, angular momentum and radius
like any other particle. It is also understood that when they evaporate
Note...how much work is required de-ionize H+?
Harry
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Chemical Engineer cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
Ok i stand corrected
On Wednesday, August 15, 2012, Jones Beene wrote:
Ah, no … you better recheck
From: Chemical Engineer
Atomic hydrogen carries an
Jed,
What if you make some loud noise around it or shake it?(he probably does
not want you to shake it) Does the energy output increase?...I am serious.
The singularities he created in those voids should be sensitive to any
type of external EMR or stimulation
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 12:37 PM,
No, I am not making it up and it was not a dream
A *charged black hole* is a black
holehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole that
possesses electric charge http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_charge.
Since the electromagnetic repulsion in compressing an electrically charged
mass is
No, I am not making it up:
A *charged black hole* is a black
holehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole that
possesses electric charge http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_charge.
Since the electromagnetic repulsion in compressing an electrically charged
mass is dramatically greater than the
The mass sets the radius
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Chemical Engineer cheme...@gmail.comwrote:
No, I am not making it up:
A *charged black hole* is a black
holehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole that
possesses electric charge http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_charge.
Since
It would explain why at NI-week he saw more output than at ICCF: 5000
people make more vibrations than 300.
On 08/15/2012 01:33 PM, Chemical Engineer wrote:
Jed,
What if you make some loud noise around it or shake it?(he probably
does not want you to shake it) Does the energy output
works for me
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Andre Blum andre_vor...@blums.nl wrote:
It would explain why at NI-week he saw more output than at ICCF: 5000
people make more vibrations than 300.
On 08/15/2012 01:33 PM, Chemical Engineer wrote:
Jed,
What if you make some loud noise
This statement brings up an interesting question in my mind. If we assume that
the magnetic field lines are the source of the energy that activates the solar
corona, then what do we expect to happen in the event that there are few of
these visible or just below the surface? It is apparent
Brillouin's ICCF-17 paper [1] states:
Brillouin's lattice stimulation reverses the natural decay of neutrons to
protons and Beta particles, catalyzing this endothermic step. Constraining
a proton spatially in a lattice causes the lattice energy to be highly
uncertain. With the Hamiltonian of the
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Chemical Engineer cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
Jed,
What if you make some loud noise around it or shake it?(he probably does not
want you to shake it) Does the energy output increase?...I am serious. The
singularities he created in those voids should be
I agree that you do have particles constrained thermodynamically and
spatially within the void(s) cracks of the lattice. Why a proton causes
the lattice energy to be uncertain escapes me but might be true. I can
understand how some collapsed matter would keep things uncertain since
it is
I also am not sure why a hot neutron might not be created as opposed to a
Cold Neutron from this. If there were some type of collapsed matter
triggering the event I can understand loss of momentum to all radiation
escaping due to the extra quantum gravitational pull to be overcome.
On Wed, Aug
CE,
Localizing the wave function of a proton (or an electron), i.e., making it
more narrow --- for instance,
+--+
| |
__ | |
/ \ | |
Once the energy spread of the active particles reaches the threshold needed
for electron-capture, presumably the probability of their reaching much
higher energies is minimal, i.e., they will be converted into neutrons
before that. So the resulting neutron is born cold with little extra
energy.
At 02:46 AM 8/15/2012, you wrote:
After watching -with some interruptions due to local conditions-
the Theory Panel at ICCF-17, my first reaction was to go to the Merriam
Webster dictionary and to search for the best antinomy of Consensus.
It is Dissensus. Perhaps reading the text will be more
In reply to P.J van Noorden's message of Wed, 15 Aug 2012 14:18:48 +0200:
Hi,
[snip]
Hello,
From Randell Mills I understood that only H can be a catalyst because the
atom has to be neutral. He+ is not neutral, so it is difficult / impossible
to collaps.
Peter van Noorden
Atomic H may be
At 03:38 AM 8/15/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Jarold McWilliams mailto:oldja...@hotmail.comoldja...@hotmail.com wrote:
Will cold fusion finally go mainstream after this ICCF-17?
No.
Well, in some senses, cold fusion is already mainstream. The
extreme, pseudoskeptical position is dead in the
At 04:29 PM 8/14/2012, Michael Foster wrote:
The piston rings are rubber O-rings. There's no way in hell that
the helium in the noble gas mixture will stay in the cylinder for an
appreciable length of time.
Helium is notoriously fugitive and will escape from virtuall any
container not made of
The refuel process adds noble gas instead of replacing it. This on-the-fly
refuel means that there is no buildup of reaction ash as is normal in all
other LENR devices.
Cheers:Axil
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
At 04:29 PM 8/14/2012, Michael Foster
At 05:02 AM 8/15/2012, Chemical Engineer wrote:
I was hoping they would embrace my theory and observations but I
guess it is a little too early for that.
Really, CE? Were you actually that naive?
Here is the situation. PdD cold fusion was discovered -- or
rediscovered -- over twenty years
A correct statement might be that John Rohner uses magnetic confinement to
keep the helium located axially at the center of the cylinder.
The majority of the time there is no magnetic confinement. The only reason
helium _might_ remain at the center of the cylinder is that, being of lower
There was an interesting obit for Martin Fleschmann this morning in the
Washington Post:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/cold-fusion-scientist-fleischmann-dead-at-85/2012/08/14/10c12e10-e5c7-11e1-8f62-58260e3940a0_story.html
In the comment section I mentioned the Celani
On 2012-08-16 01:34, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Overnight the output rose from 14 to 16 W. It plateaued and then rose
again this morning up to around 18 W, where it has been for a few hours.
The total reactor running time should be over 40 hours as of now, correct?
Cheers,
S.A.
*The majority of the time there is no magnetic confinement*
I was under the impression that the coils were active all the time. Did
someone tell you something different?
Cheers: Axil
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 7:32 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
A correct statement might be
Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote:
The total reactor running time should be over 40 hours as of now, correct?
44:07 at this moment.
- Jed
On 2012-08-16 01:54, Jed Rothwell wrote:
44:07 at this moment.
Ok, I was close. Thanks.
If you're about to post a picture/screenshot of the reactor dashboard
I might have a question about excess power stability. Basically, from
charts in Celani's slides, excess power was extremely unstable
Hi
Coordinate transforms based on Sagnac effect become somewhat different from
the Lorentz-transformations.
Can you imagine how I have derived these?
Primed (t', x', y', z') coordinates follows the rotation. Unprimed (t, x,
y, z) are not rotating.)
t' = t/(1-v^2/c^2)
x' = x*(1+v^2/(c^2-v^2)) ,
And another in the economist (in the middle of an 8 minute audio from
Babbage Column prefaced by a discussion on walled gardens), 3:40 on. Very
negative and critical, and probably rather embarrassing to the columnists
in a few months time.
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
A dislike for the possibility that some knowledge might be wrong. (Mostly
illusory. To use cold fusion to test existing theory, one must have a
proposed mechanism. Exiting theory does rule out some mechanisms,
I watched a video interview of Rohner. It was interesting to see his
apparatus, the single cylinder that he fires by pushing a button, and
the method of measuring the force applied by the cylinder firing. If
that force is even over the distance of motion of the cylinder, which
was shown and
*Most of all, Papp himself seemed to be the obstacle. In order to have a
commercial engine, he needed to disclose how it worked, and he was
terrified that if he disclosed it, he'd be cheated.*
Bob Rohner once asked Papp why he was not interested in commercializing the
Papp engine. Papp told him
Lou suggests:
If so, the effectiveness of the stimulus could be quite sensitive to
waveform shape and frequency.
Absolutely it would... It wouldn't surprise me for Celani's and Rossi's
cells, that increasing the resistance heater temp will increase the rate of
reaction, but at some point it will
Here's an older article I found:
http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/GodesRquantumfus.pdf
Jeff
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 9:09 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.netwrote:
Lou suggests:
If so, the effectiveness of the stimulus could be quite sensitive to
waveform shape and frequency.
In reply to pagnu...@htdconnect.com's message of Wed, 15 Aug 2012 14:54:29
-0400 (EDT):
Hi,
[snip]
Brillouin's lattice stimulation reverses the natural decay of neutrons to
protons and Beta particles, catalyzing this endothermic step. Constraining
a proton spatially in a lattice causes the
Le Aug 15, 2012 à 10:02 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net a écrit :
The more egregious gullibility - in evidence by many others as well, is
falling for the most recent iteration of the Rohner/Papp shtick.
I take it you weren't impressed with Michael McKubre's eyewitness endorsement?
Eric
MuKubre's body language was not good; I think it reveals some level of
reservations about being there.
-mark
-Original Message-
From: Eric Walker [mailto:eric.wal...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:07 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Inspiration
Le Aug 15,
Le Aug 15, 2012 à 11:15 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net a écrit :
MuKubre's body language was not good; I think it reveals some level of
reservations about being there.
-mark
Understood. He may have had reservations about endorsing what he saw, because
there might have been some
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