Re: [Vo]:Brilloun Energy Interview

2013-09-14 Thread pagnucco
Eric, Perhaps the following recent posting, and its comments is of interest - What’s the Google-Brillouin Connection? http://www.e-catworld.com/2013/09/whats-the-google-brillouin-connection/ Eric Walker wrote: On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 11:46 AM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: I'm perplexed

[Vo]:Ball Lightning Freedom of Information Act Request

2013-09-14 Thread James Bowery
http://www.yumpu.com/en/document/view/4384359/ball-lightning-study-air-force-freedom-of-information-act In particular I direct your attention to Figure 7.

Re: [Vo]:Brilloun Energy Interview

2013-09-14 Thread Alain Sepeda
Godes focus on theory make me feel cautious. anyway COP of 2 have been tested by SRI, that is the only serious claim I am aware of... I' afraid that like for BLP, the focus on theory may just slow down progress. Anyway in the past some technology get working despite bad theory... But recently it

RE: [Vo]:Brillouin Energy Interview

2013-09-14 Thread Jones Beene
From: alain.coetm...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Brillouin Energy Interview Godes focus on theory make me feel cautious. anyway COP of 2 have been tested by SRI, that is the only serious claim I am aware of... Whoa. That is NOT information which is coming from SRI. AFAIK -

Re: [Vo]:Ball Lightning Freedom of Information Act Request

2013-09-14 Thread pagnucco
James, I can't download it. Do you have to subscribed to the service? Could it be the same as the document posted in - http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg86131.html - which referenced the maser-soliton theory (p.22)? Air Force document (AFRL-PR-ED-TR-2002-0039) - Ball

RE: [Vo]:Brillouin Energy Interview

2013-09-14 Thread pagnucco
Jones, Since Brillouin is actively seeking funding and cites collaboration with SRI, wouldn't SRI be legally liable if the claims are untrue? BTW, don't forget Godes offered an open invitation to inspect his lab and measurements earlier. That may not be possible now due to trade secret

Re: [Vo]:Ball Lightning Freedom of Information Act Request

2013-09-14 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 1:45 PM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: James, I can't download it. Same.

Re: [Vo]:Brillouin Energy Interview

2013-09-14 Thread Alain Sepeda
it seems yes. I cannot find the report. big organization like SRI typically don't confirm such sensible reports, but at least they moan if their name is abused, but today I cannot find sri/brillouin report. only ICCF17 presentation by brillouin. does anyone here know where it is, if published?

Re: [Vo]:Ball Lightning Freedom of Information Act Request

2013-09-14 Thread James Bowery
Yes, this is this same document: http://www.foia.af.mil/shared/media/document/AFD-091008-049.pdf And yes, that is the figure 7 I cited. On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 12:45 PM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: James, I can't download it. Do you have to subscribed to the service? Could it be the

Re: [Vo]:Neutron Bursts in Lab Lightning

2013-09-14 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: http://physics.aps.org/synopsis-for/10.1103/PhysRevLett.111.115003 Neutron Bursts in Lab Lightning [... snip ... ] We here at vortex know that LENR is an electromagnetic based reaction. There have been complaints here and

RE: [Vo]:Brillouin Energy Interview

2013-09-14 Thread Jones Beene
Lou, Well - that's the rub... Brillouin is actively seeking more funding, despite getting millions already - and they desperately desire to present the appearance of having shown independent gain. And to be clear, their relationship with SRI is not exactly a collaboration. SRI does not do this

Re: [Vo]:Neutron Bursts in Lab Lightning

2013-09-14 Thread mixent
In reply to H Veeder's message of Sat, 14 Sep 2013 00:19:44 -0400: Hi, [snip] the wiki page on lightning says the temperature of lightning (about 50 000 K) is too low for existing theory to explain the production of x-rays. Temperature is an average. During the initial phase of a lightning

Re: [Vo]:Neutron Bursts in Lab Lightning

2013-09-14 Thread mixent
In reply to H Veeder's message of Sat, 14 Sep 2013 00:19:44 -0400: Hi, BTW here are a few potential neutron producing reactions:- 14N+15N = 28Si + n + 16.386 MeV 16O+18O = 33S + n + 12.996 MeV 14N+18O = 31P + n + 18.451 MeV 16O+17O = 32S + n + 12.399 MeV 15N comprises 0.365% of natural N. 17O

Re: [Vo]:Neutron Bursts in Lab Lightning

2013-09-14 Thread Axil Axil
What is happening in lightning both natural and artificial has been produced in the Proton-21 experiments for years now. The gamma and neutron emissions from Proton 21 point to the occurrence of the primary LENR reaction. The secondary LENR reaction involving Bose-Einstein condensation does not

Re: [Vo]:Neutron Bursts in Lab Lightning

2013-09-14 Thread Axil Axil
*…more* * * * * *Figure 7 in the reference* * * *http://www.foia.af.mil/shared/media/document/AFD-091008-049.pdf* * * *This cavity is produced by a magnetic monopole (Micro ball lightning or if you prefer, a vortex current plasmoid)generated by electric discharge. It is the same vortex

Re: [Vo]:Brillouin Energy Interview

2013-09-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: AFAIK – SRI has never reported seeing gain in the Brillouin testing. AFAIK too. I have not heard anything. If they had something to report, I suppose they would have at ICCF18. I do not think Brillouin would want to hide that news. - Jed

[Vo]:Weird Web-Tower Thing

2013-09-14 Thread H Veeder
WTF Is This Weird Web-Tower Thing? We Asked Around. No One Knows Something in the Peruvian Amazon is making weird, intricate structures that resemble white picket fences surrounding an Isengard-like spire. No one has any idea who the mysterious craftsbug (fungus? spider?) is, or what the

Re: [Vo]:Neutron Bursts in Lab Lightning

2013-09-14 Thread ChemE Stewart
Axil, Axil, Thanks, that is a good paper. I am in the quantum dark/vacuum energy camp and I think we have strings of it decaying in our jet streams. I think the Sun is curling the energy up and sending it our way in the solar wind. These strings ionize the troposphere, charging it up as well