Re: [Vo]:Huizenga dies

2014-01-31 Thread Alain Sepeda
yes, he is not the problem but the symptom, imagine that his logic is still used against cold fusion. this logic is exactly the opposite of what we pretend to teach to students. the same guys who bash cold fusion criticize pseudo science which use the same arguments... pathetic 2014-01-30

Re: [Vo]:Understanding BLP: Chapter 4

2014-01-31 Thread a.ashfield
I spoke to BLP yesterday. They said they were working on the video of the demo of Jan 28th. and expected it to be published on their site next week. If the anomalous energy is as high as claimed it should be possible to demonstrate it even with a few pulses. I suppose we will see next week.

Re: [Vo]:History of Cherokee

2014-01-31 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
More international coverage: http://it.ibtimes.com/articles/61953/20140129/fusione-fredda-bassa-energia-rossi-ecat-lenr.htm http://sg.hu/cikkek/102926/folytatodnak-a-hidegfuzios-kiserletek

Re: [Vo]:Another breakthrough rejected at first

2014-01-31 Thread Jed Rothwell
NHK's 7 o'clock news opened with a long interview with Dr. Obokata. It was full of high praise, yet dreadfully sexist. It is hard to believe they could be so obnoxious in the 21st century. They were astounded that she likes to wear nice clothes and that she is just an ordinary girl. She said that

[Vo]:Faster than speeding Bull__it

2014-01-31 Thread Jones Beene
Well its Friday, vorticians, and you need a smile for TGIF - despite whatever bad weather you may face today. Just be glad that you do not have to run through Georgia slush until this time tomorrow. Maybe you knew this. I did not. But according to AR, he excelled in sports at a young age and was

[Vo]:Higgs and LENR

2014-01-31 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Just saw this: http://ecatsuomi.wordpress.com/2014/01/30/arto-lauri-i-will-take-on-how-the-e-cat-works/ pix http://ecatsuomi.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/arto_lauri_proposal1.png I think Arto is very close if not exactly on target with this theory for the ecat.. IMHO he defines the fractional

Re: [Vo]:Higgs and LENR

2014-01-31 Thread Edmund Storms
Fran, do you realize how strange this explanation sounds? The H has to climb over a Coulomb barrier having a charge of 28. We know how hard getting over a change of 1 is, so how is this barrier overcome so easily? Second, each Ni nucleus in the sea of Ni would have to experience the role

Re: [Vo]:Faster than speeding Bull__it

2014-01-31 Thread ChemE Stewart
Hey Guys, I was working from home yesterday in Atlanta (my truck was still on the side of the road on a downhill grade with ice) and I got my 11 year year old to help me prove that Hurricane Sandy bent the universe, at least a little bit...

Re: [Vo]:Higgs and LENR

2014-01-31 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Yes, Ed it sounds strange but my position has always been based on a caveat to COE that says random motion of gas can never be exploited.. IMHO these gas atoms are translated via the Ni geometry and will normally return to ground state unexploited as their local geometry changes with random

Re: [Vo]:Higgs and LENR

2014-01-31 Thread Bob Higgins
First of all, the diagram is preposterous on the surface. He claims 1 MJ in a beta reaction. Since one J = 6E12 MeV, the 1 MJ would be 6E18 MeV of energy in the beta - preposterous. But, lets presume it is a typo and what he meant to say was 1 MeV instead of 1 MJ in the beta. Of course, beta

Re: [Vo]:Higgs and LENR

2014-01-31 Thread Axil Axil
*Fran, I think you might want to look into negative energy production.* *In a previous post titled squeezed light. I have explained that the NAE produces squeezed light based on the up and down shifting of light frequencies seen in the photons constrained in an optical cavity.* *Squeezed light

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Higgs and LENR

2014-01-31 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Also if each Ni nucleus in the sea of Ni would have to experience the role of the so called catalyst it would be as part of casimir group not individually - and as the tapestry changes wrt a moving gas atom it will experience changes in this field - dynamic casimir effect. I am not even sure

Re: [Vo]:Higgs and LENR

2014-01-31 Thread Axil Axil
reference: http://antapex.org/it_15.pdf http://www.earthtech.org/publications/davis_STAIF_conference_1.pdf On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: *Fran, I think you might want to look into negative energy production.* *In a previous post titled squeezed

Re: [Vo]:Higgs and LENR

2014-01-31 Thread Edmund Storms
But Fran, why introduce concepts have have very little support in conventional science and that create logical inconsistency and conflict with what is actually observed? The LENR phenomenon follows all the rules we have accepted in science. Why introduce new ideas that have no proof and

[Vo]:Sven Kullander dies

2014-01-31 Thread Jed Rothwell
Prof. emeritus Sven Kullander of Uppsala University died on January 28, 2014 at age 78. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sven_Kullander_(physicist) He was one of the people who tested Rossi's device.

Re: [Vo]:Another breakthrough rejected at first

2014-01-31 Thread Axil Axil
Lise Meitner, (7 November 1878 - 27 October 1968) was an Austrian, later Swedish, physicist who worked on radioactivity and nuclear physics. Meitner discovered nuclear fission of uranium, an achievement for which her colleague Otto Hahn was awarded the Nobel Prize. Meitner is often mentioned as

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Higgs and LENR

2014-01-31 Thread David Roberson
I have a question regarding the Casimir effect that someone might be able to assist me in answering. There is discussion of how this effect is able to squeeze the hydrogen atom into one of the fractional states and I wonder why this same force does not push apart the atoms or whatever else may

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Higgs and LENR

2014-01-31 Thread Edmund Storms
Dave, I personally believe the Casimir does not exist. Its effects are logically inconsistent with what is observed, as you note as one of many examples. I believe the force attributed to Casimir is poorly understood chemical interaction. Physics keeps it alive only because it fits a

Re: [Vo]:Faster than speeding Bull__it

2014-01-31 Thread Alan Fletcher
From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 8:25:46 AM Whoa. 24 hour run ?? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24-hour_run Doesn't have to be continuous, but the guy who runs furthest in 24 hours wins.

[Vo]:General Fusion Founder to Speak at TED Conference

2014-01-31 Thread Mark Gibbs
January 31, 2014 General Fusion Founder to Speak at TED Conference Chief Scientist to highlight progress on much-anticipated fusion energy VANCOUVER, BRITISH COLUMBIA--(Marketwired - Jan. 31, 2014) - When TED, the world's primary idea exchange, moves to its new home in Vancouver this year, the

Re: [Vo]:General Fusion Founder to Speak at TED Conference

2014-01-31 Thread Edmund Storms
This claim suffers from the same limitations that haunt laser fusion and magnetic bubble fusion (ITER). Insufficient tritium can made by the fusion reactor so that tritium must come from another source, which adds greatly to the cost. In addition, the process generates significant

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Higgs and LENR

2014-01-31 Thread Axil Axil
The vacuum is a spin net liquid in which subatomic particles of all varieties fleetingly pop into being and then are destroyed in a very short time. Think of these particles as a pair of counter rotating energy vortexes with the vortex pair connected by a thin channel. The vacuum is filled by

Re: [Vo]:General Fusion Founder to Speak at TED Conference

2014-01-31 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
I don't get it. Why whinge like that? I think it's great they are trying. Let them take their best shot. Better than investing billions of dollars in SnapChat. On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote: This claim suffers from the same limitations that

Re: [Vo]:General Fusion Founder to Speak at TED Conference

2014-01-31 Thread Edmund Storms
Blaze, they tried for 70 years and have spent tens of billion of dollars. We are not even close to a working generator. At what point do we say enough - please try something else. Why not take a look at cold fusion for a change? Instead, they keep exploring different variations of hot

Re: [Vo]:General Fusion Founder to Speak at TED Conference

2014-01-31 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
Yes, it's a disgrace to see the lack of investment in LENR. On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 12:46 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote: Blaze, they tried for 70 years and have spent tens of billion of dollars. We are not even close to a working generator. At what point do we say enough -

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Higgs and LENR

2014-01-31 Thread ChemE Stewart
That is a good description. Now let's say there is a vacuum component in our atmosphere along with the Higgs field. If you gradually add energy to it 24/7 thru megawatts of pulsed microwave doppler EMF, would this field not discharge that energy to the Earth at some point, possibly increasing

Re: [Vo]:General Fusion Founder to Speak at TED Conference

2014-01-31 Thread James Bowery
What's even more disgraceful is that a founder of the Tokamak program came out in support of prize awards for achievement of objective criteria: http://www.oocities.org/jim_bowery/BussardsLetter.html That legislation called only for $100M per milestone. Imagine if the $70B that has been sunk

Re: [Vo]:General Fusion Founder to Speak at TED Conference

2014-01-31 Thread Mark Gibbs
You could level the same charge of trying for years and spending billions of dollars against the search for a cure for cancer. Given that progress in this field could be described as moderate at best would you also say enough? [m] On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 12:46 PM, Edmund Storms

Re: [Vo]:General Fusion Founder to Speak at TED Conference

2014-01-31 Thread James Bowery
Has anyone even _tried_ to come up with objective criteria milestones for cancer research? Its not like you can just sit back and think these things up off the top of your head. I came up with the criteria for the fusion prizes by going around to all of the proponents of alternative fusion

Re: [Vo]:General Fusion Founder to Speak at TED Conference

2014-01-31 Thread Edmund Storms
Yes indeed, we can find many examples of the same disfunction operating. The difference is, cancer can be cured. Hot fusion can not be made practical. Cancer suffers from the same factors that cause LENR to be rejected and hot fusion to be supported. As long as cancer remains uncured, a

Re: [Vo]:General Fusion Founder to Speak at TED Conference

2014-01-31 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mark Gibbs mgi...@gibbs.com wrote: You could level the same charge of trying for years and spending billions of dollars against the search for a cure for cancer. Given that progress in this field could be described as moderate at best would you also say enough? Yes, I would reform and

Re: [Vo]:General Fusion Founder to Speak at TED Conference

2014-01-31 Thread Axil Axil
The General fusion design is close to sonofusion. They setup a shock wave in liquid lead to compress some hydrogen (D and T) in the center of the liquid lead sphere. They should use a heavy iconic liquid and cavatate it to produce the shock wave. We know that this works to produce fusion; but

[Vo]:some news on the BLP web page

2014-01-31 Thread Marcus Haber
I just stumbled upon a new entry on the whats new part of the BLP homepage. They will have a Presentation by Dr. Randell Mills at the twenty-first annual Groundhog Day Investment Forum, hosted by Emerald Asset Management. on february the 6th. Does anyone know anything about this event? I

[Vo]:Need suggestions on plastic detection

2014-01-31 Thread fznidarsic
I am working with my friend Howard Walker. He is in the junk plastic business. The plastic bottles are worth 12 cents a pound in bulk. If separated into 1,2,3,4 and 5 the plastic is worth 24 cents a pound. I found that #1 the clear coke bottle plastic if opaque to mid infrared. I blocks a

Re: [Vo]:Need suggestions on plastic detection

2014-01-31 Thread Axil Axil
http://www.waste-management-world.com/articles/print/volume-9/issue-4/features/waste-sorting-a-look-at-the-separation-and-sorting-techniques-in-todayrsquos-european-market.html On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 4:50 PM, fznidar...@aol.com wrote: I am working with my friend Howard Walker. He is in the

Re: [Vo]:NASA Bushnell quote on 5-30 THz stimulation for LENR

2014-01-31 Thread Kevin O'Malley
How do we make it stronger? Vibrate a Bose condensate. In my language, The Constants of the Motion Tend Toward the Electromagnetic in a Bose condensate that is Vibrated at a Dimensional Frequency of 1.094 megahertz meters. ***Frank, on another thread

RE: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Atlanta frozen again

2014-01-31 Thread Sunil Shah
Eric Walker said: Here is another video of Russian drivers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2oQ6VbVIco These images are something else. I can't tell whether the drivers in Russia are absolutely terrible, or whether this is the situation anywhere, and the drivers in Russia just happen

Re: [Vo]:Need suggestions on plastic detection

2014-01-31 Thread fznidarsic
Thank you Axil. We only want to do plastic bottles. There is a company that does this in the mid IR but I believe crushed up dirty bottles may confuse it. The ratio to mid IR to blue light is really profound with the #1 soda bottles and the #2 milk bottles. I was surprised how well those

Re: [Vo]:General Fusion Founder to Speak at TED Conference

2014-01-31 Thread Alan Fletcher
Maybe someone could re-target a suitably-tuned LENR system as an online Tritium-generator and get some of those hot-fusion funds. Of course, it would need an expensive cooling system to get rid of the excess heat. Just kidding, of course.

Re: [Vo]:General Fusion Founder to Speak at TED Conference

2014-01-31 Thread Edmund Storms
Actually Alan, this is a good idea. Tom Claytor has been slowly mastering production of tritium using cold fusion to the point where this might be a practical source. But as you point out, the excess energy would be a problem. :-) Ed Storms On Jan 31, 2014, at 3:40 PM, Alan Fletcher wrote:

Re: [Vo]:energy driven superconductivity and IR coherence for LENR

2014-01-31 Thread Kevin O'Malley
I actually have been thinking about this for couple of days and the Luttinger Liquid CONCEPT rings a bell, although I probably never read the original report. I probably read about it here: *Nanotubes break superconducting record*http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1578879/posts *PhysicsWeb

Fwd: [Vo]:Need suggestions on plastic detection

2014-01-31 Thread fznidarsic
I don't have any poloriod. If you do, please look at the plastic transmission through poloroid let me know what happens. How do the plastics react to poloroid light? Frank Znidarsic

Re: [Vo]:energy driven superconductivity and IR coherence for LENR

2014-01-31 Thread Axil Axil
Why do you think that the Ni/H reactor designs include the complete resurfacing of the 5 micron nickel micro-particles with nanowires? On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: I actually have been thinking about this for couple of days and the Luttinger

Re: [Vo]:energy driven superconductivity and IR coherence for LENR

2014-01-31 Thread Kevin O'Malley
My conjecture would be due to the skin effect. If you can get a superconducting effect on the outer skin, Electrical Fields might push the H1 monoatomic atoms further into the substrate. The farther into the substrate that the H1 Gas is adsorbed, the more likely the Anomalous Heat Effect will

RE: [Vo]:some news on the BLP web page

2014-01-31 Thread Jones Beene
From: Marcus Haber I just stumbled upon a new entry on the what's new part of the BLP homepage…. They will have a Presentation by Dr. Randell Mills at the twenty-first annual Groundhog Day http://www.teamemerald.com/groundhog/ Investment Forum, hosted by Emerald Asset Management. on

RE: [Vo]:energy driven superconductivity and IR coherence for LENR

2014-01-31 Thread Jones Beene
From: Kevin O'Malley My conjecture would be due to the skin effect. If you can get a superconducting effect on the outer skin, Electrical Fields might push the H1 monoatomic atoms further into the substrate. I'm not even sure you need a full superconducting effect. Containment

Re: [Vo]:General Fusion Founder to Speak at TED Conference

2014-01-31 Thread Terry Blanton
EXCLUSIVE: A cure for ALL cancers is on the way as scientists make major breakthrough MILLIONS of cancer -sufferers have been given fresh hope of a cure after ground-breaking research. By: Giles Sheldrick Published: Thu, January 16, 2014 The breakthrough came in a 16-year study of the only

Re: [Vo]:energy driven superconductivity and IR coherence for LENR

2014-01-31 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Wouldn't it be lovely to know for sure if CNT are indeed part of the E-Cat secret? ***By CNT I think you mean CarbonNanoTubes. I doubt they are integral to Rossi's secret. Rossi didn't have the background. Focardi said that his major contribution was separating H2 gas into monoatomic H1 gas

[Vo]:[Vo] BLP New Mills paper, with replication reported

2014-01-31 Thread AlanG
http://www.blacklightpower.com/wp-content/uploads/papers/ContHOH.pdf http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=vortex-l@eskimo.comq=subject:%22RE%3A+%5BVo%5D%3Asome+news+on+the+BLP+web+page%22

[Vo]:OFF TOPIC Snarky let me google that for you site

2014-01-31 Thread Jed Rothwell
Snarky, but a good response to skeptics. Try this link: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=site:lenr-canr.org tritium los alamos I like the way it says, Was that so hard? at the end. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:[Vo] BLP New Mills paper, with replication reported

2014-01-31 Thread Jed Rothwell
Corrected link: http://www.blacklightpower.com/wp-content/uploads/papers/ContHOH.pdf

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Snarky let me google that for you site

2014-01-31 Thread Jed Rothwell
Oops. Try it with plus signs: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=site:lenr-canr.org+tritium+los+alamos Or: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cold+fusion+tritium+los+alamos Brings up some interesting old refs from the New York Times. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:[Vo] BLP New Mills paper, with replication reported

2014-01-31 Thread James Bowery
Hoh (disambiguation) From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (Redirected from HOH (disambiguation)http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=HOH_(disambiguation)redirect=no ) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HOH_(disambiguation)#mw-navigationhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HOH_(disambiguation)#p-search

Re: [Vo]:energy driven superconductivity and IR coherence for LENR

2014-01-31 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: Physicists in Japan have shown that entirely end-bonded multi-walled carbon nanotubes can superconduct at temperatures as high as 12 K, which is 30 times greater than for single-walled carbon nanotubes. It's always

Re: [Vo]:[Vo] BLP New Mills paper, with replication reported

2014-01-31 Thread Axil Axil
The alternative explanation for the EUV radiation profile of the Mills plasma system is photon cavity compression and expansion of EMF from ambient source inside the system. The input ambient sources include both infrared radiation from heat and gamma radiation from nuclear reactions. All

Re: [Vo]:Another article about the impact of automation on employment

2014-01-31 Thread H Veeder
On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote: Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Notably, F. Hayek, one of the greatest advocates of free market economics, argued that everyone should receive a basic income or (what he called a minimum income) regardless of

Re: [Vo]:energy driven superconductivity and IR coherence for LENR

2014-01-31 Thread Kevin O'Malley
So maybe it will be known as the Vibrating 1 Dimensional Luttinger Liquid BEC theory, the V1DLLBEC. On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: In the end, I think a vibrating 1Dimensional BEC (or 1DLL) along with a combination of theories will finally prove