Re: [Vo]:The Connection Between Inertial Forces and the Vector Potential

2014-02-12 Thread H Veeder
On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 7:46 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: http://arxiv.org/pdf/physics/0611167.pdf I draw your attention, in particular to the equation: *p* = µ*v* + q*A* This is old and accepted physics. However, the q*A* term is addition to Newton's 2nd law, is it not?

[Vo]:Nanoscale Heat Engine Beyond the Carnot Limit

2014-02-12 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Yet another perspective for the same anomalous environment? http://prl.aps.org/abstract/PRL/v112/i3/e030602 The researchers focus on an individual ion in a squeezed state unbalancing noise along 2 axis. Isn't this what nano geometry accomplishes at a system level for bulk gas in what we often

Re: [Vo]:Atlanta is in a tizzy

2014-02-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
You can watch power outages creep up on Atlanta in real time: http://outagemap.georgiapower.com/external/default.html How 21st century! I am not sure if this is an advantage or a disadvantage. People are overreacting, cleaning out grocery stores:

RE: [Vo]:Nanoscale Heat Engine Beyond the Carnot Limit

2014-02-12 Thread Jones Beene
This is an interesting and potentially important article, but to divulge a bit - nano is not required to exceed Carnot. Probably helps though. In fact, almost 50 years ago, working for NASA on a project which was patented and then discontinued (go figure) . Eugene Laumann exceeded the Carnot

Re: [Vo]:Atlanta is in a tizzy

2014-02-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
The Georgia Power outage map is interesting. It shows the number of customers affected increased from 77,132 at 9:45 to 97,450 at 10:15. There are now 940 outages. Individual outages are not being cleared very quickly. One at Timberland drive has been listed since this morning. It is affecting

Re: [Vo]:Atlanta is in a tizzy

2014-02-12 Thread ChemE Stewart
Power still on in North Roswell but branches are starting to fall off pine trees in my back yard, not a good sign On Wednesday, February 12, 2014, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: The Georgia Power outage map is interesting. It shows the number of customers affected increased from

Re: [Vo]:Nanoscale Heat Engine Beyond the Carnot Limit

2014-02-12 Thread David Roberson
The suggestion that they had exceeded Carnot likely prevented most of the physicists from accepting the data. After observing their reaction to LENR, it is not surprising to find that effects that operate outside of the current theories are completely ignored. At least you can operate that

Re: [Vo]:Atlanta is in a tizzy

2014-02-12 Thread David Roberson
Stay warm Jed and others around that region. At least we have just plain old fashioned snow in our forcast, although a lot of it. Dave -Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Feb 12, 2014 10:45 am Subject: Re:

Re: [Vo]:Nanoscale Heat Engine Beyond the Carnot Limit

2014-02-12 Thread Axil Axil
As a consequence of the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, nano cavities and EMF squeezing go together. When the location of particles is tightly confined, its momentum gets very large. This goes for both electrons and photons confined in a nano-sized optical cavity (AKA NAE). The energy and mass

Re: [Vo]:Atlanta is in a tizzy

2014-02-12 Thread Axil Axil
One bottleneck in power line restoration is the lack of tree surgeons to remove the widow makers that overhang the downed power lines. Line crews like to see the tree removed before they tackle the repair of the power line. On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Jed Rothwell

Re: [Vo]:Nanoscale Heat Engine Beyond the Carnot Limit

2014-02-12 Thread Axil Axil
The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle will not be consistent with and not support the laws of thermodynamics. On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: As a consequence of the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, nano cavities and EMF squeezing go together. When the

Re: [Vo]:Atlanta is in a tizzy

2014-02-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: One bottleneck in power line restoration is the lack of tree surgeons to remove the widow makers that overhang the downed power lines. Georgia Power brought in hundreds of out-of-state tree removal crews, as well as power company repair crews. So that

[Vo]:Vertical Turbines, packed tight, boost power

2014-02-12 Thread H Veeder
-- VERTICAL TURBINES, PACKED TIGHT, BOOST POWER http://www.earthtechling.com/2011/07/vertical-turbines-packed-tight-boost-power/ -- The caveat is that high wind speed is still a problem for all egg beaters. Harry

[Vo]:Hot fusion OU milestone reported

2014-02-12 Thread Brad Lowe
Claims of fusion by laser with more output energy than input energy for the first time. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/the-lasers-fuelling-hopes-of-unlimited-clean-nuclear-energy-9124237.html http://physics.aps.org/articles/v7/13

Re: [Vo]:Hot fusion OU milestone reported

2014-02-12 Thread Daniel Rocha
That's a lot of caveats. The energy used to power up and fire is hundreds of thosands greater. Probably many more caveats. 2014-02-12 16:54 GMT-02:00 Brad Lowe ecatbuil...@gmail.com: Claims of fusion by laser with more output energy than input energy for the first time.

Re: [Vo]:Hot fusion OU milestone reported

2014-02-12 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
for less than a billionth of a second On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.comwrote: That's a lot of caveats. The energy used to power up and fire is hundreds of thosands greater. Probably many more caveats. 2014-02-12 16:54 GMT-02:00 Brad Lowe

Re: [Vo]:Atlanta is in a tizzy

2014-02-12 Thread Edmund Storms
Jed, you probably know that to fix a line the power to the entire line has to be turned off. That would turn off power to many more people than initially. Ed Storms Sent from my iPad On Feb 12, 2014, at 8:44 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: The Georgia Power outage map is

Re: [Vo]:Hot fusion OU milestone reported

2014-02-12 Thread a.ashfield
Blaze Spinnaker, for less than a billionth of a second And people complain about calorimetry in LENR

Re: [Vo]:Atlanta is in a tizzy

2014-02-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Jed, you probably know that to fix a line the power to the entire line has to be turned off. That would turn off power to many more people than initially. Yes. You can watch the area affected grow and then shrink as they fix the problem. Select zoom

Re: [Vo]:Nanoscale Heat Engine Beyond the Carnot Limit

2014-02-12 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Wed, 12 Feb 2014 11:48:38 -0500: Hi, [snip] As a consequence of the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, nano cavities and EMF squeezing go together. When the location of particles is tightly confined, its momentum gets very large. This goes for both electrons and

Re: [Vo]:Nanoscale Heat Engine Beyond the Carnot Limit

2014-02-12 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Wed, 12 Feb 2014 07:02:46 -0800: Hi, [snip] This is an interesting and potentially important article, but to divulge a bit - nano is not required to exceed Carnot. Probably helps though. In fact, almost 50 years ago, working for NASA on a project which was

Re: [Vo]:Hot fusion OU milestone reported

2014-02-12 Thread David Roberson
As a skeptic I demand that another independent group of scientists replicate the results. How do we know that the input power required to run the lasers is accurately measured? The list of possible errors is a mile long for an experiment this complicated. Why do the physicists accept this

Re: [Vo]:Nanoscale Heat Engine Beyond the Carnot Limit

2014-02-12 Thread mixent
In reply to mix...@bigpond.com's message of Thu, 13 Feb 2014 07:46:54 +1100: Hi, [snip] For an electron, you get 0.152 eV. This represents an increase in the mass of the electron by 0.3%. Oops. That was overestimated by a factor of 4. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk

Re: [Vo]:a note from Dr. Stoyan Sargoytchev

2014-02-12 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sun, 2 Feb 2014 09:39:57 -0800: Hi, [snip] The most elegant answer begins with the obvious assertion that there are no gammas ab initio, which means that no reaction of the kind which your theory proposes can be valid because gammas are expected. Actually

RE: [Vo]:a note from Dr. Stoyan Sargoytchev

2014-02-12 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com The most elegant answer begins with the obvious assertion that there are no gammas ab initio, which means that no reaction of the kind which your theory proposes can be valid because gammas are expected. Actually not only would I not expect

[Vo]:Re: Energy and momentum / was RAR

2014-02-12 Thread Bob Cook
I agree—the closed system did not change its angular Momentum. In a losed system AM is conserved—this applies to QM systems. From: David Roberson Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 7:59 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Energy and momentum / was RAR I do not see where we differ in

Re: [Vo]:Nanoscale Heat Engine Beyond the Carnot Limit

2014-02-12 Thread Axil Axil
To my best knowledge, that is not how it works. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_dot A quantum dot is like an atom with an unlimited number of electron orbitals. As new electrons enter the dot, the electron takes on the next available higher energy level. More energy is required to push

Re: [Vo]:a note from Dr. Stoyan Sargoytchev

2014-02-12 Thread H Veeder
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: -Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com The most elegant answer begins with the obvious assertion that there are no gammas ab initio, which means that no reaction of the kind which your theory proposes

[Vo]:Happy Lincoln - Darwin day

2014-02-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
Abraham Lincoln and Charles Darwin were both born on February 12, 1809. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Happy Lincoln - Darwin day

2014-02-12 Thread James Bowery
Blows against slavery of the body and of the mind. Unfortunately enslaving entire States, terminating the Laboratory of the States, was another legacy, perhaps not of Lincoln per se, but certainly of the Federal government that arose in the aftermath of his prematurely terminated life. Darwin

Re: [Vo]:Fusion by Pseudo-Particles

2014-02-12 Thread Axil Axil
I stand corrected. Dr. Yeong E. has proposed a double deuteron pair as the boson component of his Bose Einstein condensate theory for many years. The ion member of the hydrogen dipole will be a deuteron so a cluster fusion reaction consistent with Kim would include those neutrons in that

Re: [Vo]:Hot fusion OU milestone reported

2014-02-12 Thread Eric Walker
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 12:52 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: As a skeptic I demand that another independent group of scientists replicate the results. How do we know that the input power required to run the lasers is accurately measured? The list of possible errors is a mile

[Vo]:Karpen's pile

2014-02-12 Thread Axil Axil
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Karpen's_Pile_--_A_Battery_That_Has_Produced_Energy_Continuously_Since_1950s Karpen's pile This device has all the earmarks of a nanoplasmonic system almost identical in concept if not structure to Piantelli's reactor. A highly pitted platinum surface is

Re: [Vo]:Nanoscale Heat Engine Beyond the Carnot Limit

2014-02-12 Thread H Veeder
Is the expression beyond the carnot limit the genteel way of stating a violation of the 2nd law of thermodynamics? Harry On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote: Yet another perspective for the same anomalous environment?

Re: [Vo]:Karpen's pile

2014-02-12 Thread Axil Axil
More info http://www.rexresearch.com/karpen/karpen.htm On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:03 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Karpen's_Pile_--_A_Battery_That_Has_Produced_Energy_Continuously_Since_1950s Karpen's pile This device has all the earmarks

Re: [Vo]:Hot fusion OU milestone reported

2014-02-12 Thread Mark Gibbs
Correct me if I'm wrong but they didn't really achieve OU because the target only got 10% of the incident energy so the actual energy gain was in a subsystem rather than in the whole system. [m] On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at

Re: [Vo]:Hot fusion OU milestone reported

2014-02-12 Thread David Roberson
I like your humor Eric. Dave -Original Message- From: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Feb 12, 2014 9:44 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hot fusion OU milestone reported On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 12:52 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: As

Re: [Vo]:Hot fusion OU milestone reported

2014-02-12 Thread Axil Axil
Eric get a kick out of the unintentional errors that I make and he tries to duplicate the dead pan humor intentionally. On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:57 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: I like your humor Eric. Dave -Original Message- From: Eric Walker

Re: [Vo]:Karpen's pile

2014-02-12 Thread pagnucco
Axil, An interesting find. I have never heard of it before. Why not ask Peter Gluck his opinion on it? I believe he is in Romania, and may have seen the device. -- Lou Pagnucco Axil wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Karpen's pile

2014-02-12 Thread Axil Axil
If I were and experimentalist to save some money on precious material, I would try to duplicate this by using Nickel and hydrofluoric acid (dielectric constant - 100), One electrode would be highly pitted as in Celani's wire. All the copper must be complexly removed however. The other would be

Re: [Vo]:Asked Answered

2014-02-12 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Cold Fusion is a fraud, a lie. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3122281/posts?page=22 To: *Kevmo* Cold fusion is a lie. It doesn't exist anywhere in the universe aside from the fevered imaginations of the scammers and those duped into believing it. 14

Re: [Vo]:Karpen's pile

2014-02-12 Thread John Berry
The creation of charge? The creation of electrons? Any FE device that does this is wasting energy by manifesting matter. On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

[Vo]:the role of p-values in science

2014-02-12 Thread Eric Walker
There's an interesting discussion of the role of the statistical p-value in science in a recent article published online at Nature: For all the P value's apparent precision, Fisher intended it to be just one part of a fluid, non-numerical process that blended data and background knowledge to

Re: [Vo]:the role of p-values in science

2014-02-12 Thread Eric Walker
I wrote: There's an interesting discussion of the role of the statistical p-value in science in a recent article published online at Nature ... Here is a the link to the article: http://www.nature.com/news/scientific-method-statistical-errors-1.14700 Eric

Re: [Vo]:Asked Answered

2014-02-12 Thread Kevin O'Malley
- What causes the anomalous excess heat? An hypothesis.http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3122363/posts - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3122363/posts - Wed 12 Feb 2014 10:12:04 PM PST · 26 of 26http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3122363/posts?page=26#26 Kevmo

Re: [Vo]:Karpen's pile

2014-02-12 Thread Axil Axil
The same charge creation process holds for the Papp engine. Charge increase was used to feed the capacitive spark discharge of the opposing cylinder. Smart engineering can use this seemingly wasteful feature to full advantage just as Joe Papp did. On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 11:49 PM, John Berry

Re: [Vo]:Karpen's pile

2014-02-12 Thread John Berry
However efficient you are at utilizing electrons, it comes no where close to the energy of annihilating them. But maybe the electrons were already existed and simply are being collected/transferred. Patrick Flanagan patented an ionizer that consists of 2 circular plates feed AC, the rate at