Re: Replications. Formerly [Vo]:LENR a gateway into the theory of everything.

2014-03-10 Thread Bob Cook
Harry So be it. Bob - Original Message - From: H Veeder To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 10:53 PM Subject: Re: Replications. Formerly [Vo]:LENR a gateway into the theory of everything. Bob, Morpheus says to Neo in the movie The Matrix (1999):

RE: [Vo]:FYI: Extraordinary momentum and spin discovered in evanescent light waves

2014-03-10 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
However, on the basis of an old calculation by Belinfante [Physica 6 887 (1939)], it can be shown that the spin may be regarded as an angular momentum generated by a *circulating flow* of energy in the wave field of the electron. This is at least somewhat understandable if one considers the

Re: Replications. Formerly [Vo]:LENR a gateway into the theory of everything.

2014-03-10 Thread Bob Cook
Harry--Wikipedia regarding The Matrix says the following: The red pill and its opposite, the blue pill, are pop culture symbols representing the choice between embracing the sometimes painful truth of reality (red pill) and the blissful ignorance of illusion (blue pill). The terms,

Re: Replications. Formerly [Vo]:LENR a gateway into the theory of everything.

2014-03-10 Thread Alain Sepeda
Some study that approach. the problem is laws are designed so crowdfunding is treated like charity, or at best as securities. LENR is not a charity, it is a revolution, the next industrial revolution. It deserve crowd-equities this is what plain honest capitalism should be, and what it is not

Re: Replications. Formerly [Vo]:LENR a gateway into the theory of everything.

2014-03-10 Thread H Veeder
Bob, The red pill brings you closer to the truth by taking you deeper into the rabbit hole. The journey into Wonderland isn't mere escapism. Like Mark said, you should watch the movie. Harry On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 2:17 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote: Harry--Wikipedia regarding

Re: [Vo]:Newly published US20140034116A1 patent application regarding LENR

2014-03-10 Thread Teslaalset
The most remarkable takeaway of US20140034116A1 is that the inventors point out that using ionized 1/1 (light) Hydrogen, only two Nickel isotopes are suitable: Ni62 and Ni64. This is particulary interesting since they published this in their provisional patent application back in August 2012.

Re: [Vo]:unknown mechanism generates voltage in the powder cracks

2014-03-10 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Harry, Good point and it aligns with dynamic casimir effect and possibly a form of crack propagation which is normally in a metals but may apply to the exotic hydrogen states we are discussing. It could also fit into Mills description of self catalyzing hydrino states and Peng

Re: Replications. Formerly [Vo]:LENR a gateway into the theory of everything.

2014-03-10 Thread Terry Blanton
Actually, neither pill exists. Both are part of the construct.

Re: Replications. Formerly [Vo]:LENR a gateway into the theory of everything.

2014-03-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RothwellJtallyofcol.pdf This file is corrupted. At least for me... Try downloading it again, please. Press reload the page. Your browser may be looking at the old copy. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:LENR puzzles NASA

2014-03-10 Thread David Roberson
This brings back my discussion of magnetic fields being a critical factor in the formation of planets around stars. It only seems reasonable to assume a force that is many order of magnitude larger than gravity must play an important part. This may be evidence of that speculation. Dave

RE: [Vo]:FYI: Extraordinary momentum and spin discovered in evanescent light waves

2014-03-10 Thread Jones Beene
Bob Cook wrote: It seems an answer to my original question for this blog--2 months ago--about spin coupling is finally coming out. I hope Ed takes note and decides to address the basic parameter, spin, in his theory for LENR. Spin coupling is

Re: [Vo]:FYI: Extraordinary momentum and spin discovered in evanescent light waves

2014-03-10 Thread Bob Cook
Mark-- One of the issues is what is the extent of Coherency--I have been calling it coupling the material systems we know. Are crystals coherent?, are nano particles coherent?, are molecules coherent?, are BEC coherent?, are semiconductor resistors coherent? What in your experience

Re: Replications. Formerly [Vo]:LENR a gateway into the theory of everything.

2014-03-10 Thread Bob Cook
Mark-- I will. Bob - Original Message - From: MarkI-ZeroPoint To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 11:13 PM Subject: RE: Replications. Formerly [Vo]:LENR a gateway into the theory of everything. Bob, you need to watch The Matrix! -mark From:

[Vo]:ARPA-E Energy Summit Winner

2014-03-10 Thread Jones Beene
http://www.tm-lift.com/ This is a heat-pump powered by natural gas instead of electricity. Apparently, it is so efficient that it will save nearly half the gas which the grid plant would use in getting the same amount of air conditioning into your home in summer, and perhaps an even greater %

[Vo]:Time Dilation and Free-electron Laser

2014-03-10 Thread David Roberson
After thinking about the Free-electron x-ray laser device a bit longer, I realize that it appears to demonstrate time dilation as well as Lorentz contraction rather neatly. In my earlier post I pointed out the excellent reference in Wikipedia about the Lorentz contraction being directly

RE: [Vo]:Newly published US20140034116A1 patent application regarding LENR

2014-03-10 Thread Jones Beene
From: Teslaalset The most remarkable takeaway of US20140034116A1 is that the inventors point out that using ionized 1/1 (light) Hydrogen, only two Nickel isotopes are suitable: Ni62 and Ni64. This is particulary interesting since they published

Re: [Vo]:Newly published US20140034116A1 patent application regarding LENR

2014-03-10 Thread Bob Cook
Jones etal-- Ni-62 and Ni64 are not a big constituents of natural Ni--Ni-58 is the largest at about 68.3%. However, they both provide about 4.5% of the natural Ni isotopes. Both Ni-62 and Ni-64 would transmute to stable Cu -63 and Cu-65 upon absorption of a proton. There may be no gammas

RE: [Vo]:Newly published US20140034116A1 patent application regarding LENR

2014-03-10 Thread Jones Beene
Original Message- From: Bob Cook Ni-62 and Ni64 are not a big constituents of natural Ni--Ni-58 is the largest at about 68.3%. However, they both provide about 4.5% of the natural Ni isotopes. Both Ni-62 and Ni-64 would transmute to stable Cu -63 and Cu-65 upon absorption of a

Re: [Vo]:FYI: Extraordinary momentum and spin discovered in evanescent light waves

2014-03-10 Thread MarkI-Zeropoint
Bob: Of the several possibilites which you presented, only a BEC would meet my definition of coherent. Any assemblage of 2 or more atoms above a few degrees K are very likely NOT coherent; or if coherency happens to occur in a localized region of condensed matter, it won't last long enough

Re: Replications. Formerly [Vo]:LENR a gateway into the theory of everything.

2014-03-10 Thread MarkI-Zeropoint
Please do and tell fellow Vorts what you thought of it... -m On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Bob Cook wrote: Mark-- I will. Bob - Original Message - From: MarkI-ZeroPoint javascript:parent.wgMail.openComposeWindow('zeropo...@charter.net')

[Vo]:Audio interview with Clarke about cold fusion

2014-03-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
I found an old audio recording of Arthur C. Clarke from 1998. I transferred it from a tape player to the computer with a poor-quality player, so the recording is noisy. Fans of Clarke can download it here: http://lenr-canr.org/Collections/ClarkeInterview.mp3 Christy sent me a transcript:

Re: Replications. Formerly [Vo]:LENR a gateway into the theory of everything.

2014-03-10 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Cravens Letts reviewed 167 papers and came up with 4 criteria that correlate excess heat. http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/NagelDJproceeding.pdf Page 71 The Enabling Criteria of Electrochemical Heat: Beyond Reasonable Doubt Dennis Cravens 1 and Dennis Letts 2 1 Amridge University Box 1317

Re: [Vo]:Newly published US20140034116A1 patent application regarding LENR

2014-03-10 Thread Bob Cook
Jones-- As I pointed out the Cu-63 and Cu-65 is not radioactive--its stable. Cu-59 is radioactive as I pointed out. However it decays to a non-gamma emitting Ni-59 isotope with a significant half-life for beta+ decay. Spin energy fractionation occurs in small units and has many potential

Re: Replications. Formerly [Vo]:LENR a gateway into the theory of everything.

2014-03-10 Thread Lennart Thornros
I should probably avoid comment in this tread as the discussion includes more physics science than I even come close to understand. However, I have some experience from funding new businesses. I think I can provide somewhat of another viewpoint because of that. It goes for everything in life it

Re: Replications. Formerly [Vo]:LENR a gateway into the theory of everything.

2014-03-10 Thread Edmund Storms
Kevin, if you read my book (The science of low energy nuclear reaction), you will find the data set on which this paper was based. Ed Storms On Mar 10, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: Cravens Letts reviewed 167 papers and came up with 4 criteria that correlate excess heat.

Re: Replications. Formerly [Vo]:LENR a gateway into the theory of everything.

2014-03-10 Thread Edmund Storms
This is good advice, Lennart. But let me carry your analogy further. In this case, the beautiful girl has the reputation for being a slut. So, not only must she sell her beauty but also has to show she can be trusted. How is this done when the people who spread the false rumor are still at

Re: [Vo]:FYI: Extraordinary momentum and spin discovered in evanescent light waves

2014-03-10 Thread Axil Axil
http://www.phy-astr.gsu.edu/stockman/data/Li_Stockman_PRL_2013_Electric_Spaser.pdf Electric Spaser in the Extreme Quantum Limit The normal state of the SPP is BEC because of their low mass. In Bose-Einstein statistics the quantum concentration Nq (particles per volume) is proportional to the

Re: [Vo]:FYI: Extraordinary momentum and spin discovered in evanescent light waves

2014-03-10 Thread Bob Cook
Axil -- The equationyou copied is jumbled. Can you produce it more clearly? However, I think I understand that a few particles means a BEC can occur at room temperature--is that correct? Yoeng Kim must agree since his LENR theory does not require near 0 degrees K. Of course its hard to

Re: [Vo]:unknown mechanism generates voltage in the powder cracks

2014-03-10 Thread mixent
In reply to ChemE Stewart's message of Sat, 8 Mar 2014 17:48:13 -0500: Hi, That one is easy, it's flour power :) [snip] Normally a charge imbalance arises when different materials are rubbed together. (eg. amber and fur) Since all the grains are made from same the material a charge imbalance

Re: [Vo]:FYI: Extraordinary momentum and spin discovered in evanescent light waves

2014-03-10 Thread Bob Cook
Mark-- You noted the following: Subject: RE: [Vo]:FYI: Extraordinary momentum and spin discovered in evanescent light waves “ However, on the basis of an old calculation by Belinfante [Physica 6 887 (1939)], it can be shown that the spin may be regarded as an angular momentum generated by

Re: Replications. Formerly [Vo]:LENR a gateway into the theory of everything.

2014-03-10 Thread Lennart Thornros
Ed, Maybe you turned my analogy a little but I am prepared to go along with that. Yes, I can see it is uphill. However, that makes it absolutely necessary to adhere to all five steps. First you have to reapply the lipstick. Remove the vulgar and tell it all to a more subtle lipstick. Then you need

[Vo]:Wikipedia French Cold fusion (fusion froide) is slightly edited...

2014-03-10 Thread Alain Sepeda
I just noticed some slight change in wikipedia Fusion froide (french cold fusion)... link to ICCF, reformulating, piantelli... regularly changing ... I refuse to read the text logs because I would react and be banned... but maybe something is happening... whoever want to check...

Re: [Vo]:Time Dilation and Free-electron Laser

2014-03-10 Thread John Berry
The Doppler effect is not handwaving, it is a very real effect that would notably increase the frequency of the light emitted from the electrons hugely (enough to account for the evidence). Additionally absolute time dilation from the electron moving through the aether at near light speed could

Re: [Vo]:Time Dilation and Free-electron Laser

2014-03-10 Thread David Roberson
John, this device is real. Read the article carefully and you will understand how the frequency is accurately explained by Lorentz contraction. Do you consider that a coincidence? I fail to understand why you are so reluctant to accept that this device works as described when using Lorentz

Re: [Vo]:unknown mechanism generates voltage in the powder cracks

2014-03-10 Thread Nigel Dyer
I think there is a link. I think that one of the simplest interpretations of Jerry Pollacks work is that in certain circumstances water holds lightly to its protons, and will loose them leaving a region of negatively charged (but not alkalie) water. This can happen with water adsorbed on a

[Vo]:Basic FP Electrolysis

2014-03-10 Thread James Bowery
Most everyone has done the basic electrolysis experiment of running current through water with some salt or a little acid in it. As we know from the sordid history of cold fusion, the electrolysis required to achieve 80% loading into PD of D is not so trivial. Aside from the obvious need to run

Re: [Vo]:Time Dilation and Free-electron Laser

2014-03-10 Thread John Berry
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 12:32 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: John, this device is real. No doubt, so is the Doppler effect, which *will* be present. Read the article carefully and you will understand how the frequency is accurately explained by Lorentz contraction. Do you

Re: [Vo]:Time Dilation and Free-electron Laser

2014-03-10 Thread ChemE Stewart
Everything around high-powered pulsed Doppler radars in Florida is aging and decaying more quickly. Around Melbourne, FL you have over 10,000,000 pulsed watts of overlapping Doppler radiation with hundreds of thousands of dead fish, fish with tumors, algae blooms, hundreds of dead dolphins and

Re: [Vo]:Time Dilation and Free-electron Laser

2014-03-10 Thread David Roberson
John, like before, you are dead set against special relativity and even a simple example such as this does not convince you. There is no possible way to get any simpler and more obvious than the example of the Free-electron laser so it is going to be non productive to continue this discussion.

RE: [Vo]:unknown mechanism generates voltage in the powder cracks

2014-03-10 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Hi Nigel, Perhaps they've made progress in the past 20 years! I did my MS in the late 80s. I am familiar with Pollack's work, but didn't they determine that the energy for this Exclusion Zone (EZ) next to an interface was due to in-coming photons (i.e., light)??? Not sure if it was IR or

RE: [Vo]:Time Dilation and Free-electron Laser

2014-03-10 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
I have not had time to follow the discussion re: time dilation vs a Doppler effect, but if anyone wants to explore the topic further they might try visiting this site: http://home.comcast.net/~adring/ They publish a peer-reviewed journal, Galilean Electrodynamics, which is dedicated to

Re: [Vo]:Time Dilation and Free-electron Laser

2014-03-10 Thread John Berry
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 2:25 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: John, like before, you are dead set against special relativity and even a simple example such as this does not convince you. Correct. It would convince me at least to a point if I could check over everything, or as i

Re: [Vo]:Newly published US20140034116A1 patent application regarding LENR

2014-03-10 Thread Eric Walker
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote: Ni-62 and Ni64 are not a big constituents of natural Ni--Ni-58 is the largest at about 68.3%. However, they both provide about 4.5% of the natural Ni isotopes. Both Ni-62 and Ni-64 would transmute to stable Cu -63 and

Re: [Vo]:Newly published US20140034116A1 patent application regarding LENR

2014-03-10 Thread Bob Cook
Eric-- A key question is how easy it is to enrich Ni. This should be easy to answer. Note in my comment I suggested that particular organic Ni compounds may be selectively sensitive to tuned laser based on the isotope they contain and hence selective dissociation or other chemical reaction

Re: [Vo]:Newly published US20140034116A1 patent application regarding LENR

2014-03-10 Thread Eric Walker
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 9:13 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote: A key question is how easy it is to enrich Ni. This should be easy to answer. Note in my comment I suggested that particular organic Ni compounds may be selectively sensitive to tuned laser based on the isotope they

Re: [Vo]:Newly published US20140034116A1 patent application regarding LENR

2014-03-10 Thread Bob Cook
Eric-- Thanks for the lead. I will do a little digging myself. There appear to be many Ni complex organic compounds that should have bond resonances to C atoms that depend upon the mass of the Ni isotope. Tuned electric or magnetic excitation should be able to selectively break the bond