[Vo]:Branes -- LENR

2014-03-18 Thread Rob Dingemans
Hi, Just a thought related to the string theory and the Big Bang inflation theory. Could it be that Branes are the macro version, while LENR is the micro version of the same principle? Kind regards, Rob

Re: [Vo]:Branes -- LENR

2014-03-18 Thread ChemE Stewart
That would be my guess. The vacuum is full of branes of all varying energy levels. They are all decaying at varying rates and form and are connected by strings. Hydrogen appears pop in/pop out and string together I think we live on a Brane (6-D core of the Earth) and are immersed in this

Re: [Vo]:OT what's up with conspiracy theories these days?

2014-03-18 Thread a.ashfield
Jones, Where did you get the idea one warhead went missing? See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_United_States_Air_Force_nuclear_weapons_incident

Re: [Vo]:Branes -- LENR

2014-03-18 Thread Foks0904 .
While I appreciate the creativity of the suggestion, I think linking any physical phenomenon to string/brain/M-theory is something of a fools errand. Anything that requires the anthropic principal to justify its existence is no longer a viable scientific theory. It has basically declared a end to

RE: [Vo]:HHO welding is LENR

2014-03-18 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Axil, Langmuir was aware of this anomaly and advised not to pursue it when he developed atomic welding with tungsten electrodes.. some will insist it is the energy of recombination but if so then welding would not be a constant flow and one would have to continually stop, build up a reservoir

Re: [Vo]:Branes -- LENR

2014-03-18 Thread ChemE Stewart
I have lots of optical evidence from my research of strings of vacuum in our atmosphere. I have lots of anomalous doppler readings triggered by vacuum in our atmosphere Our low pressure weather disturbances, such as super cells and mesovotex's are just decaying branes of vacuum, broken off from

Re: [Vo]:HHO welding is LENR

2014-03-18 Thread Axil Axil
In HHO welding, there is no electric current employed. HHO welding is just the burning of hydrogen in oxygen. But how does a hydrogen combustion process that produces only 2,660 °C in heat vaporize tungsten at (5930 °C, 10706 °F). This does not add up unless there is LENR involved. On Tue,

RE: [Vo]:OT what's up with conspiracy theories these days?

2014-03-18 Thread Jones Beene
From: a.ashfield Where did you get the idea one warhead went missing? See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_United_States_Air_Force_nuclear_weapons_in cident First, this is not exactly mine - or anyone else's idea since in fact, it was initially

Re: [Vo]:HHO welding is LENR

2014-03-18 Thread Lennart Thornros
Axil, I admit total ignorance of the HHO theory. I have heard about people saying they can reduce gas consumption in autos. It has never taken any commercial format. I have a few questions though: 1. If HHO produce this high temperature, then it sounds to me to be logical that it saves gas in an

Re: [Vo]:HHO welding is LENR

2014-03-18 Thread Edmund Storms
Confusion seems to exist between energy and temperature. A very high temperature can be produced using very little energy if the energy is highly concentrated. This is done regularly using lasers and electric arcs. In the case of HHO, the chemical energy released when H2O forms is applied

Re: [Vo]:HHO welding is LENR

2014-03-18 Thread AlanG
I don't think the tungsten is vaporizing - at least there's no evidence that supports that contention. In the example video, the surface of the rod appears to be melted, so the flame must be at least 3500 C, higher than produced by H2+O combustion. There's enough velocity in the flame to blow

Re: [Vo]:HHO welding is LENR

2014-03-18 Thread James Bowery
The confusion between incommensurable quantities is excusable in someone who doesn't know the first thing about physics but not even in a blue collar technician that works on household utilities like electrical wiring or heating and air conditioning. On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 11:29 AM, Edmund

Re: [Vo]:HHO welding is LENR

2014-03-18 Thread Lennart Thornros
Ok James I admit my ignorance, although I am not a blue collar worker in the AC field. I also admit my English is less than perfect. I do not know what you mean with incommensurable quantities. Are you just supporting Ed Storms statements about quantities and temperature? I did understand that, it

Re: [Vo]:HHO welding is LENR

2014-03-18 Thread Axil Axil
What causes HHO explosive/implosive reaction is the same mechanism the makes the Papp engine function. In fact, Papp's first patent for his engine was a closed HHO engine, where water never exited the piston. What is commonly understood today as a HHO engine is an open engine design, where water

Re: [Vo]:HHO welding is LENR

2014-03-18 Thread James Bowery
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_commensurability#Commensurability On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.comwrote: Ok James I admit my ignorance, although I am not a blue collar worker in the AC field. I also admit my English is less than perfect. I do not know

Re: [Vo]:OT what's up with conspiracy theories these days?

2014-03-18 Thread Terry Blanton
Background on the Minot incident: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=vaaid=7158

Re: [Vo]:OT what's up with conspiracy theories these days?

2014-03-18 Thread Terry Blanton
The conspiracy then: http://projectcamelot.org/jack_carter.html 2014-03-18 13:54 GMT-04:00 Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com: Background on the Minot incident: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=vaaid=7158

Re: [Vo]:HHO welding is LENR

2014-03-18 Thread Lennart Thornros
Thanks James, I can use the thesaurus if the word was hard. I could not understand the way you used it. I think the quantities are comparable. They can be measured in any pressure r volume dimension as far as I am concerned. What I did not understand was what you are comparing. I did not mean to

Re: [Vo]:HHO welding is LENR

2014-03-18 Thread David Roberson
Is it possible that some of the tungsten is burning instead of melting? A cutting torch actually burns the steel by adding excess oxygen to the region. Dave -Original Message- From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Mar 18, 2014 11:40 am

Re: [Vo]:HHO welding is LENR

2014-03-18 Thread Edmund Storms
That is right, Dave. Tungsten oxide is volatile and will vaporize at much lower temperatures than pure tungsten, which makes tungsten look as if it is valorizing. In addition, the quoted max. temperature for H2-O2 combustion is for the temperature of the flame. This is not the maximum

Re: [Vo]:HHO welding is LENR

2014-03-18 Thread James Bowery
Lennart, my comment wasn't directed at you but at Axil's question: Do I need to spell this out any further? After giving temperature numbers as though they represented energy or power. I tend to dismiss Axil's asserted-as-fact speculations posing as theory, if for no other reason than their tone

Re: [Vo]:HHO welding is LENR

2014-03-18 Thread Lennart Thornros
James Ok I am not so sensitive so it is OK- but felt uncalled for as I preempted my weakness:) Hard to follow if you do not say to whom. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 6140 Horseshoe Bar Road Suite G, Loomis CA 95650

Re: [Vo]:HHO welding is LENR

2014-03-18 Thread James Bowery
Well there have been other recent examples from very authoritative sources: https://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg88835.html So I felt a general comment was in order. On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.comwrote: James Ok I am not so sensitive so

Re: [Vo]:HHO welding is LENR

2014-03-18 Thread Brad Lowe
Here is an ORNL report from 1952 about heat released by HHO through a catalytic converter: http://web.ornl.gov/info/reports/1952/3445603529607.pdf Title is: The Reaction Between Hydrogen and Oxygen by Catalysis and the Thermal Reaction - Brad On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 2:50 PM, James Bowery

Re: [Vo]:OT what's up with conspiracy theories these days?

2014-03-18 Thread Terry Blanton
The missing cruise missile had a W80 warhead with a dialable yield of 5 to 150 kt. You can do a lot of damage to NYC with that yield. But detonate it at 40,000 ft over the NE corridor and you fry every semiconductor from DC to NYC. Suddenly only China and Russia are Superpowers. You would need

Re: [Vo]:OT what's up with conspiracy theories these days?

2014-03-18 Thread Terry Blanton
April surprise? http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin98.htm On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: The missing cruise missile had a W80 warhead with a dialable yield of 5 to 150 kt. You can do a lot of damage to NYC with that yield. But detonate it