Re: [Vo]:Mizuno slides coming

2014-03-29 Thread Daniel Rocha
For D, certainly He4 is detected, correlated with heat. For H, it's a harder issue, so we cannot know if its is fusion which is happening, that is, with correlation with heat. 2014-03-29 2:47 GMT-03:00 Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com: You said Certainly, the only proof for fusion is the

RE: [Vo]:The DD-BOP reaction in the context of Mizuno's new breakthrough

2014-03-29 Thread Jones Beene
Part I The recent Mizuno (Yoshino) presentation at the MIT colloquium and the surprising implication of finding about twice the quantity of hydrogen appearing as ash from deuterium reactions (as the starting gas) after a month long run - has been the inspiration for the following early stage

RE: [Vo]:The DD-BOP reaction in the context of Mizuno's new breakthrough

2014-03-29 Thread Jones Beene
Part II When a free neutron decays to a proton, substantial energy is released as well as a neutrino - which carries away about 40% of the net energy undetected. That is the main problem to overcome in framing a putative exothermic deuterium reaction in place of the endotherm which would normally

[Vo]:2014 CF/LANR Colloquium all files page

2014-03-29 Thread Ruby
We are assembling a page for all 2014 CF/LANR Colloquium at MIT audio, video, .pdfs, and links to affiliated institutions: http://coldfusionnow.org/interviews/2014-cflanr-colloquium-at-mit-full-coverage/ New material will be added here as they are available throughout the week (or two!)

Re: [Vo]:The DD-BOP reaction in the context of Mizuno's new breakthrough

2014-03-29 Thread Axil Axil
I favor the idea that a strong magnetic field can catalyze pion virtual particles from the energy borrowed from the vacuum that can disrupt the nucleus of the atom along the path of that magnetic field. If a plus pion transmutes a neutron into a proton using borrowed energy from the vacuum (135

Re: [Vo]:The DD-BOP reaction in the context of Mizuno's new breakthrough

2014-03-29 Thread Axil Axil
Come to think of it, this pion reaction is a mind bender. This Mizuno reaction is the exact opposite of the proton-proton chain reaction. That is the fusion reaction by which stars convert hydrogen to helium. If the proton-proton chain reaction produces positive energy, then its opposite fission

Re: [Vo]:The DD-BOP reaction in the context of Mizuno's new breakthrough

2014-03-29 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: They say that the data never lies; but wow, does LENR really get all or most of its energy from the vacuum. I have always thought so. But, then, I have been a Puthoff fan-boy for ages. :-)

RE: [Vo]:The DD-BOP reaction in the context of Mizuno's new breakthrough

2014-03-29 Thread Jones Beene
Yes - even if plausible way exists in QM for converting deuterium to hydrogen with gain, that gain obviously does not derive from the mass of the deuterium, per se. This leaves these main possibilities, and a few others 1) vacuum energy (ZPE) 2) nickel mass via spin coupling 3) Mills version

Re: [Vo]:The DD-BOP reaction in the context of Mizuno's new breakthrough

2014-03-29 Thread Axil Axil
Entwined as in a tree with vacuum energy (ZPE) as the tap root, and the others (if real) as emergent pathways of energy flow. On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Yes - even if plausible way exists in QM for converting deuterium to hydrogen with gain, that

Re: [Vo]:Mizuno slides coming

2014-03-29 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 8:06 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: There would be a net decrease in gas quantity under any scenario in which D2 reacts with nickel – never wound an increase be expected, even small - much less a ~2:1 increase in gas quantity. Amazing. I think the lead that

Re: [Vo]:Mizuno slides coming

2014-03-29 Thread Eric Walker
I wrote: - The p+Ni lead appears to align with the thoughts of the experimenters themselves, who included graphs of the neutron capture cross sections for nickel in their slides. I wrote p+Ni, but I meant d+Ni. Eric

RE: [Vo]:The DD-BOP reaction in the context of Mizuno's new breakthrough

2014-03-29 Thread Jones Beene
One other exotic possibility comes to mind, thinking about Ni-64. This nickel isotope appears to be unique in the periodic table, being the highest ratio of excess neutrons in a stable isotope, compared to the most common isotope of that element (36/30 = 12%) in nature. (hydrogen-deuterium does

RE: [Vo]:Mizuno slides coming

2014-03-29 Thread Jones Beene
From: Eric Walker The p+Ni lead appears to align with the thoughts of the experimenters themselves, who included graphs of the neutron capture cross sections for nickel in their slides. I wrote p+Ni, but I meant d+Ni. The d+Ni

Re: [Vo]:Mizuno slides coming

2014-03-29 Thread Eric Walker
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: I wrote p+Ni, but I meant d+Ni. The d+Ni reaction would have to be the Oppenheimer-Phillips version, to be statistically relevant. Here is a blip on Passell’s O-P theroy. I have not found it as a separate

[Vo]:Modern technology for every time in ones life.

2014-03-29 Thread fznidarsic
I attended to a funeral two weeks ago. He was a veteran of WW2. The bugle player was excellent. He played taps. Many cried. I went to another funeral today. Taps were played again,the bugle player sneezed and, the bugle kept on playing. I asked about it, They are now using digital

Re: [Vo]:The DD-BOP reaction in the context of Mizuno's new breakthrough

2014-03-29 Thread David Roberson
Just wanted to add one minor thought to the discussion. Could it be that the breaking up of the D into pieces might actually take energy from the system that is then added back by a relatively minor amount of more or less standard H reaction with nickel? The implications of such a process are

Re: [Vo]:Mizuno slides coming

2014-03-29 Thread Eric Walker
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I just discovered that you wrote concerning the OP angle back in 2010 (and Abd Lomax replied): https://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com That second link above, where Jones and Abd Lomax discuss the

[Vo]:1-minute video The Frequency of Humanity

2014-03-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
A video about what happens in one minute. Mostly off topic but the amount of garbage produced and CO2 released are awesome. http://www.theatlantic.com/video/index/359066/the-frequency-of-humanity/

Re: [Vo]:Mizuno slides coming

2014-03-29 Thread Eric Walker
I wrote: The claim I will egregiously ignore for the moment as either being artifact or something that is different from what we currently understand it to be is the idea that there were twice as many gas molecules after the experiment had run than at the time it had started. I think I found

Re: [Vo]:Mizuno slides coming

2014-03-29 Thread Axil Axil
The decay of the neutron must be instansious because no indications of neutron absorption into a deuterium nucleus to produce tritium. There is no indication that any atom larger in mass than deuterium had been generated. You must assume instansious completion of the reaction exclusive of any

Re: [Vo]:Mizuno slides coming

2014-03-29 Thread Eric Walker
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 9:11 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: There is no indication that any atom larger in mass than deuterium had been generated. See the yellow arrow for species of mass 3 on pp. 38, 39, 41 and 42 of the slides (according to Chrome):